High reps for muscle hypertrophy?

[Coach is Back!]

do you wanna add size to arms? do feeders everyday and for 3 months and report bacK - Everyday

Never heard the term feeder. What is it

[tres_taco_combo]

Never heard the term feeder. What is it

this is super bro science - guess i will chime in on credibility since i have a legit 19-20 inch arm that is shaped well. and i know what works to make arm gains -

rich piana did a video on this . also there is a Bulgarian method - my brother is a competitive Oly lifter and i am the bber.  the eastern euro method is very similar.


theory to get as much blood/pump as possible as you can every single day with super high reps

example for arms
10lb dumb bells - so 100 curls, 100 overhead extensions (db skull crushers) 100 hammer curls
then do set two - exact same thing 100, 100, 100

do this everyday - yes everyday before bed for 2-3 months and watch your arm size grow. you will have a pump all the time - which is fucking legit and feels good.

i challenge anyone... who wants to main gains in their arms to do this every day and report back in 3 months, it is unreal



another work out i am a huge believer in - read the book and follow the super sqaut program from the book "super squats" you can find in a Milo or Iron mind booklet. that is the most legit program for making gains.

take what you can squat for 10 reps - now do it for 20 reps. just 1 set for the day - then you do overhead pull overs and leg extensions. you do it 3x a week for many weeks and eat tons of fatty foods. heavy creams, tons of eggs, red meat

again these are all really eastern eruo/russian methods.  those styles of training where the first things i ever (the gym culture in chicago where i trained) and who i trained under all followed soviet era programs.


but feeders and super squats are the best not known programs.

FYI they both suck ass and are super hard. super squats is the ideal program for any teen to put on pure awesome mass. fuck everything else - the soviet weight programs were legit - hard core too

so glad i trained that way when i was younger

[The Scott]

Broscience personified. Well done.

No wonder you're alone.  You deserve to be. 

[Coach is Back!]

this is super bro science - guess i will chime in on credibility since i have a legit 19-20 inch arm that is shaped well. and i know what works to make arm gains -

rich piana did a video on this . also there is a Bulgarian method - my brother is a competitive Oly lifter and i am the bber.  the eastern euro method is very similar.


theory to get as much blood/pump as possible as you can every single day with super high reps

example for arms
10lb dumb bells - so 100 curls, 100 overhead extensions (db skull crushers) 100 hammer curls
then do set two - exact same thing 100, 100, 100

do this everyday - yes everyday before bed for 2-3 months and watch your arm size grow. you will have a pump all the time - which is fucking legit and feels good.

i challenge anyone... who wants to main gains in their arms to do this every day and report back in 3 months, it is unreal



another work out i am a huge believer in - read the book and follow the super sqaut program from the book "super squats" you can find in a Milo or Iron mind booklet. that is the most legit program for making gains.

take what you can squat for 10 reps - now do it for 20 reps. just 1 set for the day - then you do overhead pull overs and leg extensions. you do it 3x a week for many weeks and eat tons of fatty foods. heavy creams, tons of eggs, red meat

again these are all really eastern eruo/russian methods.  those styles of training where the first things i ever (the gym culture in chicago where i trained) and who i trained under all followed soviet era programs.


but feeders and super squats are the best not known programs.

FYI they both suck ass and are super hard. super squats is the ideal program for any teen to put on pure awesome mass. fuck everything else - the soviet weight programs were legit - hard core too

so glad i trained that way when i was younger

Interesting. Sounds legit. What’s the duration of this? (Weeks, months, etc)?

[The Scott]

J.C. Hise and the 20 rep breathing squat program works.  It's been around for decades because it works.

For anything to work you have to work.  Some people don't much care for hard work.

[tres_taco_combo]

Interesting. Sounds legit. What’s the duration of this? (Weeks, months, etc)?

for feeders for arm size i would go 3 months (every day 7 days a week) the 100, 100, 100 and then repaeat

-super squats i would say around 3 months.  

-3 days a week you squat for you can for 10 and do it for 20 reps. one mega set. you will be so tired, gasping, weezing, wanting to die, yelling out loud.  then after your set, you will do heavy DB pull overs for 3 sets and some leg extensions. the other days days really meant for rest.  again this is all soviet shit/eastern euro style training they used to publish in the Milo books

the soviet weight programs were hard core - they are a different breed esp the wrestlers and lifters.  the soviets had the best OLY lifts for years and the Americans copie alot of what they did. now i am not a historian.i am a pretty boy type who happened to fall into that style of training when I was younger.

crazy crazy gains.

super squats is the most grueling work out program ever. those giant sets of 20 reps are so fucking hard you pause at the top and weez.

[tres_taco_combo]

J.C. Hise and the 20 rep breathing squat program works.  It's been around for decades because it works.

For anything to work you have to work.  Some people don't much care for hard work.

that is shit is so hard core. it has been around for years and years but no one wants to do it since it is so hard. my coach at the time (i always have a trainer or a coach)  set me up on super squats.

[Vince B]

Nice to read extreme training brostyle. Endless possibilities and endless potential believers out there.

[Vince B]

No wonder you're alone.  You deserve to be. 

LOL. Pathetic response to a serious problem. Which is.... how to sustain hypertrophy.

[SF1900]

Nice to read extreme training brostyle. Endless possibilities and endless potential believers out there.

Yet, Tres looks 100x better than you.

Interesting.

[tres_taco_combo]

Nice to read extreme training brostyle. Endless possibilities and endless potential believers out there.

 the eastern euro methods/soviet methods work. i can attest the amazing body I have built - my arms and quads are top tier.  


so if they dont for everyone - the have worked for me and really all that matters.

most will never do the 2 programs i mentioned since they are fucking brutal and require serious will power and work ethic

i am not a trainer nor i sell anything fitness related so i have no shoe in this race - i am just giving feedback on the topic at hand i can attest the success i have had

[Vince B]

 the eastern euro methods/soviet methods work. i can attest the amazing body I have built - my arms and quads are top tier.  


so if they dont for everyone - the have worked for me and really all that matters.

most will never do the 2 programs i mentioned since they are fucking brutal and require serious will power and work ethic

i am not a trainer nor i sell anything fitness related so i have no shoe in this race - i am just giving feedback on the topic at hand i can attest the success i have had

I don't doubt your results or physique. You obviously know more than most here. However, I don't detect a consistent theory of hypertrophy from what you posted.

I agree that brutal workouts are required for really large muscles. This is a necessary but not sufficient condition. You admit that few can or will train this hard and that

partly explains why most don't have huge arms, etc.

[Coach is Back!]

Commercial break must be over....Vince is back on.

[Vince B]

In a Youtube video Tom Platz discussed the rep question re squats. His conclusion was to do more reps. More than 10 and often more than 20 brutal reps.

He leaves out how many sets of those high reps should be done. Well, he discusses this issue in other videos. Sergio Oliva and Arnold knew about repeating good sets over and over and over.

That is the key to hypertrophy. Another necessary condition but not sufficient, either. The accumulation of time under severe tension is the main trigger for hypertrophy.

Why are higher reps advocated by Tom? Interesting question. I also advocate higher reps for training arms. After higher rep warm up sets keep the reps over 15 if possible for triceps and 10 for biceps.

[The Scott]

LOL. Pathetic response to a serious problem. Which is.... how to sustain hypertrophy.

Do your relatives use salt to keep you away?  Yours is an IOL and with good reason you decrepit, filthy, ancient barely ambulatory pile of feces.  Your existence is predicated on people worshiping your theory of hypertrophy and your piece of sheit curl machine.  Fuck your noise.

[The Scott]

In a Youtube video Tom Platz discussed the rep question re squats. His conclusion was to do more reps. More than 10 and often more than 20 brutal reps.

He leaves out how many sets of those high reps should be done. Well, he discusses this issue in other videos. Sergio Oliva and Arnold knew about repeating good sets over and over and over.

That is the key to hypertrophy. Another necessary condition but not sufficient, either. The accumulation of time under severe tension is the main trigger for hypertrophy.

Why are higher reps advocated by Tom? Interesting question. I also advocate higher reps for training arms. After higher rep warm up sets keep the reps over 15 if possible for triceps and 10 for biceps.

Schmoe science. Fuck off kiddo.

[Vince B]

Do your relatives use salt to keep you away?  Yours is an IOL and with good reason you decrepit, filthy, ancient barely ambulatory pile of feces.  Your existence is predicated on people worshiping your theory of hypertrophy and your piece of sheit curl machine.  Fuck your noise.

It is always refreshing to hear an honest opinion from the Flotsam.

[pellius]

super bro science here but i believe in feeders for arm size and delt size

i would say feeder help .75 to 1inch on my arms.



also i think one needs to mix up bbing training
heavy duty
high reps/lots of negs and static holds
posing more inporant than training at times - even if you dont compete learn to pose - game changer

but...........wanna add some size to your arms? mine around usually around 20s as welll feeders work

What is a "feeder"?

[pellius]

Why not? I'm a visual person. So are a lot of other folks. Filling out a 'thong' is ego boosting and it gets you noticed. Hey, were all bodybuilders here...right?  Isn't bigger always better? 

Didn't you say you were 79 years old?

[pellius]

this is super bro science - guess i will chime in on credibility since i have a legit 19-20 inch arm that is shaped well. and i know what works to make arm gains -

rich piana did a video on this . also there is a Bulgarian method - my brother is a competitive Oly lifter and i am the bber.  the eastern euro method is very similar.


theory to get as much blood/pump as possible as you can every single day with super high reps

example for arms
10lb dumb bells - so 100 curls, 100 overhead extensions (db skull crushers) 100 hammer curls
then do set two - exact same thing 100, 100, 100

do this everyday - yes everyday before bed for 2-3 months and watch your arm size grow. you will have a pump all the time - which is fucking legit and feels good.

i challenge anyone... who wants to main gains in their arms to do this every day and report back in 3 months, it is unreal



another work out i am a huge believer in - read the book and follow the super sqaut program from the book "super squats" you can find in a Milo or Iron mind booklet. that is the most legit program for making gains.

take what you can squat for 10 reps - now do it for 20 reps. just 1 set for the day - then you do overhead pull overs and leg extensions. you do it 3x a week for many weeks and eat tons of fatty foods. heavy creams, tons of eggs, red meat

again these are all really eastern eruo/russian methods.  those styles of training where the first things i ever (the gym culture in chicago where i trained) and who i trained under all followed soviet era programs.


but feeders and super squats are the best not known programs.

FYI they both suck ass and are super hard. super squats is the ideal program for any teen to put on pure awesome mass. fuck everything else - the soviet weight programs were legit - hard core too

so glad i trained that way when i was younger

If this works on arms then it should work on other bodyparts. Have you tried this on say, delts? Calves? And why do you have to do it before bed? And when you say before bed, do you mean literally? Like right after I brush my teeth and about to jump in the sack I start doing curls?

[pellius]

In a Youtube video Tom Platz discussed the rep question re squats. His conclusion was to do more reps. More than 10 and often more than 20 brutal reps.

He leaves out how many sets of those high reps should be done. Well, he discusses this issue in other videos. Sergio Oliva and Arnold knew about repeating good sets over and over and over.

That is the key to hypertrophy. Another necessary condition but not sufficient, either. The accumulation of time under severe tension is the main trigger for hypertrophy.

Why are higher reps advocated by Tom? Interesting question. I also advocate higher reps for training arms. After higher rep warm up sets keep the reps over 15 if possible for triceps and 10 for biceps.

I always wondered why high reps were advocated for quad training (not hamstrings). Even Mentzer advocated higher reps on quads. What is the reasoning behind this and why wouldn't the same apply to the upper body?

If anything, it seems it should be the opposite. One of the limiting factors in doing compound leg movements (squats/leg press) is cardiovascular failure. You lose your breath before muscle failure. For example, you can do a single bicep curl until you can't budge the weight another fraction of an inch for 20 reps and then even do some forced reps and a couple of drop sets and your bis will be fried but systemically you be fine. You may be breathing a bit harder but no more than walking up a couple of flights of stairs. You do one 20 rep set of squats to failure you fall to the floor -- forget the forced reps, rest pause, drop sets. So with high reps compound leg movements most fail due to getting so winded that they can't tax their actual muscle enough.

[Vince B]

What is a "feeder"?

In the BBW community a feeder is a guy who feeds a fat woman to make her even fatter. They get excited by the idea of the woman expanding. Women who are willing to get larger are called feedees.

[Coach is Back!]

In the BBW community a feeder is a guy who feeds a fat woman to make her even fatter. They get excited by the idea of the woman expanding. Women who are willing to get larger are called feedees.

So I guess in today’s world you’d identify as a “feedee”?

[Vince B]

So I guess in today’s world you’d identify as a “feedee”?

Shortassed remark for sure.

[Da Freak]

This was called "muscle spinning" in the very old days.

Nothing new.

Those gains you made in  size will disappear like a flash if you stop pumping them.  It is all muscle goo.

typical GetBig IQ range brilliantly represented in this post.