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Machines vs. Free Weights
« on: January 03, 2019, 10:44:53 AM »
Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2019, 10:51:08 AM »
the only reason you favore machines is because of your electric dildo


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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 10:52:47 AM »
The only machine that is worth something.

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2019, 11:15:34 AM »
Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!


This is shit that beginners ask.

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 11:19:33 AM »

This is shit that beginners ask.

i just started to lift weights last week, Sherlock.
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 11:28:55 AM »
i just started to lift weights last week, Sherlock.

Is that true?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2019, 11:35:13 AM »
Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

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Why not lift light to moderate free weights?  Machines are shit.  You can do medium to high reps with free weights which works all direct muscles plus stabilizer muscles while forcing you to use balance and you can change the angle in the middle of the set.  Machines are a gimmick to get beginners or idiots to join gyms because they think machines are more scientific.  How much better would Steve Reeves or John Grimek had they only had machines? ::)

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2019, 11:36:53 AM »
why not stay natural?

go out and lift and work with what mother nature provides.

there's branches, trees, rocks...

nature provides it all for us.


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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 11:37:09 AM »
How do machines save your joints ???

They are worse for the most part...

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 11:42:26 AM »
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2019, 11:51:33 AM »
Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

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It's their choice. And why would you only have to be a "superior" athlete to use compound movements?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2019, 11:53:24 AM »
It's their choice. And why would you only have to be a "superior" athlete to use compound movements?


because no sense otherwise.
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2019, 12:02:47 PM »
why not stay natural?

go out and lift and work with what mother nature provides.

there's branches, trees, rocks...

nature provides it all for us.


Yes but rocks and branches are uneven in weight distribution.  They do work the body well though.  Read the book Dinosaur Training by Brooks Kubik and he covers lifting heavy uneven rocks and sandbags, etc.

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2019, 12:04:17 PM »
because no sense otherwise.

So you're saying that there is no reason for non "superior" athletes to use heavy weights or compound movements....am I understanding this correctly?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2019, 12:15:55 PM »
So you're saying that there is no reason for non "superior" athletes to use heavy weights or compound movements....am I understanding this correctly?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2019, 12:17:43 PM »
Why not lift light to moderate free weights?  Machines are shit.  You can do medium to high reps with free weights which works all direct muscles plus stabilizer muscles while forcing you to use balance and you can change the angle in the middle of the set.  Machines are a gimmick to get beginners or idiots to join gyms because they think machines are more scientific.  How much better would Steve Reeves or John Grimek had they only had machines? ::)

lift the whole stack on the machines.
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2019, 12:24:49 PM »
lift the whole stack on the machines.
You still won't build much strength overall.

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2019, 12:24:52 PM »
Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son!  :)

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2019, 12:25:16 PM »
Correct.

I see, and what's your reasoning?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2019, 12:28:07 PM »
Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

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free weights only machines I use pull downs. row machine push downs ... leg press extensions leg curls..
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2019, 12:29:14 PM »
Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son!  :)
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2019, 12:31:15 PM »
Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son!  :)
But the argument is which is better.  Of course you can do both but if you could only do one which would it be?

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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2019, 12:37:58 PM »
But the argument is which is better.  Of course you can do both but if you could only do one which would it be?
free weights of course he didn't say machines with a little free weights added in
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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2019, 12:44:52 PM »
The only machine that is worth something.



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Re: Machines vs. Free Weights
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2019, 01:00:25 PM »
Locked away in Aussie area 51 warehouse near military airport  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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