Sarcopenia - Age Related Muscle Loss

[karasan]

The human body is very resilient.

She must have had good genes too.

Amen to that, my brother ate fastfood every single day, smoke one and half pack a day, bottles of “diet”coke, yo-yo diets, no exercise at all.
Died in his sleep at 38 from massive cardiac attack, I wouldn’t last that long

[usmcdevildoc]

I beg to differ. Arms and legs don't have much fat on them. I can assure you that staying lean at my age is difficult. Why? Well, meals come with dessert and

I like Pepsi. However, when I train my arms I am getting stronger. You have to agree that fat can't lift weight! I use way more plates than I did decades ago.

I honestly didn't expect to be able to trigger hypertrophy at my age. I will be 77 in September. The workouts are so difficult that I can manage once a week training.

My triceps are larger than when I was competing. There you are. Here is a casual photo so no pump. I admit my waist is too big. 

Old fuck. The answer is anti-myostatin.

[myt1]

The human body is very resilient.

She must have had good genes too.

Did you read the last line that I separated from all of that?

Not sure if she's still around, but there's still some truth to your post despite that fact she did end up with colon cancer, and has likely passed. 

The fact that she was healthy til her mid 40's with all those bad habits is pretty astonishing.

[IroNat]

Did you read the last line that I separated from all of that?

Not sure if she's still around, but there's still some truth to your post despite that fact she did end up with colon cancer, and has likely passed. 

The fact that she was healthy til her mid 40's with all those bad habits is pretty astonishing.

Yes, but the colon cancer might have been unrelated to her unhealthy lifestyle.

She might have died from it no matter what.

[Primemuscle]

I'd totally agree with you based on my experience with someone I was close to:

My manager at one job would bring in a 12 pack of diet coke every day.  She would wipe it out in 6-8 hours...if gone b4 she was to leave, she'd go to the food court and get a huge styro cup from the chinese place in the food court...probably 44-56oz size. I was floored after the first week working with her. 

Her mood didn't change at all.  Very cool lady.  Funny, calm, and spoke at a normal rate......you'd think with that amount of caffeine she'd be going crazy, but nope.  As I got to get more comfortable with her and know her better, I started giving her shit about drinking that much especially since she would rarely eat even one meal while there.  That's when I really freaked out, as she informed me she would have 2-3 cups of coffee in the morning with some toast(she'd often get a large plain coffee or two while at work as well), and that when she got home she'd have another 6-8 cans of diet coke while cooking dinner and leading until bed.  From dinner time to bed time her and her husband would split a 12 pack or a 24 pack of miller lite as well.  Dinner was her only real and consistent meal.  There's two things that will floor on top of that.  1) The job was me being assistant manager, and her the manager of a health food and supplement store 2) she was overweight, and that's when twin labs started selling metabolift and then ripped fuel.....she alternate between those two on top of all that other caffeine.  Never known any like her as a person, but also never anyone that could handle that much caffeine and then do ripped fuel which had ephedra to boot......she also got a lot of nicotine via a pack+ a day of marlboro menthols

She got colon cancer.  I've tried to track her down at different times over the years as we became very close....she was like a mother and great friend to me, but she does not come up so I'm thinking it got her.

It is amazing how much abuse many folks bodies can take and still keep going. My mom was a chain-smoker. She started smoking at 16. She managed to get to 61 before she died from emphysema. My wife mostly ignored her health issues for decades before it became impossible to do. And by then, everything was breaking down. When she passed the only properly functioning organ was her liver. Type II diabetes, especially when not managed beaks everything else down.

I don't think my wife's addiction to Pepsi had anything to do with a caffeine dependency. She just thought because it was a diet drink, it wouldn't hurt her.   

[myt1]

It is amazing how much abuse many folks bodies can take and still keep going. My mom was a chain-smoker. She started smoking at 16. She managed to get to 61 before she died from emphysema. My wife mostly ignored her health issues for decades before it became impossible to do. And by then, everything was breaking down. When she passed the only properly functioning organ was her liver. Type II diabetes, especially when not managed beaks everything else down.

I don't think my wife's addiction to Pepsi had anything to do with a caffeine dependency. She just thought because it was a diet drink, it wouldn't hurt her.  

Yeah, it is amazing.  I've done a lot of bad things for my body over the years.  Some for long periods of time.  A while back a girl at the place I tan thought I was around her age (30).  I laughed my ass off, and told her to look at my membership info as she didn't believe me when I told her how old I was turning a few days later.  She said, that's crazy you must have never drank or smoked or done any drugs.  I'm not gonna type all my personal shit on here, but I went on down the list for her to shock her some more.  Turns out even though she looks 20-22, she's had quite the past as well.

I got carded for just chew up until probably 36-38 yrs old.  Wish my insides were half as good as what people think of my age by my appearance.

[myt1]

Yes, but the colon cancer might have been unrelated to her unhealthy lifestyle.

She might have died from it no matter what.

That's true IroNat.

My dad hasn't smoked and rarely drank since he was probably about 28-30.  Around 66 he got the cancer bug.  Not lungs or mouth, but he asked the dr. if his smoking while in the service in Nam and into his 20's could have been the reason.  The dr. said it was unlikely, and asked him about our family background and his diet.  No one on his side of the family has ever had cancer. 

My dad's diet wasn't great, but not terrible.  He did however have a thing for hot dogs.  Every night he'd get home from work two hot dogs and some chips on the side if my mom hadn't cooked....which was the majority of the time.  Dr. said the likely culprit was the nitrates from the hot dogs and deli meats he ate since there was no family history.

And of course generation stubborn guy that he is, the fucker still eats hot dogs and deli meat more than anything else.

[Primemuscle]

Yeah, it is amazing.  I've done a lot of bad things for my body over the years.  Some for long periods of time.  A while back a girl at the place I tan thought I was around her age (30).  I laughed my ass off, and told her to look at my membership info as she didn't believe me when I told her how old I was turning a few days later.  She said, that's crazy you must have never drank or smoked or done any drugs.  I'm not gonna type all my personal shit on here, but I went on down the list for her to shock her some more.  Turns out even though she looks 20-22, she's had quite the past as well.

I got carded for just chew up until probably 36-38 yrs old.  Wish my insides were half as good as what people think of my age by my appearance.

Have you ever tried red light therapy? It's offered at some tanning salons. Supposedly, the process offers many health benefits. I does not make you more tan. For that you have to use a tanning bed or my preference, stand up tanning.

https://www.healthline.com/health/red-light-therapy








 

[Primemuscle]

That's true IroNat.

My dad hasn't smoked and rarely drank since he was probably about 28-30.  Around 66 he got the cancer bug.  Not lungs or mouth, but he asked the dr. if his smoking while in the service in Nam and into his 20's could have been the reason.  The dr. said it was unlikely, and asked him about our family background and his diet.  No one on his side of the family has ever had cancer.  

My dad's diet wasn't great, but not terrible.  He did however have a thing for hot dogs.  Every night he'd get home from work two hot dogs and some chips on the side if my mom hadn't cooked....which was the majority of the time.  Dr. said the likely culprit was the nitrates from the hot dogs and deli meats he ate since there was no family history.

And of course generation stubborn guy that he is, the fucker still eats hot dogs and deli meat more than anything else.

Some people are prone to cancer. It's possible that it's genetics more so than lifestyle choices. However the statistics indicate that this is true for only about 10% of folks who have cancer.

[myt1]

Have you ever tried red light therapy? It's offered at some tanning salons. Supposedly, the process offers many health benefits. I does not make you more tan. For that you have to use a tanning bed or my preference, stand up tanning.

https://www.healthline.com/health/red-light-therapy








 

I have heard and red about it.  Apparently you can buy small one's for your desktop IIRC.  I've never asked, but I've never seen the place I go advertise it there or via emails I get so I doubt they have it.

There are some gyms here that have it though.

[IroNat]

Yeah, it is amazing.  I've done a lot of bad things for my body over the years.  Some for long periods of time.  A while back a girl at the place I tan thought I was around her age (30).  I laughed my ass off, and told her to look at my membership info as she didn't believe me when I told her how old I was turning a few days later.  She said, that's crazy you must have never drank or smoked or done any drugs.  I'm not gonna type all my personal shit on here, but I went on down the list for her to shock her some more.  Turns out even though she looks 20-22, she's had quite the past as well.

I got carded for just chew up until probably 36-38 yrs old.  Wish my insides were half as good as what people think of my age by my appearance.

She was hitting on you, dude.

[IroNat]

UV tanning is not the wisest thing to do (skin cancer).  Plus it ages your skin.

Is that what you guys do or are you getting spray tans?

[myt1]

She was hitting on you, dude.

I was trying to be concise for a change (I can't win on here )...there's bit more to the story. That whole conversation came about because she was helping me sign up for a rewards program, and while typing I saw the rock on her finger.  Like I said, I thought she was early 20's, and I asked her "do you mind if I ask how old you are?"  she asked "why?" and I said "cuz you seem really young to be engaged."  She laughed and told me she was 30.  More conversation took place, and something made me drop the old man phrase "wait til you get to be my age" which made her look up from typing, and look me up and down to ask how old I was.  And the rest happened from there.  So my thought is she might have been being bit polite saying she thought I was 30, since I complimented her.  But she did double takes multiple times, that I believe she legit thought I was at least 10 yrs younger than I am, and since I'm nowhere near in the shape I used to be currently it made me feel like a rock star and was good motivation to keep working at "getting back to me."

And yeah, there's a definite spark there that even her co-worker has said she noticed.  But.....she has a ring.  I've played in another man's backyard b4 knowing it was wrong and that being something I'm totally opposed to but justified it by reminding myself that every first move from asking to go for drinks to the first "cum all over me" was initiated by her. I got my heart stomped on, and rightfully so while going against my gut and morals.  Would never do again, even though the sex was insane.  Now if I go in to tan and that ring is not there for more than one visit.....you bet your ass it's game on IroNat!!!

[Primemuscle]

UV tanning is not the wisest thing to do (skin cancer).  Plus it ages your skin.

Is that what you guys do or are you getting spray tans?

I tried the spray tan which ended up looking good for a day or so before turning orange. I can get them for no additional cost as part of my "Platinum" package. Tanning beds and tanning in the sun can both be damaging to the skin, including increasing the risk of skin cancer. The lighter complected someone is the greater the possibility damage happening. If you are going to tan take your normal skin tone into consideration. When you see people who look like fried bacon, you can bet they are over tanning. Some folks argue that a little exposure elevates your mood and increases your vitamin D levels which often drop considerably in the winter months. If you don't want to tan you can take a vitamin D supplement.

[IroNat]

I tried the spray tan which ended up looking good for a day or so before turning orange. I can get them for no additional cost as part of my "Platinum" package. Tanning beds and tanning in the sun can both be damaging to the skin, including increasing the risk of skin cancer. The lighter complected someone is the greater the possibility damage happening. If you are going to tan take your normal skin tone into consideration. When you see people who look like fried bacon, you can bet they are over tanning. Some folks argue that a little exposure elevates your mood and increases your vitamin D levels which often drop considerably in the winter months. If you don't want to tan you can take a vitamin D supplement.

Good advices.

Moderation in all things.

[falco]

Interesting video regarding how to keep muscles young, in mice at least: