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Dave D

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2019, 09:33:13 PM »
Congrats to you but you aren't dead yet.  If you are still in your 30's or 40's there is a good chance you will end up divorced.

From the moment we are conceived we are all on a path to death.

50% of all businesses fail, but people keep trying. 50% of the population will get cancer but people still get treatment regardless of the survival percentage. At some point the majority of people will get screwed over by their employer but they still go to work.

Most odds for anything (worth having) in life arent in our favor but you cant let failure stop you from trying to beat the odds.

Marriage today isnt what it was 50 years ago, but neither are people the same. The culture changes.

I understand where you guys are coming from when you say marriage is a bad choice but you need to examine all the factors that lead to such high divorce rates, and it's not always the fault of the woman. Some people cant be married but they cant admit that to their self.

I have a friend who was married 3 times by the time he was 33. I told him he needed to examine his life before he got married for the 3rd time and he got offended and stopped talking to me.

Most dont realize what they're getting involved with when they are getting married, they are clinging to a fairy tale of romance and relationship. They dont realize the strains and stresses of life change people and relationships. Family issues change relationships.

Good relationships require work, even bad relationships need effort to become toxic.

All that said I wish you the best in life and relationship and I respect your opinion,  because I know you've developed it from the truth that you've experienced.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2019, 03:13:50 AM »
From the moment we are conceived we are all on a path to death.

50% of all businesses fail, but people keep trying. 50% of the population will get cancer but people still get treatment regardless of the survival percentage. At some point the majority of people will get screwed over by their employer but they still go to work.

Most odds for anything (worth having) in life arent in our favor but you cant let failure stop you from trying to beat the odds.

Marriage today isnt what it was 50 years ago, but neither are people the same. The culture changes.

I understand where you guys are coming from when you say marriage is a bad choice but you need to examine all the factors that lead to such high divorce rates, and it's not always the fault of the woman. Some people cant be married but they cant admit that to their self.

I have a friend who was married 3 times by the time he was 33. I told him he needed to examine his life before he got married for the 3rd time and he got offended and stopped talking to me.

Most dont realize what they're getting involved with when they are getting married, they are clinging to a fairy tale of romance and relationship. They dont realize the strains and stresses of life change people and relationships. Family issues change relationships.

Good relationships require work, even bad relationships need effort to become toxic.

All that said I wish you the best in life and relationship and I respect your opinion,  because I know you've developed it from the truth that you've experienced.
If a business fails you don't have to keep paying it alimony for a decade or more.  Bezos is just the last guy who is losing 1/2 of his fortune plus his future earnings in his business that HE built.  Again, this isn't the 1950's anymore.  My parents have been married almost 50 years so I know many people stay married for life but those people are becoming more and more rare.  Married people always defend marriage and think it's the best thing in the world and single people always defend being single.  Different strokes for different folks but know the positives and negatives of both lifestyles before making the choice.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2019, 08:09:40 AM »
If a business fails you don't have to keep paying it alimony for a decade or more.  Bezos is just the last guy who is losing 1/2 of his fortune plus his future earnings in his business that HE built.  Again, this isn't the 1950's anymore.  My parents have been married almost 50 years so I know many people stay married for life but those people are becoming more and more rare.  Married people always defend marriage and think it's the best thing in the world and single people always defend being single.  Different strokes for different folks but know the positives and negatives of both lifestyles before making the choice.

And if a business is super successful you have people sue you for your money.  If Bezos ends up "losing" half, and we won't know for sure until its settled, who cares. Do you really think his wife played ZERO role in his success? Lol

I never said marriage is the best thing in the world I said a marriage requires work for it to be good or bad. I said marriage isn't for everyone and that most couples have a completely different idea of what marriage is. Most should stay single and relationship free.

We all know of couples who live together for 20 years, have a family and finally decide to get married and are divorced within 3 years. What's so different about marriage compared to what they already had? The answer is deep and again marriage isn't for everyone

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2019, 11:51:43 AM »
And if a business is super successful you have people sue you for your money.  If Bezos ends up "losing" half, and we won't know for sure until its settled, who cares. Do you really think his wife played ZERO role in his success? Lol

I never said marriage is the best thing in the world I said a marriage requires work for it to be good or bad. I said marriage isn't for everyone and that most couples have a completely different idea of what marriage is. Most should stay single and relationship free.

We all know of couples who live together for 20 years, have a family and finally decide to get married and are divorced within 3 years. What's so different about marriage compared to what they already had? The answer is deep and again marriage isn't for everyone
Yes, I believe she played zero percent in his success.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2019, 12:25:33 PM »
Yes, I believe she played zero percent in his success.

Very good.

Maybe Bezos isn't as smart of as business man as we think if he couldn't figure out a better termination contract  with his life partner.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2019, 01:08:41 PM »
Very good.

Maybe Bezos isn't as smart of as business man as we think if he couldn't figure out a better termination contract  with his life partner.
They were married before amazon so I doubt she signs a post nuptual when he makes his first several million. ::)

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2019, 03:47:31 PM »
They were married before amazon so I doubt she signs a post nuptual when he makes his first several million. ::)

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As I said if he was as smart as we all thought he would have signed a prenup.

He knew the odds of his marriage success as well as the laws of the state he lives in. He was smart enough to predict  the future of e-commerce (built on the sale of books nonetheless) he could have had a prenup.