The Three Big Myths of Bodybuilding?

[SF1900]

Are the Three Big Myths of Bodybuilding, the constant pushing of the squat, deadlift, and bench press. Other than being a competitive lifter, are these lifts necessary to be fit, healthy, and athletic?








The Squat Is Overrated

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-squat-is-overrated

[Humble Narcissist]

No.

[Coach is Back!]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

[illuminati]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

Exactly right According to many on here
All Drugs
No Training
No Diet
No Rest
No Motivation
No Discipline
Nothing Nada just do zero & take Drugs. 

[Bevo]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

At least 99 percent of the public sees it that way, must really bother bbers having to explain all the time when questioned 

[Coach is Back!]

At least 99 percent of the public sees it that way, must really bother bbers having to explain all the time when questioned 

Because 99% of the public don’t know any better

[funk51]

read what john c grimek had to say about the subject in this book.

[Royalty]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

Bodybuilding is at least 50% GENETICS

After that, drugs are the most important factor. 40% DRUGS

My reasoning: 1994. Dorian Yates tore his bicep 6 weeks prior to the Olympia. Because of the injury, he didn’t train his upper body during the final 6 weeks leading up to the show. And he won the show. He won the premier contest on the planet and he didn’t train his upper body for 6 weeks.

[Pray_4_War]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

Exactly right According to many on here
All Drugs
No Training
No Diet
No Rest
No Motivation
No Discipline
Nothing Nada just do zero & take Drugs. 

Then explain to me why lifetime natural bodybuilders all look like they are from Somalia after they go on a cut.   

[illuminati]

Then explain to me why lifetime natural bodybuilders all look like they are from Somalia after they go on a cut.   

Because they don’t use Drugs !!

 

[Henda]

The value of each of those excercises vary from person to person, I get a lot out of bench and deadlift but not so much out of squatting which just wrecked my knees, one of my mates who is shorter back when he was into training built massive legs from the squat as it suited his bulit well and he could perform them in a very efficient manner.

As for the importance of drugs yes they do work very well, the difference is someone who knows how to train and eat and built a good amount of muscle before starting gear will go a lot further and hold a lot more muscle on less gear than someone who blasts gear from the start, there are loads of blokes in gyms on 2-3 grams of gear a week with not much to show for it since they relied on gear heavily from the start.

a lad I know who jumped on the gear from day one was getting his brother to jab him with 4mm of various compounds every other day for his first contest and he looked like a stick insect, disgraceful for the amount of gear used

[chaos]

Are the Three Big Myths of Bodybuilding, the constant pushing of the squat, deadlift, and bench press. Other than being a competitive lifter, are these lifts necessary to be fit, healthy, and athletic?








The Squat Is Overrated

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-squat-is-overrated

You sound like you're trying to justify being a twink.
Are there things?

[oldtimer1]

Yes, push anything athletic endeavor to the limit and you can get hurt. What makes steroids a big part of it is that it accelerates your strength past the limits of your tendons and ligaments. Doing singles and doubles is a young man's gamble. Doing sets of 8 to 15 is safer but you will never get that big red line single just doing that. Seeing that bicep rip freaks me out because it happened to me. Took 6 months to regain my arm strength after the operation. The bicep was completely ripped off and rolled up to my delt. Safer to use a double over hand grip with a hook grip. Painful but safer.

[HTexan]

Are the Three Big Myths of Bodybuilding, the constant pushing of the squat, deadlift, and bench press. Other than being a competitive lifter, are these lifts necessary to be fit, healthy, and athletic?








The Squat Is Overrated

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-squat-is-overrated

Yes fuck the squat!

[Coach is Back!]

Are the Three Big Myths of Bodybuilding, the constant pushing of the squat, deadlift, and bench press. Other than being a competitive lifter, are these lifts necessary to be fit, healthy, and athletic?








The Squat Is Overrated

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-squat-is-overrated

Troll, but I'll humor you. The quick answer is yes.

[Hulkotron]

Is that Big Lenny in the first picture?

[Humble Narcissist]

Then explain to me why lifetime natural bodybuilders all look like they are from Somalia after they go on a cut.   

Exactly.  I love it how steroid users claim they would look almost as good with out the drugs but they never seem to prove it.

[Pray_4_War]

Exactly.  I love it how steroid users claim they would look almost as good with out the drugs but they never seem to prove it.

Some people talk about genetics all the time like that's the answer.  Let me tell you where genetics come into play........your response to anabolics. 

For a lifetime natty, genetics is almost irrelevant.  Even with so-called good genetics you are going to look like a skeleton when you cut.  We need to stop the bullshit.

[Pet shop boys]

You don’t need any of that. Bodybuilding is ALL drugs...remember 🤦‍♂️

Bodybuilding is all drugs .... but you do need squat to bring the quadriceps to their best shape/development ....  you might not even need anything less for legs (if you're on drugs)



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH  the icing

[oldtimer1]

Exactly.  I love it how steroid users claim they would look almost as good with out the drugs but they never seem to prove it.

When steroid users go off drugs they lose their physique. Suddenly their training knowledge and work ethic doesn't matter. Look at all the super stars off of drugs and how they look. Fans of drugs like to rationalize and say well they just stopped training. No, no matter what they do they would look very normal without the drug assist. I've heard many users say training is a waste of time off drugs. That statement says it all. I would like to see a former user like Shawn Ray, Levrone, Dillet say I will show you what I can do without drugs. Let them train hard for 4 months and lets see the results. It would be amazing to see them at 60% of what they were. I don't think they could do it.

[Bevo]

When steroid users go off drugs they lose their physique. Suddenly their training knowledge and work ethic doesn't matter. Look at all the super stars off of drugs and how they look. Fans of drugs like to rationalize and say well they just stopped training. No, no matter what they do they would look very normal without the drug assist. I've heard many users say training is a waste of time off drugs. That statement says it all. I would like to see a former user like Shawn Ray, Levrone, Dillet say I will show you what I can do without drugs. Let them train hard for 4 months and lets see the results. It would be amazing to see them at 60% of what they were. I don't think they could do it.

They will never do it. And if they do, they’ll lie about it and take “low dosages” and claim natural

Long term users cannot train clean, there’s no motivation, all the guys you listed here only trained serious when they were on. Levrone is a perfect example, he stated he didn’t have the drive and focus off season and would rather do other things like his “music career” but come show time, he’ll get serious and prep for 16-20 wks loaded up

After years and even decades on gear the everyday gym rat user will never come off, it’s an addiction, mental illness. If they do they rarely train or quit all together

Tom prince stated on here back in the day after his kidney issues, even while clean it would be impossible to go below 240 pounds   months later he was below 200, and after a year he looked 160-170 max in person

[oldgolds]

Bodybuilding is at least 50% GENETICS

After that, drugs are the most important factor. 40% DRUGS

My reasoning: 1994. Dorian Yates tore his bicep 6 weeks prior to the Olympia. Because of the injury, he didn’t train his upper body during the final 6 weeks leading up to the show. And he won the show. He won the premier contest on the planet and he didn’t train his upper body for 6 weeks.

I've seen lots of skinny little dudes get very big with drugs. Definitely drugs are the single biggest factor in building muscle and strength. If one wants to win bodybuilding contests then genetics is important. Symmetry etc.

[illuminati]

I've seen lots of skinny little dudes get very big with drugs. Definitely drugs are the single biggest factor in building muscle and strength. If one wants to win bodybuilding contests then genetics is important. Symmetry etc.

Very True

Only we all Knew or Were the Biggest / Strongest / Fastest kid at school
Were We all & The other Kids Taking Drugs back Then at that young age ?
Possibly- Also Very Likely Most were just Better Genetically Gifted.

Hey I’m open about the fact I’ve used & use PED’s I’m also realistic
That having a decent physique without PED’s is Hard to achieve only
It is Possible- No Not a National level Winning / Pro Bodybuilding Physique.

[beakdoctor]

By and large the notion that any one method of training or exercise is necessary to achieve results is horseshit.

Example being HIT guys another example is saying squats/benching is absolutely necessary....

The most important thing is diet.
The next most important thing is consistency in whatever type of training you engage in.


Just about everything else is myth. Except for drugs. Drugs work.

[Griffith]

As Sergio Oliva used to say 'squats make everything grow'