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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2019, 01:59:35 PM »
Dude, you say some of the dumbest things on here, I hope youre just trolling.

He's playing at being stupid.  However, he is a cucktard so his IQ is just above Genovan level.  He thinks he's playing a game of "pull my finger" but reality is,  he's sharting his manties up with every ignorant remark.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2019, 02:05:17 PM »
Serious question:

If Amazon wants to help communities, why not move the headquarters to a down trodden state to try and drum up jobs?

NYC will clearly be fine without the Amazon headquarters. There are quite a few states that could probably benefit from the influx of jobs :::shrugs:::
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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2019, 02:05:39 PM »
He's playing at being stupid.  However, he is a cucktard so his IQ is just above Genovan level.  He thinks he's playing a game of "pull my finger" but reality is,  he's sharting his manties up with every ignorant remark.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2019, 02:06:14 PM »
Umm, just out of curiosity, isn't Amazon a huge job killer?

Isn't it the same company that puts many small-to-medium sized businesses out to pasture?

As per Trump:

"Trump has talked about changing Amazon’s tax treatment because he’s worried about mom-and-pop retailers being put out of business," reporter Jonathan Swan wrote a few days ago. "Trump's wealthy friends tell him Amazon is destroying their businesses. His real estate buddies tell him — and he agrees — that Amazon is killing shopping malls and brick-and-mortar retailers."

Further along in the article:

Indeed, while it's difficult to find good statistical evidence on the effect of Amazon and other online retailers on small companies, it is easy to see what devastation online shopping has brought to the large national chains. In the first eight months of 2017 alone, just over 6,400 retail chain stores closed their doors. In March, bankrupt Toys R Us began liquidating its 735 stores, and Mattress Firm announced it would close 175 stores, in addition to the 99 it has already closed so far this year.

-Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbmandelbaum/2018/03/31/is-amazon-good-or-bad-for-small-business-yes/#596251784467

Also, check out this interesting article: Amazon's growth could threaten these 10 industries

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-is-killing-these-7-companies-2017-7#grocery-stores-7

I think Amazon and companies like it can truly be devastating to small/medium sized businesses. I also think bigger chains have been taking a hit due to Amazon for many years. If you were to average the thousands of jobs the large chain stores  that have closed or are closing (as mentioned in the article above - 6,400 retail chain stores), would that number largely exceed the proposed 25K jobs Amazon was projecting to have available in NYC? In other words, as a nation, is an entity like Amazon causing us more harm than good?

As consumers, we appreciate how convenient it makes it for us to shop by simply logging in, purchasing and receiving a package by the next day, but it certainly fucks up the old brick and mortar businesses.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2019, 02:09:20 PM »
Serious question:

If Amazon wants to help communities, why not move the headquarters to a down trodden state to try and drum up jobs?

NYC will clearly be fine without the Amazon headquarters. There are quite a few states that could probably benefit from the influx of jobs :::shrugs:::


They opened a Amazon fulfillment center in near me , The biggest problem they had was finding people who could past the drug test.  ;D

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2019, 02:26:47 PM »
Umm, just out of curiosity, isn't Amazon a huge job killer?

Isn't it the same company that puts many small-to-medium sized businesses out to pasture?

As per Trump:

"Trump has talked about changing Amazon’s tax treatment because he’s worried about mom-and-pop retailers being put out of business," reporter Jonathan Swan wrote a few days ago. "Trump's wealthy friends tell him Amazon is destroying their businesses. His real estate buddies tell him — and he agrees — that Amazon is killing shopping malls and brick-and-mortar retailers."

Further along in the article:

Indeed, while it's difficult to find good statistical evidence on the effect of Amazon and other online retailers on small companies, it is easy to see what devastation online shopping has brought to the large national chains. In the first eight months of 2017 alone, just over 6,400 retail chain stores closed their doors. In March, bankrupt Toys R Us began liquidating its 735 stores, and Mattress Firm announced it would close 175 stores, in addition to the 99 it has already closed so far this year.

-Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbmandelbaum/2018/03/31/is-amazon-good-or-bad-for-small-business-yes/#596251784467

Also, check out this interesting article: Amazon's growth could threaten these 10 industries

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-is-killing-these-7-companies-2017-7#grocery-stores-7

I think Amazon and companies like it can truly be devastating to small/medium sized businesses. I also think bigger chains have been taking a hit due to Amazon for many years. If you were to average the thousands of jobs the large chain stores  that have closed or are closing (as mentioned in the article above - 6,400 retail chain stores), would that number largely exceed the proposed 25K jobs Amazon was projecting to have available in NYC? In other words, as a nation, is an entity like Amazon causing us more harm than good?

As consumers, we appreciate how convenient it makes it for us to shop by simply logging in, purchasing and receiving a package by the next day, but it certainly fucks up the old brick and mortar businesses.

"1"

As I previously said, the only two places to shop will be Walmart and Amazon.  ??? ???
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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2019, 02:27:34 PM »

They opened a Amazon fulfillment center in near me , The biggest problem they had was finding people who could past the drug test.  ;D

Yeah, but this was a headquarters, apparently filled with higher end positions.

Either way, eventually Amazon and Walmart will be the only two ways to shop.
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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2019, 02:28:38 PM »
Umm, just out of curiosity, isn't Amazon a huge job killer?

Isn't it the same company that puts many small-to-medium sized businesses out to pasture?

As per Trump:

"Trump has talked about changing Amazon’s tax treatment because he’s worried about mom-and-pop retailers being put out of business," reporter Jonathan Swan wrote a few days ago. "Trump's wealthy friends tell him Amazon is destroying their businesses. His real estate buddies tell him — and he agrees — that Amazon is killing shopping malls and brick-and-mortar retailers."

Further along in the article:

Indeed, while it's difficult to find good statistical evidence on the effect of Amazon and other online retailers on small companies, it is easy to see what devastation online shopping has brought to the large national chains. In the first eight months of 2017 alone, just over 6,400 retail chain stores closed their doors. In March, bankrupt Toys R Us began liquidating its 735 stores, and Mattress Firm announced it would close 175 stores, in addition to the 99 it has already closed so far this year.

-Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbmandelbaum/2018/03/31/is-amazon-good-or-bad-for-small-business-yes/#596251784467

Also, check out this interesting article: Amazon's growth could threaten these 10 industries

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-is-killing-these-7-companies-2017-7#grocery-stores-7

I think Amazon and companies like it can truly be devastating to small/medium sized businesses. I also think bigger chains have been taking a hit due to Amazon for many years. If you were to average the thousands of jobs the large chain stores  that have closed or are closing (as mentioned in the article above - 6,400 retail chain stores), would that number largely exceed the proposed 25K jobs Amazon was projecting to have available in NYC? In other words, as a nation, is an entity like Amazon causing us more harm than good?

As consumers, we appreciate how convenient it makes it for us to shop by simply logging in, purchasing and receiving a package by the next day, but it certainly fucks up the old brick and mortar businesses.

"1"

This is the nature of how the world works. People’s habits change so we evolve to satisfy those changes.  Jobs end and jobs are created it’s balanced, but you need to be able to evolve.

What’s the story here haven’t followed. Disgruntled communities over tax cuts to Amazon?

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2019, 02:30:47 PM »
He's playing at being stupid.  However, he is a cucktard so his IQ is just above Genovan level.  He thinks he's playing a game of "pull my finger" but reality is,  he's sharting his manties up with every ignorant remark.

come up with some new/original insults or are you playing at being stupid

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2019, 02:40:55 PM »
This is the nature of how the world works. People’s habits change so we evolve to satisfy those changes.  Jobs end and jobs are created it’s balanced, but you need to be able to evolve.

What’s the story here haven’t followed. Disgruntled communities over tax cuts to Amazon?

My concern is what happens to the displaced business owners and their employees? Will this merely serve to continue to increase our unemployment rates and further hurt our economy?

Jobs end and jobs are created is a simplified view though, isn't it? Consider the limited skill set and education that many of these individuals/workers in retail have and then tell us where they will go once companies like Amazon force their employers out of business. Unless amazon can replace the jobs lost with an equal amount of new jobs and guarantee work for the displaced employees, I think they'll end up on the unemployment line seeking financial assistance, which comes directly from our taxes.

I think NYC maybe has seen the devastating effects amazon has had on other cities and doesn't want to join in on the fun. In Jeff Bezos' world, he would love for people to be able to simply click away on their amazon app and never have to consider walking into an actual store to purchase good/services, but it's those same people that he wants money from that also need jobs in order to buy/use his companies products/services.

Put the average consumer out of work and you hurt the overall economy and ultimately yourself.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2019, 03:04:44 PM »
My concern is what happens to the displaced business owners and their employees? Will this merely serve to continue to increase our unemployment rates and further hurt our economy?

Jobs end and jobs are created is a simplified view though, isn't it? Consider the limited skill set and education that many of these individuals/workers in retail have and then tell us where they will go once companies like Amazon force their employers out of business. Unless amazon can replace the jobs lost with an equal amount of new jobs and guarantee work for the displaced employees, I think they'll end up on the unemployment line seeking financial assistance, which comes directly from our taxes.

I think NYC maybe has seen the devastating effects amazon has had on other cities and doesn't want to join in on the fun. In Jeff Bezos' world, he would love for people to be able to simply click away on their amazon app and never have to consider walking into an actual store to purchase good/services, but it's those same people that he wants money from that also need jobs in order to buy/use his companies products/services.

Put the average consumer out of work and you hurt the overall economy and ultimately yourself.

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This argument has been made throughout the ages and it never comes to fruition. By this logic, we never should have improved phone technology because it put switchboard operators out of work.

The answer is to have a dynamic economy and to allow progress to happen. Let dying industries get replaced by new ones. This way displaced workers have someplace to go.


This is the nature of how the world works. People’s habits change so we evolve to satisfy those changes.  Jobs end and jobs are created it’s balanced, but you need to be able to evolve.

What’s the story here haven’t followed. Disgruntled communities over tax cuts to Amazon?

Probably not enough union jobs to satisfy the local politicians.


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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2019, 03:22:46 PM »
My concern is what happens to the displaced business owners and their employees? Will this merely serve to continue to increase our unemployment rates and further hurt our economy?

Jobs end and jobs are created is a simplified view though, isn't it? Consider the limited skill set and education that many of these individuals/workers in retail have and then tell us where they will go once companies like Amazon force their employers out of business. Unless amazon can replace the jobs lost with an equal amount of new jobs and guarantee work for the displaced employees, I think they'll end up on the unemployment line seeking financial assistance, which comes directly from our taxes.

I think NYC maybe has seen the devastating effects amazon has had on other cities and doesn't want to join in on the fun. In Jeff Bezos' world, he would love for people to be able to simply click away on their amazon app and never have to consider walking into an actual store to purchase good/services, but it's those same people that he wants money from that also need jobs in order to buy/use his companies products/services.

Put the average consumer out of work and you hurt the overall economy and ultimately yourself.

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You’re completely assuming people are stagnant and can’t evolve. Think about it this way.  I can shop online and save a lot of time. I use that time to grow my technology company and continue to hire at a rapid rate.  The technology we develop displaces a lot of admin type people but adds jobs for us and encourages these admin people to expand their education to do higher purpose type work.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2019, 03:35:32 PM »
I could also argue that there are products on Amazon that were never available to me. Now those company's are able to grow and add jobs.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2019, 03:40:27 PM »
I could also argue that there are products on Amazon that were never available to me. Now those company's are able to grow and add jobs.

I wonder how Caliber Fitness Solutions The Leader in Human Evolution Since 2001, could create jobs continuing into 2019.
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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2019, 04:12:14 PM »
I wonder how Caliber Fitness Solutions The Leader in Human Evolution Since 2001, could create jobs continuing into 2019.

You can’t know what the new industries will be. As the late great Yogi Berra once said “Predictions are hard especially about the future.” However what you can do is maintain a climate of minimal government intervention, low taxation and regulation, where great entrepreneurs like Vince can flourish.👍

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2019, 04:24:29 PM »
Now Sears can open a new store on that spot.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2019, 04:37:32 PM »
You can’t know what the new industries will be. As the late great Yogi Berra once said “Predictions are hard especially about the future.” However what you can do is maintain a climate of minimal government intervention, low taxation and regulation, where great entrepreneurs like Vince can flourish.👍

I've been submitting my CV for Caliber Fitness Solutions The Leader in Human Evolution Since 2001, however, I have not heard a response.
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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2019, 05:29:32 PM »
Trump is single handedly killing American jobs!

Fuck you commie. How so numbnuts? Can you type a viable response that makes sense. He has created 5 million jobs under his watch. Lowest unemployment rate in decades. Hell even the  blacks and hispanics are finding work. Thus, what is your problem.

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2019, 05:41:02 PM »
Methinks HTexan was being sarcastic with his post.

Am I wrong, HTexan?

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2019, 05:42:35 PM »
Fuck you commie. How so numbnuts? Can you type a viable response that makes sense. He has created 5 million jobs under his watch. Lowest unemployment rate in decades. Hell even the  blacks and hispanics are finding work. Thus, what is your problem.

Commie response will be either ''thanks Obama'' or ''racist''

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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2019, 10:52:54 PM »
My concern is what happens to the displaced business owners and their employees? Will this merely serve to continue to increase our unemployment rates and further hurt our economy?

Jobs end and jobs are created is a simplified view though, isn't it? Consider the limited skill set and education that many of these individuals/workers in retail have and then tell us where they will go once companies like Amazon force their employers out of business. Unless amazon can replace the jobs lost with an equal amount of new jobs and guarantee work for the displaced employees, I think they'll end up on the unemployment line seeking financial assistance, which comes directly from our taxes.

I think NYC maybe has seen the devastating effects amazon has had on other cities and doesn't want to join in on the fun. In Jeff Bezos' world, he would love for people to be able to simply click away on their amazon app and never have to consider walking into an actual store to purchase good/services, but it's those same people that he wants money from that also need jobs in order to buy/use his companies products/services.

Put the average consumer out of work and you hurt the overall economy and ultimately yourself.

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Having gone to school for logistics and supply chain management, I'm really torn on this.  On the one hand both Amazon, and Walmart are so ahead of everyone else and constantly coming up with new innovations in those areas that from a person's stand point that is interested in those things you can't help but be blown over by what they've achieved.  To me it's very interesting to learn about.

On the other hand, there's the things you've mentioned, and my belief which is what SF1900 stated in this thread which is Walmart and Amazon will someday be the only two places to shop.  That won't be how it literally turns out, but damn near it.  As I mentioned in the property tax thread, I predicted long ago that Amazon would become their own logistics provider to some extent(they have) and eventually completely(they will).  I am very much of the thought that they will eventually build their own airports, and build their warehouse/distribution/fulfillment centers on or near the land with the airports, and sell off everything else to become more centralized.  My prediction is in 10-15 yrs.

We had a very large, modern, and nicely laid out open air mall here open up around 10 years ago.  Out of the 8-10 well known larger retailers opened with the mall itself, that in a traditional shopping mall would be referred to as "anchor stores" only best buy and tj maxx are left....and tj maxx is probably ready to pack it in as their lot never has more than 20 cars except over the winter holiday madness sales.  All told, there's probably 180,000 to 220,000 square ft of available retail space there right now.

Amazon did hire a ton of drivers, and call workers here over the last 12-18months, and our unemployment is below the national avg always.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2019, 10:58:59 PM »
I saw on the news their warehouses are all automated. The shelves and stock move through the warehouses by computers, the massive warehouses looked basically empty of people.

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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2019, 11:00:20 PM »
Serious question:

If Amazon wants to help communities, why not move the headquarters to a down trodden state to try and drum up jobs?

NYC will clearly be fine without the Amazon headquarters. There are quite a few states that could probably benefit from the influx of jobs :::shrugs:::

Having the headquarters in New York was all about attracting the best and the brightest talent.  Amazon hires mostly young people in their twenties and thirties and for some reason young people want to live in New York city.  

It's the same reason Cadillac moved their headquarters to New York.  The talent they wanted to attract didn't want to live in Detroit.

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« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2019, 04:12:01 AM »
One thing I have learned is that predictions rarely come to pass.

Amazon and WalMart are on top right now.  Things change.  New ideas happen.

Think of the railroads.  They were the largest business in the country at one time.

Then came trucks.

The "next Amazon" and the "next WalMart" will happen.

Someone will again come up with something new.

Sears was unstoppable in its day but now is kaput.  It will happen to Amazon and WalMart someday.

No business lasts forever.


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Re: Nice Job NY you just killed off 25k high paying jobs
« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2019, 07:16:34 AM »
Screw Bezos...NY was going to pay 3 billion dollars to a Man who is worth 90 billion.
Let him pay for his own dam project.