Congratulations. You just reaffirmed your right to choose.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach deals in debunked theories.  That is the substance of the delusional world that he lives in.

Sure it was. Can’t remember the last time liberals were right on literally anything

[mazrim]

How selfish...  because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....   


It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth.   They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life.  Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that.  But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.

A lot of your posts sound like you are very angry/bitter/life is not so good. Maybe you should be murdered? Extremely dumb argument. Yep, let's take a life because the child MIGHT have difficulties in life.

Guessing you've never heard of foster care, adoption, etc.

[Tapeworm]

Foster kids are usually mismanufactured units.  The 'mothers' are full of alcohol and drugs, and not just for one birth.  They do it over and over.  There's a quiet factory at the bottom of society pumping out these FASD violent dimbulbs 24 hours a day.

No law against that, I guess.  

[Humble Narcissist]

How selfish...  because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....   


It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth.   They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life.  Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that.  But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.

You are truly an idiot but at least we know you are for killing babies as well.

[myt1]

Are you even partway serious?
Teminations are only normally performed in the first trimester, so chances of going into labor are almost zero (given the foetus is under 12weeks  old)
Chances of it survival if bornsix months premature, even less, so there is no need to choke it out, its  DOA prety much.
Also, what part of choking a new born to death is lawful in any part of the world?
Hope this clarifies the confusion.

Kannibal,  I'm slightly right-leaning but I am very much an Independent.  I am actually pro-choice regarding abortion.......but up to a rational fucking point!  I think until the end of the 1st trimester is rational.  HOWEVER, you need to probably watch the link, and do some searching as well on what's being by Dems cuz it's bananas bro.

Dude, I'm not sure if the link posted by the OP is the same guy, but the name is familiar.  I tried to find the clip I saw with Crowder discussing this over on his YT channel for you, but it must have been a segment ripped from one of his podcasts and posted on another tuber's channel.

This Dr., who I think is a politician as well is on video doing a radio interview about this bill.  He's asked what if the child was out of the womb, and the umbilical cord was still attached?  Would the bill allow that, and what is his opinion?  He states that at that point the mother and Dr. could then have a conversation as to whether or not to terminate the "pregnancy" and that yes that would be OK.

Now do you think me and the other poster were being total morons regarding our banter, or that we were just trying to illustrate how absurd this bill(s) is(are)?

I respectfully would like to read your response.  You can find the vids if you think I'm just a Trumptard and respond later, but that is what's being said.  You really can just reply even as though I were typing something that was my own hypothetical situation. 

SO....Based on my words you just read describing the Dr.'s opinion and that being ok, what is your opinion on that?

[LurkerNoMore]

A lot of your posts sound like you are very angry/bitter/life is not so good. Maybe you should be murdered? Extremely dumb argument. Yep, let's take a life because the child MIGHT have difficulties in life.

Guessing you've never heard of foster care, adoption, etc.

You are truly an idiot but at least we know you are for killing babies as well.

Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body?  Her choice.  Not yours. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Sure it was. Can’t remember the last time liberals were right on literally anything

Can't remember any time you were right on anything.  But then again, can't expect too much from a birther.

[myt1]

Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body?  Her choice.  Not yours.  

Lurker,

You can ignore the part I posted addressing Kannibal above your post I'm replying to here, but please read just the third section, and the question I asked him at the end and give your opinion on that.  

You don't even have to watch anything.  Just act as if that was my scenario I made up.  Is that ok, and still a woman's choice on her body?

[Humble Narcissist]

Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body?  Her choice.  Not yours. 

A born baby is her body?

[Griffith]

Call it what you want, a baby is still getting killed. A human, a person is being deprived of life.

The legal term is 'unborn foetus'.

I'm not saying women should not have a choice, but it is what it is, killing a baby, depriving someone of their chance of life.

Personally, I could never do it.

Are the people who do this not haunted by guilt? Some people talk like it's no big deal at all, like human life is worth nothing and there is no true value to anything.

[oldgolds]

Doctor Anthony Levatino testifying before Congress. The first two minutes is enough.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4554570/dr-anthony-levatinos-testimony

Liberals tout themselves as champions of the powerless...lol....yeah sure...I would certainly call a tiny, innocent baby powerless...

[myt1]

Call it what you want, a baby is still getting killed. A human, a person is being deprived of life.

The legal term is 'unborn foetus'.

I'm not saying women should not have a choice, but it is what it is, killing a baby, depriving someone of their chance of life.

Personally, I could never do it.

Are the people who do this not haunted by guilt? Some people talk like it's no big deal at all, like human life is worth nothing and there is no true value to anything.

Forcing someone to have a child that is not ready, capable, or didn't want (rape/incest) to bring a child into the world seems much crueler to me knowing that child and the parent will likely suffer in some form.

It takes a sperm and an egg to create life.  So if a couple takes precautions and still ends up pregnant, should they have no choice but to spend $250K+ (the reported avg.)raising a child they didn't want and/or weren't financially able to support the next 18+ yrs?  Keep in mind, they're also not likely to be very good parents to something they resent/regret, and that child is likely going to know the parents feel that way.  

What's your view on the morning after pill?

I know this is a shitty and kind of cruel analogy, but most would agree that a rose/pick your favorite flower is beautiful and vibrant once it has fully bloomed.  If someone stomped and smashed a rose in front of you with their foot most peeps would likely think that person was an asshole.  However, if the rose hadn't bloomed yet and a person broke the stem in half which killed the rose from blooming no one would give a shit 'cuz they never saw it's beauty anyway.  Again, fucked up a bit, but you see what I'm getting at.

[pellius]

How selfish...  because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....   


It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth.   They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life.  Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that.  But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.

Just completely ignore the fact that there is a long waiting list for couples wanting to adopt new borns.

You prefer to kill them. Piece by piece if necessary.

[Megalodon]

 

[LurkerNoMore]

A born baby is her body?

A baby is born without her body?

Just completely ignore the fact that there is a long waiting list for couples wanting to adopt new borns.

You prefer to kill them. Piece by piece if necessary.

If that were the case, then why are orphanages still full of kids?  Where's that long waiting list for couples? 

[pellius]

A baby is born without her body?

If that were the case, then why are orphanages still full of kids?  Where's that long waiting list for couples? 

Sigh...

There is a waiting list, my neighbor waited almost two years, to adopt a NEW BORN.

Please, Lurker, try to keep up.

[Griffith]

Forcing someone to have a child that is not ready, capable, or didn't want (rape/incest) to bring a child into the world seems much crueler to me knowing that child and the parent will likely suffer in some form.

It takes a sperm and an egg to create life.  So if a couple takes precautions and still ends up pregnant, should they have no choice but to spend $250K+ (the reported avg.)raising a child they didn't want and/or weren't financially able to support the next 18+ yrs?  Keep in mind, they're also not likely to be very good parents to something they resent/regret, and that child is likely going to know the parents feel that way.  

What's your view on the morning after pill?

I know this is a shitty and kind of cruel analogy, but most would agree that a rose/pick your favorite flower is beautiful and vibrant once it has fully bloomed.  If someone stomped and smashed a rose in front of you with their foot most peeps would likely think that person was an asshole.  However, if the rose hadn't bloomed yet and a person broke the stem in half which killed the rose from blooming no one would give a shit 'cuz they never saw it's beauty anyway.  Again, fucked up a bit, but you see what I'm getting at.

I'm not against people having the choice to have an abortion, and do not think it should be made illegal. I'm aware of the different individual circumstances and problems, and the reality of the world we live in.

Banning abortions would just lead to dangerous back-room abortions and other social problems.

However, the act of abortion should not be glossed over, it is what it is, the legal killing of a human, preventing a person from their chance of life.

[myt1]

I'm not against people having the choice to have an abortion, and do not think it should be made illegal. I'm aware of the different individual circumstances and problems, and the reality of the world we live in.

Banning abortions would just lead to dangerous back-room abortions and other social problems.

However, the act of abortion should not be glossed over, it is what it is, the legal killing of a human, preventing a person from their chance of life.

Fair enough. 

I admit I'm slightly conflicted about the when is it a human part though?  I'm pro-choice for many of the same reasons you list, but I do think there's a line that needs to be drawn.  I feel 3 months is more than enough time to not only realize a woman is pregnant, but to weigh out whether to have a child or not.  I'm talking about clearly visible when I say this... but once you can see little hands and feet and the fetus changing positions then you're talking about yanking out an actual baby/human.  I've never had a child so maybe that happens earlier than the end of 3 months?

This shit where this guy is on record saying it's ok for a woman and her Dr. to have a conversation about terminating the pregnancy while the baby is on the table with the umbilical cord still attached is just pure fucking evil.  There is now visual and physical proof sitting right there that a new human has entered the world.  Calling an actual murder an abortion is madness.   I've never gotten worked up, and taken sides or considered who I'd vote for based on abortion until this.

Thanks for the reply.

[Fortress]

Ultimately, and unfortunately, the requirement will be forced sterilizations.

Society cannot sustain a disproportionate amount of pregnancies/births from the garbage faction of humanity.

[pellius]

Again, for the purposes of this discussion, we are talking about a third-trimester abortion. Where a viable fetus is able to live outside the mother all the way up until birth, is allowed to be put to death. Yes, put to death because it's alive and able to live outside the womb.

"My bill would allow that, yes."

https://www.liveaction.org/news/virginia-democrat-abortion-bill-labor/

[AbrahamG]

Pretty sure you were the guy on the politics board who doesn't understand the difference between conception and semen...

Pretty sure you are too stupid for words.  Or at the very least, sarcasm is wasted on you.

[mazrim]

Pretty sure you are too stupid for words.  Or at the very least, sarcasm is wasted on you.

Gotcha, so you were just too stupid multiple times over to reply to the question asked of you with something other than the wrong answer? You can always go back and do it.

At this point, all we know is that you don't know the difference, Dumbo. A lot of people are sarcastic to deflect from lack of understanding when they are caught having infantile knowledge on a subject. You are just one of many, Bud.

[AbrahamG]

Gotcha, so you were just too stupid multiple times over to reply to the question asked of you with something other than the wrong answer? You can always go back and do it.

At this point, all we know is that you don't know the difference, Dumbo. A lot of people are sarcastic to deflect from lack of understanding when they are caught having infantile knowledge on a subject. You are just one of many, Bud.

I actually feel empathy for you.

[LurkerNoMore]

Sigh...

There is a waiting list, my neighbor waited almost two years, to adopt a NEW BORN.

Please, Lurker, try to keep up.

The number of kids in orphanages, foster homes and adoption centers are vastly greater than any "waiting list".  How long your neighbor had to wait means nothing.  What's the matter?   They would not consider anything other than a NEW BORN?   "Please try to keep up"

[pellius]

The number of kids in orphanages, foster homes and adoption centers are vastly greater than any "waiting list".  How long your neighbor had to wait means nothing.  What's the matter?   They would not consider anything other than a NEW BORN?   "Please try to keep up"

It may seem strange to you but a married couple would vastly prefer adopting a baby than someone older. The reasons are many. One would be to have the full experience of raising a child from an infant to adulthood. Also, there is a greater likelihood that there may be more personal and emotional issues to deal with when dealing with a child from a foster home or orphanage. You may consider this selfish but the choice isn't about a baby and an orphan child but a baby and death. It would be great if everyone was so generous and tolerant that they would adopt all the children in foster homes and orphanages.

To claim that a long waiting list means nothing shows your ignorance in the basic principle of supply and demand. The reason why they had to wait so long was because the demand is so high. There were a lot of couples ahead of them. Not killing a fetus would increase the supply of babies to adopt.