Machines vs. Free Weights

[SF1900]

Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!

[ratherbebig]

the only reason you favore machines is because of your electric dildo

[SF1900]

The only machine that is worth something.

[Royalty]

Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!

This is shit that beginners ask.

[SF1900]

This is shit that beginners ask.

i just started to lift weights last week, Sherlock.

[Palumboism]

i just started to lift weights last week, Sherlock.

Is that true?

[Humble Narcissist]

Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!

Why not lift light to moderate free weights?  Machines are shit.  You can do medium to high reps with free weights which works all direct muscles plus stabilizer muscles while forcing you to use balance and you can change the angle in the middle of the set.  Machines are a gimmick to get beginners or idiots to join gyms because they think machines are more scientific.  How much better would Steve Reeves or John Grimek had they only had machines?

[ratherbebig]

why not stay natural?

go out and lift and work with what mother nature provides.

there's branches, trees, rocks...

nature provides it all for us.

[cephissus]

How do machines save your joints

They are worse for the most part...

[SF1900]

Is that true?

yes.

[Coach is Back!]

Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!

It's their choice. And why would you only have to be a "superior" athlete to use compound movements?

[SF1900]

It's their choice. And why would you only have to be a "superior" athlete to use compound movements?

because no sense otherwise.

[Humble Narcissist]

why not stay natural?

go out and lift and work with what mother nature provides.

there's branches, trees, rocks...

nature provides it all for us.

Yes but rocks and branches are uneven in weight distribution.  They do work the body well though.  Read the book Dinosaur Training by Brooks Kubik and he covers lifting heavy uneven rocks and sandbags, etc.

[Coach is Back!]

because no sense otherwise.

So you're saying that there is no reason for non "superior" athletes to use heavy weights or compound movements....am I understanding this correctly?

[SF1900]

So you're saying that there is no reason for non "superior" athletes to use heavy weights or compound movements....am I understanding this correctly?

Correct.

[SF1900]

Why not lift light to moderate free weights?  Machines are shit.  You can do medium to high reps with free weights which works all direct muscles plus stabilizer muscles while forcing you to use balance and you can change the angle in the middle of the set.  Machines are a gimmick to get beginners or idiots to join gyms because they think machines are more scientific.  How much better would Steve Reeves or John Grimek had they only had machines?

lift the whole stack on the machines.

[Humble Narcissist]

lift the whole stack on the machines.

You still won't build much strength overall.

[wes]

Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son! 

[Coach is Back!]

Correct.

I see, and what's your reasoning?

[dan18]

Unless one is a powerlifter/bodybuilder/Olympic Lifter/Superior Athlete, what is the point of using heavy free weight or compound movements, that will destroy your body in the end? If you're just training to stay in shape and healthy, machines will give you exactly what you need, while saving your joints and overall body.

There is zero rationale for using heavy free weights for overall fitness and health.

What you, getbig?!!?!?!!???!

free weights only machines I use pull downs. row machine push downs ... leg press extensions leg curls..

[dan18]

Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son! 

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[Humble Narcissist]

Free weights are far superior in the long run mixed in of course with a smattering of machines.

This is beginners stuff son! 

But the argument is which is better.  Of course you can do both but if you could only do one which would it be?

[dan18]

But the argument is which is better.  Of course you can do both but if you could only do one which would it be?

free weights of course he didn't say machines with a little free weights added in

[IRON CROSS]

The only machine that is worth something.

Locked away in Aussie area 51 warehouse near military airport 

Google : Richmond airport ,Sydney ........................ ..

[Humble Narcissist]

Locked away in Aussie area 51 warehouse near military airport 

Google : Richmond airport ,Sydney ........................ ..

Yes, that machine is only used by the super elite military spec ops, spy agencies and aliens.