Boy Scouts Possibly Filing for Bankruptcy

[Rascal full]

no. they may also be homosexual (or heterosexual) but i don't believe the act of having or wanting to have sex with a prepubescent child is either homosexual or heterosexual.

you think a man that has no sexual interest in a sexually developed female but wants to have sex with a small girl is heterosexual?

I agree that pedos should be in a category of their own, they are not gay or straight they are sick in the head and have no room in any society. Not fair to label them as homosexual as homos have no attraction to kids and do no harm other than sometimes to themselves. Pedos are another ball game completely, they can't be cured either, even castration doesn't work.

[pellius]

lol pelius my little elfing friend.

you are a single, unemployed, broke polynesian wanna be white man(elf) from hawaii that does voluntary work just to get out of the house, and you want to talk to me about "western culture" lol . you live in a broken down shack on some sleepy holiday island. i run a business and live in a nice house in an affluent region of london. and btw i happen to be a baptised christian. i just personally want no association with the weirdos and deviants (like yourself) that have hijacked the christian religion.


back on topic. anyone that really believes they can put forward "orthodoxy today" as an authoritative source in a discussion re paedophilia has to be an idiot of towering proportions.

as previously said. if you believe sex with a 2 year old girl is a heterosexual act you're one sick and or confused fk.

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Once again you present the same non-argument: "Believe what I believe or you are a ... blah, blah, blah, whatever personal insult comes to mind.

That is not a rational nor logical argument but you seem to lack the intellectual heft to realize that so you keep making it.

And once again you display such a clueless lack of credibility. Lets just go down the list of your accusations against me.

Being one of the more open members on this board, I have posted pictures of me on the job. Posted pictures of where I live -- right near the ocean. Recently posted pictures of me inside my house with family and friends. I have been married and have raised, and currently raising, two generations of children.

You make claims that you will never prove. Running a business tells me nothing. So you pick cans and plastic bottles out of a rubbish can. OK, so you are your own boss and make your own hours. Congratulations. Now post pics of your house and your affluent neighborhood.

You are not a Christian but an avowed anti-Semite.

You deny the evidence and facts that homosexuals are disproportionately involved in pedophilia and defend Allah, an avowed pedophile, yet accuse me of trying to "protect" gays or pedos.

No one here gives you any credibility at all but you will continue with your same tired line of non-reasoning: "Those that don't believe and support me are ...
blah, blah, blah."

 

[Conker]

yawn on pedolust. you are one of the most boring posters on the board. i've posted plenty pics myself and i posted a video showing the inside of my house and recent renovations a few months ago in vince G's thread.

i don't want to rag on you because you are obviously a misfit and one of life's losers and too easy a target but please don't talk to me about "western culture" when you're a down and out that lives in a hut on the beach.

and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.

now run along skinny elf boy...go help your "god" plan another scam or something

[pellius]

yawn on pedolust. you are one of the most boring posters on the board. i've posted plenty pics myself and i posted a video showing the inside of my house and recent renovations a few months ago in vince G's thread.

i don't want to rag on you because you are obviously a misfit and one of life's losers and too easy a target but please don't talk to me about "western culture" when you're a down and out that lives in a hut on the beach.

and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.

now run along skinny elf boy...go help your "god" plan another scam or something

That's all you have left. Still unable to make a coherent argument and just name call and making demonstrably false accusations that have already been proven wrong? I had to endure pages of your antisemitic rants and support of the destruction Israel.

You're no Christian and defend a religion and belief system whose founder was an avowed pedophile and bisexual.

[Dave D]

no. they may also be homosexual (or heterosexual) but i don't believe the act of having or wanting to have sex with a prepubescent child is either homosexual or heterosexual.

you think a man that has no sexual interest in a sexually developed female but wants to have sex with a small girl is heterosexual?

I understand your point.

Society has defined heterosexual (opposite sex attraction) and homosexuality (same sex attraction) while pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder. I didn't realize pedo's are ONLY attracted to children.

I was wrong.

[Primemuscle]

A man being sexually attracted to another male, whatever the age, is gay. If the male is a prepubescent boy then he is a gay pedophile.

Why do you dispute this other then you think it makes gays look worse as your instinct is always to stick up for homosexuals?

Science disputes it. Read up!

[Primemuscle]

It is always an invalid argument, , even if true, to say that if someone believes such and such then they are a this or that. That's not an argument. I can just as easily say that anybody that doesn't think a male having sex with another male regardless of age isn't gay is either gay himself or a pedo.

And for the record:

'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term

The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the desired sexual object.


http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyHomosexualAbuse.php?%2Farticles%2FDaileyHomosexualAbuse.htm

Thanks for the link. To put perspective on this website and Fr. Johannes Jacobse opinions verses scientific findings, read the about page. http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/about/

To hear Fr. Johannes Jacobse preach check out his video:

[Primemuscle]

I agree that pedos should be in a category of their own, they are not gay or straight they are sick in the head and have no room in any society. Not fair to label them as homosexual as homos have no attraction to kids and do no harm other than sometimes to themselves. Pedos are another ball game completely, they can't be cured either, even castration doesn't work.

Some pedophiles are married to or partnered with either a woman or another man. In my opinion, it is possible for a person to be both heterosexual or homosexual and also a pedophile.

Jerry Sandusky was found guilty of child sexual abuse, but not pedophilia. However, there's a strong possibility he molested prepubescent children. Sandusky married Dorothy "Dottie" in 1966, and together they have six adopted children. One of his sons, Jeffrey Sandusky was arrested in 2017 and charged with sexual abuse of a child. In his case, it was a 15 year old girl. Another of Jerry's adopted sons, Matt claims he was molested by his adoptive father. Whew, that was one really fucked up situation. Surely Jerry's wife Dotti knew something wasn't right with her husband, wouldn't you think?

[Primemuscle]

I understand your point.

Society has defined heterosexual (opposite sex attraction) and homosexuality (same sex attraction) while pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder. I didn't realize pedo's are ONLY attracted to children.

I was wrong.

Perhaps you weren't wrong.

"Although the majority of pedophiles are exclusively attracted to children, many are fortunate to have some attraction to men or women their own age. This is why many pedophiles are able to get married, have healthy sex lives, bear children, and even deny the reality of their attraction to children far into their adult lives." https://www.cbc.ca/firsthand/m/features/four-misconceptions-about-pedophiles

[pellius]

Thanks for the link. To put perspective on this website and Fr. Johannes Jacobse opinions verses scientific findings, read the about page. http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/about/

To hear Fr. Johannes Jacobse preach check out his video:

The article was not written by Fr. Jacobse.

[pellius]

Science disputes it. Read up!

Science supports it. Read up!

https://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/student_life/studentorgs/lawreview/docs/issues/v14n2/Vol.%2014,%20No.%202,%203%20Baldwin.pdf

"Using twisted logic, pro-gay academics argue in various social
science journals that the molestation of boys is not a gay lifestyle issue
and that such men are not really homosexuals. It is simply amazing that
gay propagandists and sexology "experts" are successfully bamboozling
the public and the media into believing that a man's exclusive focus on
young males should not be defined as homosexuality! But if an exclusive
attraction of a male to other males of any age is not homosexuality, what is?"

[Dave D]

Science supports it. Read up!

https://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/student_life/studentorgs/lawreview/docs/issues/v14n2/Vol.%2014,%20No.%202,%203%20Baldwin.pdf

"Using twisted logic, pro-gay academics argue in various social
science journals that the molestation of boys is not a gay lifestyle issue
and that such men are not really homosexuals. It is simply amazing that
gay propagandists and sexology "experts" are successfully bamboozling
the public and the media into believing that a man's exclusive focus on
young males should not be defined as homosexuality! But if an exclusive
attraction of a male to other males of any age is not homosexuality, what is?"

What's even more interesting is that pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder and not a sexual orientation but homosexuality or a identity issue such as transgender aren't classified as such.

[Palumboism]

Nothing to do with turning it into the genderless scouts.

I was in Boy Scouts and my troop would have enjoyed having the Girl scouts join us. 

I believe the ruling even allowed older girls in their late teens to join to try to attain the Eagle scout.  The white knighting would be ridiculous.

Believe me, the complaints would be coming from the girls, not the boys.   

 

[Griffith]

I was in Boy Scouts and my troop would have enjoyed having the Girl scouts join us. 

I believe the ruling even allowed older girls in their late teens to join to try to attain the Eagle scout.  The white knighting would be ridiculous.

Believe me, the complaints would be coming from the girls, not the boys.   

 

In such a situation, males and females should be kept separate. At the time, as a teen, I would think it would be great...but there would be relationships and sleeping around and this would not be good for discipline and team building.

Same with the military, men and women should be in separate units.

[pellius]

At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.

The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.

[IRON CROSS]

and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.

BS bigger than Banzai Pipeline  & Tommy Robinson is your friend 2 ........................ .....

[Primemuscle]

The article was not written by Fr. Jacobse.

Your right it wasn't written by him. However, he published it on his website.  Fr. Jacobse and Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. are of the same mind regarding many things. Timothy J. Dailey has senior-level research and writing experience with major Christian ministries, including working in the public policy arena in Washington DC. He has been a writer and editor of commentaries for a nationally-syndicated radio program. Doctor Dailey's writings draw upon insights which are drawn from the author's extensive training, including a Ph.D. in Religion and Ethics. Dr. Dailey argued that a "paranormal conspiracy" including such phenomena as UFOs, Bigfoot, spirit contact, ghosts, and alien abduction is part of a demonic deception.

So what's your point? They are both religious crackpots IMO.

[pellius]

Your right it wasn't written by him. However, he published it on his website. Are you suggesting Fr. Jacobse does not agree or support what Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. wrote?

No, but it does not discount the validity of Daily's article. Just like if someone I disagree with, say David Duke, supports Trump, it doesn't diminish or discredits Trump's stance on immigration, taxes, military...

[Conker]

pedolust you really are a dumb shyte. none of what you've offered has anything to do with "science". they're just very biased opinion pieces. post something from a science journal that is peer reviewed.

i really don't get what your motives are for trying to cosy up with hard right conservatism as you do? you do realise these people would view your poor, unemployed, ethnic @ss as a piece of sht right?

what is the deal? you're the bottom of the pile...are you trying to make yourself feel better by attacking gays? or are you repressed?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/666571

A random sample of 175 males convicted of sexual assault against children was screened with reference to their adult sexual orientation and the sex of their victims. The sample divided fairly evenly into two groups based on whether they were sexually fixated exclusively on children or had regressed from peer relationships. Female children were victimized nearly twice as often as male children. All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.


Ok homosexual paedophilia may be a "clinical term" but you'll notice there's a clear distinction made between homosexuality and "homosexual paedophilia"

[Primemuscle]

No, but it does not discount the validity of Daily's article. Just like if someone I disagree with, say David Duke, supports Trump, it doesn't diminish or discredits Trump's stance on immigration, taxes, military...

Sorry, I looked further into Dr. Dailey after I originally posted my reply. A problem some people have is they believe just because someone has a PhD. they should be believed because they must know what they are talking about regardless the subject. Nowhere could I find that he is trained in or qualified to speak on human sexuality other than to express his opinions which are not necessarily based on valid or factual findings. He has spoken and written his views on various aspects of homosexuality. Obviously, he is very interested in this subject....almost obsessively so.
 

[Primemuscle]

At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.

The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.

It's hard to accept that you actually believe the Boy Scouts was fine just the way it was when they facilitated and possibly protected child molesters, who BTW way were probably in the closet where you say they should stay. You comments about people's proclivities is very colorful and descriptive. How is it you know so much about these things? Hmmm.

[Humble Narcissist]

At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.

The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.

Agreed.  I wish the queers would stay in the closet.

[pellius]

Dude, you  live in Hawaii...repeat you live in f'n Hawaii.
Please, for your own sake, get off the cpu and go enjoy yourself.

You'll thank me later.

Get to a gym and get rid of the flab.

You'll thank me later.

[pellius]

It's hard to accept that you actually believe the Boy Scouts was fine just the way it was when they facilitated and possibly protected child molesters, who BTW way were probably in the closet where you say they should stay. You comments about people's proclivities is very colorful and descriptive. How is it you know so much about these things? Hmmm.

I know it's  hard for you to accept because you don't want to. You prefer to believe that gays and homosexuality is everywhere and on everyone's mind. Despite the fact that the Boy Scouts have been one of the most successful organizations in instilling character, values, and self reliance ever for boys transitioning to men now you want to claim they facilitated and protected child molestation.

You were never a Scout. I was from a preteen up until high school. Faggotry was a non issue. The subject of gays and homosexuality was just never even brought up or a factor or consideration with anything? Not everybody has gay sex on their mind or has it as the most defining issue in their lives?

[pellius]

pedolust you really are a dumb shyte. none of what you've offered has anything to do with "science". they're just very biased opinion pieces. post something from a science journal that is peer reviewed.

i really don't get what your motives are for trying to cosy up with hard right conservatism as you do? you do realise these people would view your poor, unemployed, ethnic @ss as a piece of sht right?

what is the deal? you're the bottom of the pile...are you trying to make yourself feel better by attacking gays? or are you repressed?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/666571

A random sample of 175 males convicted of sexual assault against children was screened with reference to their adult sexual orientation and the sex of their victims. The sample divided fairly evenly into two groups based on whether they were sexually fixated exclusively on children or had regressed from peer relationships. Female children were victimized nearly twice as often as male children. All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.


Ok homosexual paedophilia may be a "clinical term" but you'll notice there's a clear distinction made between homosexuality and "homosexual paedophilia"

You have zero credibilty. You keep portraying me as poor, unemployed, repressed... even when it's  demonstrably false. But that's what you do. You can't debate but just project your own views and agendas and portray them and others as you would like them to be. You lie about yourself and about others. You're a weird and creepy guy.