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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2019, 07:27:08 PM »
I followed this diet twice in the 90's... very strictly.  Both times were a 6 months stretch (I was natty).  As the weeks go on you get progressively weaker in the gym... even with the carb up days.  

Natty:  You'll lose a lot of water weight and get ripped.  No bloating at all.  However, you'll be weaker, smaller and will not have a lot of energy for intense workouts, especially hard leg training.  

Roided:  Totally different story.  This is what Arnold and most BBers did in the 70's and 80's for their contest prep.  The drugs give you the energy you need to train hard.


What if you did this natty until you got ripped, then did a week or two carb up and shit canned it after that.  Would that be effective?
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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2019, 03:21:04 AM »
Rather have quarter pounders like pellius

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2019, 03:16:32 AM »
Go for it have you ever thought of doing some heavy cycles youd look awesome and have a look built for IG/magazines? Probably become net famous, and loaded.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2019, 04:11:07 AM »
Rather have quarter pounders like pellius

Would even flaunt my ding dong for a quarter pounder!
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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2019, 05:17:53 AM »
What if you did this natty until you got ripped, then did a week or two carb up and shit canned it after that.  Would that be effective?

I did this a few times.  After only about 2-3 days of carbing up, you start spilling over.  It happens faster with simple carbs, slower with low GI carbs.

The drug(s) is what makes the difference.  This is the same diet Arnold and all the 70's and 80's guys used 2-3 months before the competition.  6 days of no carbs, 1 day of carbs.  This was one of the questions I asked Ed Corney in 2003 and he confirmed it.  The drugs give you the energy to train and keep you full/strong.  You gain size and lose body fat at the same time. 

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2019, 06:45:38 AM »
Is this real life lmao? People saying they cured their illnesses through just eating meat  :P


Maybe the reason these crazy, heavily restricted diets heal certain illnesses is because people unintentionally end up eliminating some food that is making them sick, maybe because of processing and additives?  


Rice diet

The Rice Diet Program was founded in 1939 by Dr. Walter Kempner (1903-1997), a refugee from the Nazis, who was at that time associated with Duke University. Kempner had many patients with malignant hypertension with kidney failure, and there were no good treatments for those patients. He believed that the kidney had two functions, one excretory and the other metabolic, and "he theorized that if the protein and electrolyte load on the kidney was reduced to a minimum, the kidney might better perform its more essential metabolic role. The details of his reasoning are obscure, but he began to treat patients with malignant hypertension with a diet composed of nothing but rice and fruit, and amazingly, they rapidly improved."

Kempner's implementation was very strict, but also careful - patients were hospitalized for several weeks at the beginning of treatment. The initial treatment was stopping all medication and putting the patient on a diet consisting of "white rice, sugar, fruit, fruit juices, vitamins and iron, and provided about 2000 calories, 20 grams of protein, and 700–1000 ml of liquid as fruit and fruit juices. Sodium content was extremely low, about 250 milligrams per day, and chloride content about 100 milligrams per day." If results were good, after several months small amounts of lean meat and vegetables were added to the diet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_diet#Origin_and_original_form

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2019, 06:56:42 AM »
What if you did this natty until you got ripped, then did a week or two carb up and shit canned it after that.  Would that be effective?

It would work but to such a small degree it's not even noticeable. The only thing you would notice is shrinking down to a very small level when dieting.

Can't do this type of shit without at least a little test maybe some NPP.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2019, 07:34:56 AM »
Most days I would just eat one of these 5lbs rolls of ground beef 80/20, some days I will throw in some eggs, salmon, bison, chicken. But red meat is the staple. Eat until I'm full each meal, most days 4-5lbs of meat.

4-5 lbs of meat a day,holy shit.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2019, 08:42:05 AM »
4-5 lbs of meat a day,holy shit.
dead by 40 or his colon will be shot
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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2019, 08:46:47 AM »
dead by 40 or his colon will be shot

2-3x a day is a must on this diet.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2019, 09:05:22 AM »
2-3x a day is a must on this diet.




Unfortunately:

Psyllium = ispaghula

"Researchers have found that a daily dose of ispaghula husks, a supplement sold as a natural laxative, increases the number of polyps in the guts"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370123/High-fibre-supplement-linked-to-cancer-risk.html

"Supplementation with fibre as ispaghula husk may have adverse effects on colorectal adenoma(polyps) recurrence"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11073017

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2019, 09:58:32 AM »
Unfortunately:

Psyllium = ispaghula

"Researchers have found that a daily dose of ispaghula husks, a supplement sold as a natural laxative, increases the number of polyps in the guts"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370123/High-fibre-supplement-linked-to-cancer-risk.html

"Supplementation with fibre as ispaghula husk may have adverse effects on colorectal adenoma(polyps) recurrence"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11073017

such a shame about the science cuz that stuff completely cleans you out with legendary shits.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2019, 10:10:31 AM »
Unfortunately:

Psyllium = ispaghula

"Researchers have found that a daily dose of ispaghula husks, a supplement sold as a natural laxative, increases the number of polyps in the guts"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370123/High-fibre-supplement-linked-to-cancer-risk.html

"Supplementation with fibre as ispaghula husk may have adverse effects on colorectal adenoma(polyps) recurrence"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11073017

LOL  Pure bunk.

The medical community HATES anything that is good for you or keeps you out of a hospital. 

I've been taking/drinking psyllium husk once a day since I was 18.  It's amazing stuff.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2019, 10:11:55 AM »
such a shame about the science cuz that stuff completely cleans you out with legendary shits.

LOL  Pure bunk.

The medical community HATES anything that is good for you or keeps you out of a hospital. 

I've been taking/drinking psyllium husk once a day since I was 18.  It's amazing stuff.

Agreed.  Good stuff.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2019, 10:14:08 AM »
LOL  Pure bunk.

The medical community HATES anything that is good for you or keeps you out of a hospital. 

I've been taking/drinking psyllium husk once a day since I was 18.  It's amazing stuff.

You know just about all Psyllium Husk supplements come from India.  I wonder if the Indians are adding carcinogens on purpose in order to take revenge on the British Empire.   :D

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2019, 01:57:50 PM »
dead by 40 or his colon will be shot
Lol, dude I fart maybe once a day, not to mention I'm regular daily, also solid stools every time, no diarrhea,  no loose stools..nothing.  Fiber does more harm than good.
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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2019, 02:01:17 PM »
LOL  Pure bunk.

The medical community HATES anything that is good for you or keeps you out of a hospital. 

I've been taking/drinking psyllium husk once a day since I was 18.  It's amazing stuff.



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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2019, 02:04:44 PM »
4-5 lbs of meat a day,holy shit.

On IronAge , Serge Nubret was talking about his horse meat consumption , 3kg p/d  :)

Selling horse meat is still illegal in the States  ???.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2019, 02:20:12 PM »
and here I was thinking that a diet high in red meat consumption can be dangerous in the long run  ???

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2019, 02:25:02 PM »
and here I was thinking that a diet high in red meat consumption can be dangerous in the long run  ???


meat quality & cooking method regarding to nubret  ;)

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2019, 02:25:41 PM »
Lol, dude I fart maybe once a day, not to mention I'm regular daily, also solid stools every time, no diarrhea,  no loose stools..nothing.  Fiber does more harm than good.

Wow... you're a perfect specimen!  Isn't youth wonderful?


Now tell us what drugs you're using.

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2019, 05:49:22 PM »
may i ask?

why not add tons of green veggies to the meat diet? asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,  etc etc??



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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2019, 06:16:16 PM »
Wow... you're a perfect specimen!  Isn't youth wonderful?


Now tell us what drugs you're using.
Youth? I'm 38.


may i ask?

why not add tons of green veggies to the meat diet? asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,  etc etc??



I feel 1000% better without them, dude they do more harm then good. The soil is depleted, they are full of pesticides, if you are cooking them there is no point, theres so much info on the adverse effects of veggies. By the way this is coming from a guy that would eat a bag of veggies a day, rotating from spinach, brocoli, asparagus. Tons of veggies. My stool was inconsistent, sometimes solid, sometimes loose, sometimes diareaha, farting, bloating. Cut all this out, all that is miraculously gone. Even on my carb up day I don't touch a single vegetable.
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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2019, 06:27:01 PM »
Wow... you're a perfect specimen!  Isn't youth wonderful?


Now tell us what drugs you're using.

Wow! Heaviest was 204 with abs at 5’7 natural  :o

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Re: Carnivore Diet (@ go4it especially)
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2019, 06:32:06 PM »
Nothing Go 4 It says matter.

He says veggies are unhealthy, despite the overwhelming amount of evidence that including veggies in one's diet is extremely beneficial. The Mediterranean diet is full of vegetables and fruits with minimal meat and is associated with a reduction in stroke, diabetes, heart problems, cancer, etc.

Also, he's on drugs, which he will never state what drugs he is on, so diet and training advice from him means nothing to most of us naturals.

Who is going to listen to this clown: full of drugs and says vegetables are bad for you lol.

Typical meathead responses.
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