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Venezuela was my home, and socialism destroyed it. Slowly, it will destroy America, too.

I watched what was once one of the richest countries in Latin America gradually fall apart under the weight of big government.

I didn’t need to look at statistics to see this but rather at my own family. When Chavez took office in 1999, my parents were earning several thousand dollars a month between the two of them. By 2016, due to inflation, they earned less than $2 a day. If my parents hadn’t fled the country for Spain in 2017, they’d now be earning less than $1 a day, the international definition of extreme poverty. Even now, the inflation rate in Venezuela is expected to reach 10 million percent this year.

Venezuela has become a country where a woeful number of children suffer from malnutrition, and where working two full-time jobs will pay for only 6 pounds of chicken a month.

American liberals embrace same failed policies

Though so many of us Venezuelans fled to the USA to escape from the destructive consequences of socialism, liberal politicians like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Rep. José Serrano, D-N.Y., have praised the same kind of policies that produced famine, mass exodus and soaring inflation in Venezuela.

Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.

Additionally, many congressional Democrats support Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, proposals that would nationalize the health insurance industry, guarantee everyone who wants it a job and massively raise taxes, increasing government intervention in the economy like few countries except Cuba and Venezuela have seen before. Proponents think that they can give all Americans quality health care, housing and everything for free and that somehow, politicians can do a better job at running a business than the business owners themselves.

These proposals would skyrocket the budget deficit and national debt, which just reached a record $22 trillion. If that is not enough, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez endorsed paying for the proposal by asking the Federal Reserve to print money. This is exactly what produced Venezuela’s nightmare.

Even so, liberal economist Paul Krugman recently argued in a column that “whenever you see someone invoking Venezuela as a reason not to consider progressive policy ideas, you know right away that the person in question is uninformed, dishonest, or both.”

I can assure Mr. Krugman that I’m neither uninformed nor dishonest. Of course, it’s true that neither Medicare for All nor a wealth tax alone would turn the United States into Venezuela overnight. No single radical proposal would do that. However, if all or most of these measures are implemented, they could have the same catastrophic consequences for the American people that they had for Venezuela.

In his recent State of the Union address, President Trump said: “America will never be a socialist country.” I sincerely hope that the president is right, and that every American can resist the lure of false promises — so this great country can always shine above the dark cloud of socialism, and avoid Venezuela’s fate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/02/15/donald-trump-venezuela-socialism-bernie-sanders-ilhan-omar-column/2861461002/?fbclid=IwAR0DQmUdVELHw1QBaOUsCuVsFhkc40JAfw6R65AvLSvbXYg-ZcdIk7SZR5Q

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There's more to the Venzuelan crisis than the failure of socialism.

Some heavy stuf is going on behind the scenes.

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There's more to the Venzuelan crisis than the failure of socialism.

Some heavy stuf is going on behind the scenes.

Go on.

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Well,my country was pretty good when socialist and was destroyed by uncontrolled capitalism actually.

So as far as I am concerned,fuck off.

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Socialism destroys every country. I'm seeing it myself where I stay.

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Well,my country was pretty good when socialist and was destroyed by uncontrolled capitalism actually.

So as far as I am concerned,fuck off.

Russia?

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Well,my country was pretty good when socialist and was destroyed by uncontrolled capitalism actually.

So as far as I am concerned,fuck off.

Though your people probably 'protested' for the government to change and got what they wanted.

And perhaps the mental capacity or ability of the locals are not up to the standards to run a modern state.

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Though your people probably 'protested' for the government to change and got what they wanted.

And perhaps the mental capacity or ability of the locals are not up to the standards to run a modern state.

Ah, the subject no one wants to pay attention to.

Did socialism ruin the Nordic countries?

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Ah, the subject no one wants to pay attention to.

Did socialism ruin the Nordic countries?

Just wait.  Birth rates drop, thus not enough new working people to tax in order to pay for free crap, thus quality of free crap greatly drops, so borders open hoping educated hard working immigrants will fill the gap, but instead get uneducated free loading rapists, therefore Scandinavia turns into shiitte hole.  You just wait.  Math doesn't just stop working in Scandinavia.

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That's all I know.

Previous governments, as corrupt as they were, had a rainy day fund for decades.  They stashed money away into this fund when oil prices were high, then used that money to keep things running when oil prices dropped.

Chavez raided that rainy day fund, some to pay for socialist programs for some of the poor in order to buy their loyalty, and most of it he kept for himself and his daughters.

Chavez gave the military, in exchange for their loyalty, the country's mineral rights.

Chavez pushed away the meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK because Venezuela is a sovereign country, right?  Libtards around the world applauded him for that.  But that just created a void quickly filled by Cuba, China and Russia.  These meddling commies have been bleeding Venezuela dry for decades.  Venezuelans now miss good old, meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK.  Things were much better with them.

After Chavez died, his hand picked successor and vice president, Maduro, has done nothing but make things worse.  He is a fat bastard ruling a starving country.

Does that about cover it, or do you know more?


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Ah, the subject no one wants to pay attention to.

Did socialism ruin the Nordic countries?

Sweden is becoming a complete cesspool and Norway is not far off.


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The people who usually say socialism is so great usually live in a capitalist country with an excellent standard of living while those from the 'wonderful' socialist countries are trying to escape to a capitalist country.

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Previous governments, as corrupt as they were, had a rainy day fund for decades.  They stashed money away into this fund when oil prices were high, then used that money to keep things running when oil prices dropped.

Chavez raided that rainy day fund, some to pay for socialist programs for some of the poor in order to buy their loyalty, and most of it he kept for himself and his daughters.

Chavez gave the military, in exchange for their loyalty, the country's mineral rights.

Chavez pushed away the meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK because Venezuela is a sovereign country, right?  Libtards around the world applauded him for that.  But that just created a void quickly filled by Cuba, China and Russia.  These meddling commies have been bleeding Venezuela dry for decades.  Venezuelans now miss good old, meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK.  Things were much better with them.

After Chavez died, his hand picked successor and vice president, Maduro, has done nothing but make things worse.  He is a fat bastard ruling a starving country.

Does that about cover it, or do you know more?



There's more but I don't know what it is.

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There's more but I don't know what it is.

Do share if you find out.   :D

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Socialism destroys every country. I'm seeing it myself where I stay.


The belief  is that if we split the pie up evenly everything will be fine. However, the fatal flaw is the assumption that the pie will stay the same size. It never does. It shrinks to the point where everybody suffers.

That’s what we’re seeing in Venezuela.

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Sweden is becoming a complete cesspool and Norway is not far off.


Its already there. We have an office in Linkoping Sweden. Working w/ the same guys for 20 years now. They grew up there.
They cant believe how fucked it all is now. Planning their escape as they are getting close to retirement age.

Mattias says SSM's are running wild everywhere, like rampant dogs, only dogs are smarter and much more well behaved.
Whoever supports that stuff, please go kill yourself now, do everyone a favor.

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The belief  is that if we split the pie up evenly everything will be fine. However, the fatal flaw is the assumption that the pie will stay the same size. It never does. It shrinks to the point where everybody suffers.

That’s what we’re seeing in Venezuela.

Happy Pi Day!   ;D

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Don’t believe anything the corporate media and our corporate-controlled government have to shove down our throats about Venezuela.  It is propaganda to justify yet another regime change war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5MlQgGXyk


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Previous governments, as corrupt as they were, had a rainy day fund for decades.  They stashed money away into this fund when oil prices were high, then used that money to keep things running when oil prices dropped.

Chavez raided that rainy day fund, some to pay for socialist programs for some of the poor in order to buy their loyalty, and most of it he kept for himself and his daughters.

Chavez gave the military, in exchange for their loyalty, the country's mineral rights.

Chavez pushed away the meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK because Venezuela is a sovereign country, right?  Libtards around the world applauded him for that.  But that just created a void quickly filled by Cuba, China and Russia.  These meddling commies have been bleeding Venezuela dry for decades.  Venezuelans now miss good old, meddling, imperialist, capitalist USA and UK.  Things were much better with them.

After Chavez died, his hand picked successor and vice president, Maduro, has done nothing but make things worse.  He is a fat bastard ruling a starving country.

Does that about cover it, or do you know more?



so Chavez stole public funds and gave them to his family and you're calling that socialism?

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Its already there. We have an office in Linkoping Sweden. Working w/ the same guys for 20 years now. They grew up there.
They cant believe how fucked it all is now. Planning their escape as they are getting close to retirement age.

Mattias says SSM's are running wild everywhere, like rampant dogs, only dogs are smarter and much more well behaved.
Whoever supports that stuff, please go kill yourself now, do everyone a favor.

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The people who usually say socialism is so great usually live in a capitalist country with an excellent standard of living while those from the 'wonderful' socialist countries are trying to escape to a capitalist country.

Amen living off a wonderful welfare system supported by successful capitalism. If only these fools could see the end result, love it or hate it capitalism delivers a far better quality of life for both the wealthy and poor.

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so Chavez stole public funds and gave them to his family and you're calling that socialism?

Are you really an idiot, or do you just play one on the Internet?

Did you read what my post was in response to?

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Are you really an idiot, or do you just play one on the Internet?

Did you read what my post was in response to?

I read it

you said he stole public funds and kept most of it for himself and his family

Is that socialism?

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I read it

you said he stole public funds and kept most of it for himself and his family

Is that socialism?

Are you really an idiot, or do you just play one on the Internet?

Did you read what my post was in response to?