Congratulations. You just reaffirmed your right to choose.

[Megalodon]

$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:  

[myt1]

$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:  

I'm not gonna lie.  I came close to crying around the 10 minute mark when the ultrasound was being done, and she started describing her baby...movement, smiling, yawning, expressions.....wow.  Very powerful!

[myt1]

Again, for the purposes of this discussion, we are talking about a third-trimester abortion. Where a viable fetus is able to live outside the mother all the way up until birth, is allowed to be put to death. Yes, put to death because it's alive and able to live outside the womb.

"My bill would allow that, yes."

https://www.liveaction.org/news/virginia-democrat-abortion-bill-labor/

Thank you for posting this.  I had already seen the crazy woman's testimony.  I scrolled down expecting that Dr. LeVatino's video was going to be the guy I mentioned in one of my first posts that Crowder had the clip of him saying a baby out of the womb with umbilical cord attached was still ok to have a conversation with the mother about terminating the pregnancy at that point.  It appears he is the same guy mentioned in the OP's post that I refused to watch.  

After clicking your link and watching his vid, I realized I was wrong.  I went back and watched the OP's link (it was tough to listen to), and Dr. LeVatino is clearly against this and went to great lengths to graphically detail how sickening an abortion was just in the second trimester let alone the third.  The video he showed to the court/congress with a girl inquiring if she could get an abortion, and the staff instructions along with them almost chuckling at points makes me wonder how someone spends money for school to be a nurse or a Dr., and ends up doing this for a living without being a purely evil piece of shit.  It just can't be possible they are good humans with any morality whatsoever. Unfortunately, those people weren't aborted before they could grow up to become monsters.  Fortunately, there is a special place in hell for them when they are wiped off of this Earth......hopefully, in a very slow, tortuous, and painful manner in which their suffering is only a tiny pre-cursor to what they realize as they die will be their eternal afterlife.

I apologize for thinking and stating that this was the same guy I was mentioning.   I didn't want to view the O.P.'s link 'cuz I thought it was.  I wish I could find the Crowder clip with the correct guy that said those horrible things.  Not that it matters as you post, and Megaladon's on the next page should say enough.  I don't advocate for violence  normally, but I hope that person's life is completely destroyed.... whoever he is.  If it happens to be the result of a violent attack and torture that seems fair, and I'd happily look the other way.

It's clear that after a few of us have now pointed, posted quotes, article links, comics, and videos about what was/is really being said that those who were totally following liberal leader's rhetoric when stating they were ok with this bill are either really fucked up and refuse to read anything rational or factual, or they've read and/or watched it all come out and are too embarrassed to admit they are sickened as well, and are totally opposed to what these bills would really allow.  I hope it's the latter of the two.

Like I said earlier, this is the first time in my life abortion as ever been a trigger issue for me, and as an independent it will absolutely be something I look into each candidate's position on before voting in 2020.  I'm still pro-choice, but not this kind of choice

[pellius]

Thank you for posting this.  I had already seen the crazy woman's testimony.  I scrolled down expecting that Dr. LeVatino's video was going to be the guy I mentioned in one of my first posts that Crowder had the clip of him saying a baby out of the womb with umbilical cord attached was still ok to have a conversation with the mother about terminating the pregnancy at that point.  It appears he is the same guy mentioned in the OP's post that I refused to watch.  

After clicking your link and watching his vid, I realized I was wrong.  I went back and watched the OP's link (it was tough to listen to), and Dr. LeVatino is clearly against this and went to great lengths to graphically detail how sickening an abortion was just in the second trimester let alone the third.  The video he showed to the court/congress with a girl inquiring if she could get an abortion, and the staff instructions along with them almost chuckling at points makes me wonder how someone spends money for school to be a nurse or a Dr., and ends up doing this for a living without being a purely evil piece of shit.  It just can't be possible they are good humans with any morality whatsoever. Unfortunately, those people weren't aborted before they could grow up to become monsters.  Fortunately, there is a special place in hell for them when they are wiped off of this Earth......hopefully, in a very slow, tortuous, and painful manner in which their suffering is only a tiny pre-cursor to what they realize as they die will be their eternal afterlife.

I apologize for thinking and stating that this was the same guy I was mentioning.   I didn't want to view the O.P.'s link 'cuz I thought it was.  I wish I could find the Crowder clip with the correct guy that said those horrible things.  Not that it matters as you post, and Megaladon's on the next page should say enough.  I don't advocate for violence  normally, but I hope that person's life is completely destroyed.... whoever he is.  If it happens to be the result of a violent attack and torture that seems fair, and I'd happily look the other way.

It's clear that after a few of us have now pointed, posted quotes, article links, comics, and videos about what was/is really being said that those who were totally following liberal leader's rhetoric when stating they were ok with this bill are either really fucked up and refuse to read anything rational or factual, or they've read and/or watched it all come out and are too embarrassed to admit they are sickened as well, and are totally opposed to what these bills would really allow.  I hope it's the latter of the two.

Like I said earlier, this is the first time in my life abortion as ever been a trigger issue for me, and as an independent it will absolutely be something I look into each candidate's position on before voting in 2020.  I'm still pro-choice, but not this kind of choice

Do you mean the comments made by Virginia Democratic Governor, Ralph Northham, where he said that if or when the infant is delivered it would be kept "comfortable" (how compassionate) lying there on the table as the physician and mother would have a "discussion" whether or not to keep the baby alive or to crush it's skull right there as the newborn infant lies "comfortably" on the table waiting for its ultimate fate to be determined?

The moral confusion on the Left knows no bounds. PETA likens the killing of chickens to the Holocaust. My brother, currently stationed in Germany, had a recent problem with a rat. He wanted to buy one of those snap traps. He was told they don't sell that and that he is supposed to buy a trap that catches the rat alive and then he has to take it outside and set it free in any location he chooses. Presumably one more remote from his actual residence.

[myt1]

Do you mean the comments made by Virginia Democratic Governor, Ralph Northham, where he said that if or when the infant is delivered it would be kept "comfortable" (how compassionate) lying there on the table as the physician and mother would have a "discussion" whether or not to keep the baby alive or to crush it's skull right there as the newborn infant lies "comfortably" on the table waiting for its ultimate fate to be determined?

The moral confusion on the Left knows no bounds. PETA likens the killing of chickens to the Holocaust. My brother, currently stationed in Germany, had a recent problem with a rat. He wanted to buy one of those snap traps. He was told they don't sell that and that he is supposed to buy a trap that catches the rat alive and then he has to take it outside and set it free in any location he chooses. Presumably one more remote from his actual residence.

Thank you again Pellius!  That is exactly the evil fucker I was talking about, and the exact clip Crowder showed in his video!

Notice how even the liberal media host.....a woman....cringes her eyes, and looks him up and down as he gets to that part of his answer as if she's thinking "what kind of sick psychopath are you?"  Voices can lie, the eyes and body language are hard to disguise one's true thoughts.

I am going to try and find a longer version of this tomorrow, now that you provided his name.  I want to see if this woman reacted from a human and motherly instinct that is biologically inherent, or if she just did her job and towed the company line?

Thanks again!

[AbrahamG]

$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:  

Not interested in watching the video but hard to deny this broad has a great set of tits.  In the spirit of Big Mike Cox - Raw, No Condom, No Pull Out!

[LurkerNoMore]

It may seem strange to you but a married couple would vastly prefer adopting a baby than someone older. The reasons are many. One would be to have the full experience of raising a child from an infant to adulthood. Also, there is a greater likelihood that there may be more personal and emotional issues to deal with when dealing with a child from a foster home or orphanage. You may consider this selfish but the choice isn't about a baby and an orphan child but a baby and death. It would be great if everyone was so generous and tolerant that they would adopt all the children in foster homes and orphanages.

To claim that a long waiting list means nothing shows your ignorance in the basic principle of supply and demand. The reason why they had to wait so long was because the demand is so high. There were a lot of couples ahead of them. Not killing a fetus would increase the supply of babies to adopt.

That right there indicates why they had to wait so long.  Certainly not because the demand for adoption was so high that adoption centers and foster homes were sitting empty.  Their 2 year wait was due to them being picky, not because there was a "waiting list".  They could have adopted a 2, 3, or 10 year old.

My statement stands on it's merit.  If they had to wait so long, it is by their own doing and not because there was no other choices.  Pretty nice that people want do adopt cuddly little new borns but yet don't give a shit when it comes to feeding, educating, or insuring the others who are simply older.

[mazrim]

I actually feel empathy for you.

Lol, embarrassingly dumb.

[ProudVirgin69]

Abortions will happen, regardless of them being legal or illegal.  Best to keep them safe, legal, and rare IMO.

It would be nice to see more funding providing no-cost birth control to everyone.

[pellius]

That right there indicates why they had to wait so long.  Certainly not because the demand for adoption was so high that adoption centers and foster homes were sitting empty.  Their 2 year wait was due to them being picky, not because there was a "waiting list".  They could have adopted a 2, 3, or 10 year old.

My statement stands on it's merit.  If they had to wait so long, it is by their own doing and not because there was no other choices.  Pretty nice that people want do adopt cuddly little new borns but yet don't give a shit when it comes to feeding, educating, or insuring the others who are simply older.

Wrong. They're choice is adopting a newborn.

You may call them " picky" for wanting a newborn but so what? The issue here is why kill a fetus when it can easily be adopted? You prefer having the option of killing a viable fetus, ripping it out limb by limb if necessary. Crushing its skull as it lays (comfortably) on a table. I get that. There's a lot of people like you. You think it's selfish that couples want to adopt "cuddly little new borns". We think it's selfish, and evil, that you want to kill them.

That's why we fight.

[pellius]

Abortions will happen, regardless of them being legal or illegal.  Best to keep them safe, legal, and rare IMO.

It would be nice to see more funding providing no-cost birth control to everyone.

That applies to EVERYTHING!

Murder still happens even though it's illegal.

When you make something legal and acceptable you get more of it.

What a society allows, what it deems legal and acceptable, is a testament on what kind of society and culture it is.

There are/were societies and cultures that allowed for human sacrifices. We consider those primitive and barbaric.

What kind of society do you want to live in?

[LurkerNoMore]

Wrong. They're choice is adopting a newborn.

You may call them " picky" for wanting a newborn but so what? The issue here is why kill a fetus when it can easily be adopted? You prefer having the option of killing a viable fetus, ripping it out limb by limb if necessary. Crushing its skull as it lays (comfortably) on a table. I get that. There's a lot of people like you. You think it's selfish that couples want to adopt "cuddly little new borns". We think it's selfish, and evil, that you want to kill them.

That's why we fight.

Wrong.  They waited so long because they were picky.  Not because there was not an overwhelming alternative selection at the adoption homes.    So don't cry about some kind of "waiting list" while trying to downplay the fact that there are tons of other kids in the system waiting for parents.  What happened to those fetus?  Where were the waiting list for those years ago?

[pellius]

Wrong.  They waited so long because they were picky.  Not because there was not an overwhelming alternative selection at the adoption homes.    So don't cry about some kind of "waiting list" while trying to downplay the fact that there are tons of other kids in the system waiting for parents.  What happened to those fetus?  Where were the waiting list for those years ago?

Didn't you read my post? Yes, couples are picky as to whom they want to raise and support for their entire lives. So what? But again, and please pay attention, the choice is not between a newborn and a child in an orphanage, but a newborn and death. That's a choice and option the couple wants. Why kill a newborn when there are tons of "picky" couples waiting to adopt them?

Again, you think these couples are selfish and picky for choosing to adopt a newborn instead of someone in an orphanage. We think you are selfish and evil for preferring these viable fetuses to be murdered (define as the premeditated taking of an innocent human life).

I am not looking for agreement. Just clarity. We already know what side you are on. You know what side I am on. Neither of us are going to change our minds. You're on the Left and I'm on the Right. I want people to see what the two sides represent and let them decide for themselves.

[Humble Narcissist]

Didn't you read my post? Yes, couples are picky as to whom they want to raise and support for their entire lives. So what? But again, and please pay attention, the choice is not between a newborn and a child in an orphanage, but a newborn and death. That's a choice and option the couple wants. Why kill a newborn when there are tons of "picky" couples waiting to adopt them?

Again, you think these couples are selfish and picky for choosing to adopt a newborn instead of someone in an orphanage. We think you are selfish and evil for preferring these viable fetuses to be murdered (define and the premeditated taking of an innocent human life).

I am not looking for agreement. Just clarity. We already know what side you are on. You know what side I am on. Neither of us are going to change our minds. You're on the Left and I'm on the Right. I want people to see what the two sides represent and let them decide for themselves.

Pellius, you're arguing with someone who believes in infanticide.  Don't waste your time.

[pellius]

Pellius, you're arguing with someone who believes in infanticide.  Don't waste your time.

I do it because I think it's important to present and clarify the positions. People don't really think issues through. Liberal ideology presents well in catchphrases. Like "guns kill". If we get rid of guns there would be no shootings.

When you take it at face valued that's true. But when forced to think about it is it realistic to think you can eliminate guns from the planet?

Most people don't really consider what actually goes on in a late-term abortion.
They are so far removed from it. It's the "women's choice" makes sense on the surface. 

The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes when the choice is between newborns and death. He wants to diminish potential parents as being "too picky" but obscure the very real act of killing them instead.

I just want people to see that.

[Humble Narcissist]

I do it because I think it's important to present and clarify the positions. People don't really think issues through. Liberal ideology presents well in catchphrases. Like "guns kill". If we get rid of guns there would be no shootings.

When you take it at face valued that's true. But when forced to think about it is it realistic to think you can eliminate guns from the planet?

Most people don't really consider what actually goes on in a late-term abortion.
They are so far removed from it. It's the "women's choice" makes sense on the surface. 

The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes when the choice is between newborns and death. He wants to diminish potential parents as being "too picky" but obscure the very real act of killing them instead.

I just want people to see that.

Understood.

[LurkerNoMore]

Didn't you read my post?

Didn't you read my post?

I am disputing your claim that people are waiting for years to adopt because of a "waiting list".    No, they are waiting because they are being picky.  Not because there are no other options or alternatives for them.

[Tapeworm]

I can get you a white baby in 24 hours, baby.

[Coach is Back!]

You don’t get much more fucked up than this...


https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/31/legislator-behind-bill-legalizing-abortions-up-to-birth-filed-bill-to-save-caterpillars-the-same-day/

[pellius]

Didn't you read my post?

I am disputing your claim that people are waiting for years to adopt because of a "waiting list".    No, they are waiting because they are being picky.  Not because there are no other options or alternatives for them.

Didn't you understand my post? You think couples are being selfish for wanting a newborn that is going to be murdered.
You prefer the newborn be murdered. You talk as if couples only adopted orphans we would no longer have newborns to kill.

That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe.

You support the killing of a newborn lying, " comfortably" on a table rather than having "picky" parents adopt them.  Am I right or wrong?

[Conker]

The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes
I just want people to see that.

he didn't "redirect the argument" you idiot. you were the one that brought up adoption and waiting lists.

You talk as if couples only adopted orphans we would no longer have newborns to kill.

no he's not, he said if adopting couples weren't so choosy there wouldn't be waiting lists for adoption

you're as thick as sht pedogook.

[Megalodon]

This "Black Pilled" video breaks down Ciderhouse Rules and does a great job showing how Hollywood made knifing your offspring empowering to the same people whose numbers are now declining(wonder how that happened?) and are currently passively undergoing an orchestrated replacement throughout Europe. Meanwhile, Israel begins construction of a new Gaza border barrier which Americans are funding in lieu of their own border because "walls are immoral" and "walls don't work" slogans work on the hypnotized(link). How foolish, manipulated, and self-destructive can people of European descent continue to be?

https://www.france24.com/en/20190203-israel-begins-construction-new-gaza-border-barrier

[LurkerNoMore]

he didn't "redirect the argument" you idiot. you were the one that brought up adoption and waiting lists.

Exactly!   Oh.... they have to wait two years because they are so picky and only want to adopt a certain kind at a certain age....    Let's just ignore the others that are a different kind and different age...  and just focus on the WAITING LIST because by golly that is all the matters.  This is not a waiting list before a kid enters the system and is able to be adopted... there are plenty there...  it's a waiting list for people with specific criteria because they are PICKY.... (probably why God decided they shouldn't reproduce in the first place)

It's like if I went down to the pound and was hell bent on only getting a newborn husky with blue eyes.  If there was none, then when I got home everyone asked "did you get anything?"  and I'm like "no they didn't have anything."  They had plenty.  Just because they didn't have what I want doesn't mean the shelter was empty.

As far as the laughable statement "That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe."  This only shows how delusional the argument from pellius really is. 

Again, all these conservatives want to whine about being pro life, but they are really only pro birth.  Once the birth is over, they don't want to feed, educate or insure those infants that fall through the cracks.

[pellius]

Exactly!   Oh.... they have to wait two years because they are so picky and only want to adopt a certain kind at a certain age....    Let's just ignore the others that are a different kind and different age...  and just focus on the WAITING LIST because by golly that is all the matters.  This is not a waiting list before a kid enters the system and is able to be adopted... there are plenty there...  it's a waiting list for people with specific criteria because they are PICKY.... (probably why God decided they shouldn't reproduce in the first place)

It's like if I went down to the pound and was hell bent on only getting a newborn husky with blue eyes.  If there was none, then when I got home everyone asked "did you get anything?"  and I'm like "no they didn't have anything."  They had plenty.  Just because they didn't have what I want doesn't mean the shelter was empty.

As far as the laughable statement "That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe."  This only shows how delusional the argument from pellius really is. 

Again, all these conservatives want to whine about being pro life, but they are really only pro birth.  Once the birth is over, they don't want to feed, educate or insure those infants that fall through the cracks.

Don't want to take care of children after they are born? What do you call orphanages and foster homes? And you, the Left, obfuscate the issue. No one reading this honesty believes my focus is on any waiting list. It is on the killing of newborns and fetuses. You are being patently dishonest.

But at least I've been able to clearly establish your position on this issue and allow others to see how you and I reason and come to our beliefs.

I leave it to others to come to their own conclusion as the newborn lies "comfortably" on a table as we have a discussion if we want it to live or crush its skull with a pair of medical pliers. I'm sure it will be done with maximal comfort to the newborn child.

[myt1]

You don’t get much more fucked up than this...


https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/31/legislator-behind-bill-legalizing-abortions-up-to-birth-filed-bill-to-save-caterpillars-the-same-day/

Someone needs to make a meme out of that pic of her in the article looking at her notes/book that says, "Priorities:  Sometimes even your notes are in the wrong order"