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Boosting test after 40
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:42:40 PM »
I have a question for GB experts : being a natty old fart now 45 yo I would probably have the amount of test of a 13 yo girl I guess.

Do you think squats in the 12-15 rep range (at least 12 to 15 sets) can be helpful or a waste of time?


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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 02:43:50 PM »
Another “lame question” thread

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 03:02:03 PM »
The formula for how many reps of breathing squats to boost test is:

Nreps = 5.32*ln(Age/12)

where Age is your age in months.  You can apply an asymmetric t-distribution to get the rep range.

Thanks and good luck.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 03:07:22 PM »
I have a question for GB experts : being a natty old fart now 45 yo I would probably have the amount of test of a 13 yo girl I guess.

Do you think squats in the 12-15 rep range (at least 12 to 15 sets) can be helpful or a waste of time?


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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 03:19:33 PM »
I've never had bloodwork done to know if it really boosts test or not, but I've used Tribulus (I particulary like Ultimate Nutrition's) on and off for probably about 20 years.  A co-worker who was black asked me what I thought were good supps to take when he first started working out.  I told him vanadyl, creatine, AAKG, tribulus, and protein was the only things I thought were worth a shit (vitamins and EFA's aside)  

I explained that trib supposedly raised test, and that although I wasn't sure if that was true, I felt a bit stronger and slightly more aggressive in the gym when using 1500-2250mgs, and that if nothing else him and his wife would like it.  

Now remember, I've said here often that I hate today's hip-hop....it's unavoidable to hear it though.  I mention that, because a few weeks later he stopped by my cube, and thanked me for telling him about it.  I asked what he noticed, and he said he did feel stronger in the gym but that he mostly liked the bedroom side-effect.   I said "yeah, gets ya full mast and wanting to screw the Mrs. more right?"  He laughed, and replied something like "hell yeah!  Skeet, skeet, skeet like crazy"  The only time I'd ever heard that word was in that one hip-hop song, so I asked wtf that meant?  It was then that I learned that song was about shooting a load on a bitch.  I guess I got bro-splained.  I also did not know what  "super man that ho" was about until he explained that as well.

If you're ok with walking away from natty status, then Coach's post is the way to go.

I've used Now and Met-Rx's versions as well, but I think Ultimate's are better since their capsules vs. tabs.  Supposedly, Tribestan and Tribex are the best, but way too pricey for me.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 03:26:16 PM »
That probably isnt the question you need to ask.

Why do you want to increase your test levels?  Mood? Sex drive? Energy?

Exercise improves general feeling however it also wears you down.

Sleep quality fucks you up more than people realise and impacts hormones and how you feel.

Tell us what is bothering you and then we can pin point what might help because i can say right now, squats wont change anything in the overall picture.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 03:29:20 PM »
The formula for how many reps of breathing squats to boost test is:

Nreps = 5.32*ln(Age/12)

where Age is your age in months.  You can apply an asymmetric t-distribution to get the rep range.

Thanks and good luck.

What is this formula?

If you're 30 its 30×5.32 for rep tangle? Lol

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 03:37:01 PM »
At 45 you need testosterone replacement therapy? What the hell is going on with guys. You should be full of test at that age unless you have been juicing. 

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2019, 03:45:32 PM »
I've never had bloodwork done to know if it really boosts test or not, but I've used Tribulus (I particulary like Ultimate Nutrition's) on and off for probably about 20 years.  A co-worker who was black asked me what I thought were good supps to take when he first started working out.  I told him vanadyl, creatine, AAKG, tribulus, and protein was the only things I thought were worth a shit (vitamins and EFA's aside)  

I explained that trib supposedly raised test, and that although I wasn't sure if that was true, I felt a bit stronger and slightly more aggressive in the gym when using 1500-2250mgs, and that if nothing else him and his wife would like it.  

Now remember, I've said here often that I hate today's hip-hop....it's unavoidable to hear it though.  I mention that, because a few weeks later he stopped by my cube, and thanked me for telling him about it.  I asked what he noticed, and he said he did feel stronger in the gym but that he mostly liked the bedroom side-effect.   I said "yeah, gets ya full mast and wanting to screw the Mrs. more right?"  He laughed, and replied something like "hell yeah!  Skeet, skeet, skeet like crazy"  The only time I'd ever heard that word was in that one hip-hop song, so I asked wtf that meant?  It was then that I learned that song was about shooting a load on a bitch.  I guess I got bro-splained.  I also did not know what  "super man that ho" was about until he explained that as well.

If you're ok with walking away from natty status, then Coach's post is the way to go.

I've used Now and Met-Rx's versions as well, but I think Ultimate's are better since their capsules vs. tabs.  Supposedly, Tribestan and Tribex are the best, but way too pricey for me.

Wish I did not read that skeet shit as I hate hip hop lingo more than anything.thank you for not explaining that Superman crap.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2019, 03:50:03 PM »
I have a question for GB experts : being a natty old fart now 45 yo I would probably have the amount of test of a 13 yo girl I guess.

Do you think squats in the 12-15 rep range (at least 12 to 15 sets) can be helpful or a waste of time?


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You should have your test levels tested. At 40 years of age, it might be higher than you think. My total test is in the 200 to 300 range when not on TRT. -Not sure what my free test is, but supposedly that's the score that really counts.

Squats are a good all round exercise for good health. Use good form and only as much weight as you are comfortable handling. IMO, you should not rely on crutches, such as a weight belt or knee wraps. Save those for the power lifters.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2019, 04:19:33 PM »
Follow Coach's advices and see your local gym pusher for 'roids.

Not only will you get big but you might have a genetic pre-disposed stroke as a bonus.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
What exactly is the reasoning for being over 40 and not on TRT when you clearly FEEL the need for it?

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2019, 04:36:53 PM »
maybe there's dangers to trt?

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2019, 04:42:25 PM »
I'd rather deal with those POSSIBLE dangers than feel like shit.
It's Test...maybe a liberal doc will give him 200mg/week.
People have been taking multiple grams per week and are doing okay.
Not saying it's a good idea-- taking that much but-- 150 mg/week really doesn't appear to be a problem.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2019, 04:48:23 PM »
What exactly is the reasoning for being over 40 and not on TRT when you clearly FEEL the need for it?

Your own nuts will shut down permanently and since 40 year old men only extremely rarely need TRT this is not a good move.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 04:50:37 PM »
Follow Coach's advices and see your local gym pusher for 'roids.

Not only will you get big but you might have a genetic pre-disposed stroke as a bonus.

Horseshit. Damn, I really wish people would educate themselves more ::)


We're not talking full blown cycles, I'm talking about just HRT.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 04:52:50 PM »
since 40 year old men only extremely rarely need TRT this is not a good move.
Huh? extremely rarely? What??/
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=4508669&page=1

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 04:57:08 PM »
Wish I did not read that skeet shit as I hate hip hop lingo more than anything.thank you for not explaining that Superman crap.

LOL!  You're welcome!  It's actually the tamer of the two.

The kicker with that stuff for me is that in my early teens, my dad saw a 20/20 report about the playing rock albums backwards nonsense one evening.  The next afternoon, I came home from a fun day of skateboarding to find every poster of every rock/metal band on my walls torn down....some in pieces on the floor, and others stuffed into my trash can.  The only poster that remained was one of Def Leppard.  When I asked my mom what the fuck the deal was, she said my dad heard they were satanic.  AC/DC supposedly meant after christ/devil's child, KISS was knights in satan's service, Motley Crue cuz of the pentagram, and Judas Priest...well just the name, she said.  When I asked how the Def Leppard poster survived, she told me "I told him no, because I bought that for you last Christmas".  Nice to have a mom that draws a line in the sand.  :(  The even bigger kicker of that story is that years later we see "Gene Simmons Family Jewels"  show, and learn he's never done drugs or drank alcohol, and my dad wasn't 1/8 as involved in our lives as "The Demon" is with his kids. :P

This is all way off the topic of TRT, but what is so funny about today's hip-hop and the meanings of some of these songs is that since they are on pop radio, parents are actually driving their kids to school and all singing this shit out loud with them.....quality parent/child bonding time. :o  "to the windows, to wall.....make all these females crawl"....crawl away from a jizzfest that is.  Comical

As PetShopBoys would say....."Wooooooossssshhhhhhh"

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019, 05:14:09 PM »
Huh? extremely rarely? What??/
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=4508669&page=1


This is the most recent thing that popped up when searching for "how much have testosterone prescriptions increased".  The article is from 2013 with 2011 statistics.  Imagine what the percentages are today.  Keep in mind these numbers are talking about g.p.'s and endos, and don't include all the HRT clinics of today, nor do they count those who take treatment into their own hands via the black market.  (something I don't understand the risk of doing when so easy to get now)

https://www.livescience.com/37101-testosterone-therapy-prescription-increase.html
"Over the last decade, prescriptions for testosterone therapy among men ages 40 and older increased more than threefold, from0.81 percent in 2001, to nearly 3 percent in 2011, the study found."

I can't see as I type this reply, but I think IronNat said it was dangerous to shut yourself down.  I disagree wholeheartedly.  Many studies show the real danger is having minimal natural test production as naturally happens with age, which is compounded by the fact that estrogen levels are proportionately elevated or just flat out high.  Estrogen levels either too high or too low have been linked to early death (studied in patients with heart disease), and also thought to be the real trigger for the cancer gene being activated in the prostate...not elevated testosterone.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019, 05:24:48 PM »
Horseshit. Damn, I really wish people would educate themselves more ::)


We're not talking full blown cycles, I'm talking about just HRT.



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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 06:59:17 PM »
AC/DC supposedly meant after christ/devil's child

ac/dc stands for 'anti christ / devils children'

the entire 'music industry' is satanic.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019, 07:04:57 PM »
What exactly is the reasoning for being over 40 and not on TRT when you clearly FEEL the need for it?

Feelings lie.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2019, 07:08:38 PM »
I'd rather deal with those POSSIBLE dangers than feel like shit.
It's Test...maybe a liberal doc will give him 200mg/week.
People have been taking multiple grams per week and are doing okay.
Not saying it's a good idea-- taking that much but-- 150 mg/week really doesn't appear to be a problem.

My urologist reduced me to 1/2 ml. I balked at this, but I am doing fine. 1 - 1 1/2 mil was better though. Damn PSA.

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2019, 07:47:20 PM »
ac/dc stands for 'anti christ / devils children'

the entire 'music industry' is satanic.

I've heard both, but it stands for neither.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC

"The band's logo was designed in 1977 by Gerard Huerta. It first appeared on the international version of Let There Be Rock.
Malcolm and Angus Young developed the idea for the band's name after their sister, Margaret Young, saw the initials "AC/DC" on a sewing machine. "AC/DC" is an abbreviation meaning "alternating current/direct current" electricity. The brothers felt that this name symbolised the band's raw energy, power-driven performances of their music"

Hence "High Voltage" being their first release

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Re: Boosting test after 40
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 07:57:47 PM »
I've heard both, but it stands for neither.

sure... never mind the satanic imagery, symbolism and words, lol  ::)