Trump and Draft

[Conker]

Fuck sake man, our prime minister David Cameron got away with putting his wang in the mouth of a pig. And I don't mean Theresa May. 

I'd lay evens the pig would rather of been grabbed by the pussy!

[Dave D]

I'd lay evens the pig would rather of been grabbed by the pussy!

 

[usmcdevildoc]

Let's get them witches including Trump Jr. and milktoast Kushner.

[DooM_]

I'd lay evens the pig would rather of been grabbed by the pussy!

you'd like that

[chaos]

From what I gather ali converted to Islam before the US entered the war in Vietnam.

He said(roughly) his enemy was the white establishment so why would he go and fight against other brown people thousands of miles away that he had no quarrel with on behalf of his real enemy...

Sounds like a pretty honourable position to me. 

The US has been in vietnam since the 50's, with troops there since the early 60's, well before Cassius turned his back on his country and started playing the race card. Slave name...

[Irongrip400]

Fuck sake man, our prime minister David Cameron got away with putting his wang in the mouth of a pig. And I don't mean Theresa May. 

Do what!? Please explain, as I’d rather not have that on my “search history” 

[Conker]

The US has been in vietnam since the 50's, with troops there since the early 60's, well before Cassius turned his back on his country and started playing the race card. Slave name...

"Aug. 2-4, 1964: Two supposed incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin lead Johnson to seek congressional approval for direct U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

March 8, 1965: First Marines land in Danang."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/653693001

First combat troops landed in 1965. Ali changed religion before that. Pretty certain there would slim to nil chance of ali being drafted to serve in Vietnam prior US military engagement.
So it's just fantasy that ali changed religion to avoid going to Vietnam

You think Africans turned up in the states with names like cassius? 

[chaos]

"Aug. 2-4, 1964: Two supposed incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin lead Johnson to seek congressional approval for direct U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

March 8, 1965: First Marines land in Danang."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/653693001

First combat troops landed in 1965. Ali changed religion before that. Pretty certain there would slim to nil chance of ali being drafted to serve in Vietnam prior US military engagement.
So it's just fantasy that ali changed religion to avoid going to Vietnam

You think Africans turned up in the states with names like cassius? 

We were already there, with troops well before 64, that was simply the "official" start.

You think Cassius was brought to the US as a slave?

[Conker]

We were already there, with troops well before 64, that was simply the "official" start.

You think Cassius was brought to the US as a slave?

even if ali had been drafted, as HW world champ and the greatest US sportsman of that era (probably ever) he would not have placed anywhere near even remote danger.

it was a political statement and a stand of principle and honour. as one the top 3 greatest "americans" of all time , i would have thought you'd hold him in higher regard.

no clay was not a slave. try reading a few books if you don't understand what he meant by his "slave name"

[chaos]

even if ali had been drafted, as HW world champ and the greatest US sportsman of that era (probably ever) he would not have placed anywhere near even remote danger.

Many "stars" served in the military, most kept away from any real danger. Cassius could have done the same.

it was a political statement and a stand of principle and honour. as one the top 3 greatest "americans" of all time , i would have thought you'd hold him in higher regard.

If I thought his intentions were to really take a stand against some kind of racist wrongdoing, then maybe I'd have some sort of sympathy for him. However, as he himself stated, he didn't want to fight "other brown people in a white mans war", so his intentions weren't right, his intention was to avoid the draft, avoid going to war, avoid serving his country. He was a racist coward that hid behind his supposed religion.

no clay was not a slave. try reading a few books if you don't understand what he meant by his "slave name"

Are you retarded? You said "You think Africans turned up in the states with names like cassius?"  Who gave him the name Cassius? Was it his slave owners?

[Conker]

Many "stars" served in the military, most kept away from any real danger. Cassius could have done the same.

If I thought his intentions were to really take a stand against some kind of racist wrongdoing, then maybe I'd have some sort of sympathy for him. However, as he himself stated, he didn't want to fight "other brown people in a white mans war", so his intentions weren't right, his intention was to avoid the draft, avoid going to war, avoid serving his country. He was a racist coward that hid behind his supposed religion.
Are you retarded? You said "You think Africans turned up in the states with names like cassius?"  Who gave him the name Cassius? Was it his slave owners?

exactly. so why was he a "coward" if as you say "stars" were always kept away from any danger? he could have been drafted not been stripped of his world title etc...safe in the knowledge that he was going nowhere near any danger anyway...

it was a political statement... he knew he was never going to be drafted into "war".

what you're saying is not making any logical sense.

and again, try reading some books if you don't think there was any "racist wrongdoing" to make a stand against during that era. immeasurably more so then than there is now.

smith, jones, clay...these are not african names. blacks in the US have these names due to slavery...if you're not trolling and you actually couldn't work out what ali meant by "slave names", far from me being retarded, my brain is clearly working at a somewhat higher level than yours.

[NarcissisticDeity]

my brain is clearly working at a somewhat higher level than yours.

Says the " elf " who got ripped off from " god " for fake drugs  You're a fucking idiot

[Conker]

Says the " elf " who got ripped off from " god " for fake drugs  You're a fucking idiot

comments from the peanut gallery are not required. thank you.

[chaos]

exactly. so why was he a "coward" if as you say "stars" were always kept away from any danger? he could have been drafted not been stripped of his world title etc...safe in the knowledge that he was going nowhere near any danger anyway...

it was a political statement... he knew he was never going to be drafted into "war".

what you're saying is not making any logical sense.

and again, try reading some books if you don't think there was any "racist wrongdoing" to make a stand against during that era. immeasurably more so then than there is now.

smith, jones, clay...these are not african names. blacks in the US have these names due to slavery...if you're not trolling and you actually couldn't work out what ali meant by "slave names", far from me being retarded, my brain is clearly working at a somewhat higher level than yours.

His was an act of cowardice hidden behind racism. If you don't understand that, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.

[Conservative Coach]

Interesting that you chose to respond when I mentioned douchebag liberals.  It's like the old saying goes......Speak of the douchebag and he is bound to appear.

You are an unfunny gimmick, your stolen name sucks, and you should feel bad.

Donald Trump could have been Ho Chi Mihn's right hand man in Vietnam and still I wouldn't care.

Vietnam was a shitty pointless war and draft dodgers like Muhammad Ali are big hero's to the left.  Trump should be cheered for this..............if it's even true.
Fuzzy memory minion? Actually, I appeared when you celebrated a draft dodging coward.

[Griffith]

His was an act of cowardice hidden behind racism. If you don't understand that, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.

His IQ was 78, great boxer and athlete but not intelligent.

He seems to have missed the point, the war was against communists and the spread of communism.

South Vietnam was a prosperous nation, North Vietnam a communist dictatorship.

The pulling out of US and Western troops left them to fall to the invading communists. 'Re-education camps' followed, murder and property seizures.

The fall of South Vietnam to the communist terrorists was a disaster, they have still haven't fully recovered.

[Conker]

His was an act of cowardice hidden behind racism. If you don't understand that, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.

you keep saying he was coward but what was he scared of? you admit that even if drafted people of ali's stature would have never been placed in harm's way...so what are you saying he was scared of?

you do understand the what the word coward means right?

lets see what the greatest and probably the most courageous american to ever live has to say on the issue

so the greatest ever american applauds ali's courage for his stand on the vietnam war....but "chaos" off getbig says he was a coward.....

hmmm....who to believe...this is really tough!!

[DooM_]

you keep saying he was coward but what was he scared of? you admit that even if drafted people of ali's stature would have never been placed in harm's way...so what are you saying he was scared of?

you do understand the what the word coward means right?

lets see what the greatest and probably the most courageous american to ever live has to say on the issue

so the greatest ever american applauds ali's courage for his stand on the vietnam war....but "chaos" off getbig says he was a coward.....

hmmm....who to believe...this is really tough!!

 

maybe for an ' afro - caribean ' slave descendent with a criminal record

[Conker]

well in a poll of millions of americans MLK was voted as the 3rd greatest american of all time. 77% of the US population is white. so once you make the necessary adjustments for natural racial bias , it's pretty clear that MLK is the greatest american to ever have lived and by quite some distance too.

[MAXX]

I think he should pull the troops in Afghanistan aswell

There is no Point in trying to "defeat" isis or al quida. I like Trump but he is naive thinking ISIS is "defeated". What people doesnt seem to grasp is that there is a constant recruitment. If you kill one, three more pops up anyways. Teenage boys gets recruited constantly or join by free will. Also countries in Europe is now a safespace for them where they keep silent recruitment and operation.

Safest bet is to throw out all arabs from the western countries. But that will never happen with current EU leadership.

[MAXX]

This:

 = Complete waste of Money, lives, recourses

[DooM_]

well in a poll of millions of americans MLK was voted as the 3rd greatest american of all time. 77% of the US population is white. so once you make the necessary adjustments for natural racial bias , it's pretty clear that MLK is the greatest american to ever have lived and by quite some distance too.

' polls ' mean nothing  , they got it completely wrong with brexit and trump or have you already forgotten

[chaos]

well in a poll of millions of americans MLK was voted as the 3rd greatest american of all time. 77% of the US population is white. so once you make the necessary adjustments for natural racial bias , it's pretty clear that MLK is the greatest american to ever have lived and by quite some distance too.

This is why you cant be taken seriously.

[ratherbebig]

This is why you cant be taken seriously.

slightly less?

[pellius]

well in a poll of millions of americans MLK was voted as the 3rd greatest american of all time. 77% of the US population is white. so once you make the necessary adjustments for natural racial bias , it's pretty clear that MLK is the greatest american to ever have lived and by quite some distance too.

Once again the arrogant, filthy, inbred Paki lies. There are no polls showing MLK as the 3rd greatest American, at least according to a google search. The top two mostly alternate between Lincoln and Washington while the third varies between polls (Jefferson, Reagan, Roosevelt...). There is one poll that has MLK as high as fourth but that's it.

Cocker is a prime example of what you get when your dad "mates" with his sister, both who are already products of inbreeding. A ghoulish looking mental retard.