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« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2019, 11:29:01 AM »

It slows it down a lot though.  You will never catch everyone but the vast majority of illegal criminals from Mexico are not Chapo and do not have those resources.

Let's say the U.S. has only so many dollars to spend on illegal immigration which doesn't cover everything possible to reduce it, would you recommend spending the money on a wall, on manpower or spread it between the two, knowing neither the wall nor the manpower shortage will be adequately funded?
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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2019, 12:33:23 PM »

Let's say the U.S. has only so many dollars to spend on illegal immigration which doesn't cover everything possible to reduce it, would you recommend spending the money on a wall, on manpower or spread it between the two, knowing neither the wall nor the manpower shortage will be adequately funded?
Since you asked, I would make it a criminal action to a) employ an illegal immigrant with a 30 day jail term for the 1st offense, 60 day 2nd offense, 90 day for the 3rd offense, etc, etc.

b) make it illegal to allow school districts to allow illegals to go to school there with the same punishments as (a) for school administrators

c) any city, county, state or federal official defending illegals in sanctuary cities would have same punishments as (a&b)

d) all welfare benefits (food stamps, ADC, WIC, Medicaid, etc) would not be given to illegals

I would give all illegals 30 days to leave the country on their own uninterrupted.  Once that 30 days is up I would completely close the border and put military personnel on the border until the wall was completed.  After the wall was completed there would still be border patrol agents along the border every so many miles to insure no one gets through.

After all of this is done I would open the guest worker program and would allow visas given for farm, factory, construction and other businesses that need employees that Americans won't do.  Those legal workers would receive health care and freedom to send their kids to school here as well.

Regardless of what it costs initially the savings over the long haul would be worth it.  Legal workers who commit crimes would be sent back and their visas taken.  Any illegal caught at this point here would be put in a detention jail and later deported.

If these things were implemented the desire to get in this country illegally would evaporate AND the desire for business people to hire illegals would go as well.  The first time a meat packing plant owner did 30 days in jail would be the last time, I guarantee.
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« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2019, 04:29:32 PM »

I think the "Build the wall" Trumpers are motivated more by a cultural concern.
It's a racist based fear of the "browning" of America.


Bullshit. Why do democrats keep saying this shit? Everything is about race to democrats, why?
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« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2019, 06:17:55 PM »

Bullshit. Why do democrats keep saying this shit? Everything is about race to democrats, why?

Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.
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« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2019, 07:44:39 PM »

Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.

Whole bunch of "reportedly" and anonymous "people briefed" in that "story" Roll Eyes
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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2019, 01:04:22 PM »

ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border
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« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2019, 03:56:25 PM »

ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border
Why not, easy move.
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« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2019, 08:40:40 PM »

ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border

And the Democraps would welcome them with free $’s
And invite them to a sanctuary city.
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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2019, 05:26:37 AM »

WINNING!!! MEXICO now busing CENTRAL AMERICAN MIGRANTS back to GUATEMALA

Migrants detained in Mexico are sent BACK to Guatemala as part of tougher security on the border following pressure from Trump over tariffs Government buses were seen crossing the Mexico-Guatemala border Thursday They were carrying migrants being forced to return to their home countries

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7114457/Migrants-detained-Mexico-sent-Guatemala-officials-fight-block-Trump-tariffs.html
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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2019, 07:28:20 AM »

Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.



Are you saying those Scandinavians are less educated and commit more crimes than the "immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations" ??
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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2019, 07:54:53 AM »

Love how they use the term "Immigration" ...LOL

Its a FREAKIN INVASION.... holy moly...

How dumbfarks can't see this is beyond me
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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2019, 09:24:44 AM »

Love how they use the term "Immigration" ...LOL

Its a FREAKIN INVASION.... holy moly...

How dumbfarks can't see this is beyond me
It is an invasion and they know it.  The democrats want to let these people in because it means more votes for them in the future.  They want to turn the U.S. into a shithole country because it means more power for them.
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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2019, 09:25:04 AM »

Since you asked, I would make it a criminal action to a) employ an illegal immigrant with a 30 day jail term for the 1st offense, 60 day 2nd offense, 90 day for the 3rd offense, etc, etc.

b) make it illegal to allow school districts to allow illegals to go to school there with the same punishments as (a) for school administrators

c) any city, county, state or federal official defending illegals in sanctuary cities would have same punishments as (a&b)

d) all welfare benefits (food stamps, ADC, WIC, Medicaid, etc) would not be given to illegals

I would give all illegals 30 days to leave the country on their own uninterrupted.  Once that 30 days is up I would completely close the border and put military personnel on the border until the wall was completed.  After the wall was completed there would still be border patrol agents along the border every so many miles to insure no one gets through.

After all of this is done I would open the guest worker program and would allow visas given for farm, factory, construction and other businesses that need employees that Americans won't do.  Those legal workers would receive health care and freedom to send their kids to school here as well.

Regardless of what it costs initially the savings over the long haul would be worth it.  Legal workers who commit crimes would be sent back and their visas taken.  Any illegal caught at this point here would be put in a detention jail and later deported.

If these things were implemented the desire to get in this country illegally would evaporate AND the desire for business people to hire illegals would go as well.  The first time a meat packing plant owner did 30 days in jail would be the last time, I guarantee.

X2 Very Good Answer
IF only The UK would do that.
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