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Re: Anyone like HIT?
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2019, 12:46:31 PM »
Thanks for the response to me in their.  I'm very interested to know how those of you mid 40's and beyond have adapted, and what you've had to overcome/work around.  I don't know what belt squats are?  I can google, but I'd much rather if you posted a clip of someone you felt was doing it right as I have no idea what proper form looks like if I just watched some random clip.

Trap bar deads are a no way in hell for me!  I didn't tear my bicep working out, but palms facing each other was the hand position I was in when the tendon snapped off the bone.

I use a hip belt and attach heavy kettlebells, while standing on blocks in my power rack while holding on to the weight bar set at a good height.

The have nice machines these days, our gym doesnt have one. Titan makes then now at like half the price, but the hip belt and K-Bells works for me.
Dont need to go real heavy these days..


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Re: Anyone like HIT?
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2019, 07:23:11 PM »
It’s really about just not being a hero in the gym. Doing consistent, solid workouts but nothing crazy.

IMO, the problem people have with squats is that they simply go to heavy, the result being knee and low back issues. I believe everyone would be better off if they didn’t squat with a weight that they couldn’t get onto their backs if they didn’t have a squat rack and had to start with the bar on the ground.

Interesting theory, and one I can't really argue with other than to say 2 things: I and many others would have missed out on some great personal accomplishments when we were younger.  I also believe that learning how to squat heavy, and for sets of 12-20+ reps teaches a person an intensity and focus that one can't get from any other exercise.  Once you've mastered pushing through that pain on squats everything else seems fairly easy to lock into.

Back in the 90's when the gym I worked at got the first power rack I'd ever seen, I started going heavy in it with no spot.  I stayed pretty stagnant with my progress. 

Fast forward to a year later when my training partner took me under his wing, and when it was leg day for the first time I headed to set up in the cage... he asked wtf I thought I was doing?  He started wiggling the old PL squat stands into alignment, and told me to get my ass over there and do my squats right.  I said "but there's nothing to catch me if I fail".  He replied, "if you're afraid you're going to fail, you probably won't"   Solid advice and theory.  Fear is a great motivator!

I will admit that the Jay Masters thread made me use the cage, and safety bars for the first time in many many years today, and I'm doing baby weights.  You're 100% right with what you're saying for guys my age, but I have it in my head that I want to get back to 315 for reps for another stretch before admitting age has defeated me.  With what I've done in the past, I feel I should be pretty safe if I take it super slow. (knock on wood)

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Re: Anyone like HIT?
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2019, 07:44:20 PM »
I'm really getting dumbbell squats.  They are really tough. If you normally use 315lbs then two 100lbs dumbbells should be about all you can use for this. Most do them incorrectly bending over and deadlifting the weight. Uses straps for grip and keep your back upright. Concentrate on bringing your ass down with an upright back. Concentrate on bending your legs fully. You can do this holding the dumbbells at your sides if your back is upright. Try a couple of sets of 12.  They are brutal.

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Re: Anyone like HIT?
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2019, 07:51:22 PM »
I use a hip belt and attach heavy kettlebells, while standing on blocks in my power rack while holding on to the weight bar set at a good height.

The have nice machines these days, our gym doesnt have one. Titan makes then now at like half the price, but the hip belt and K-Bells works for me.
Dont need to go real heavy these days..



Don't think you could have found and posted a better link....background, how to, and demo.  Thanks man!

I've never seen such a machine.  The only thing I don't like about it for me, is that based on watching that kid demo it, it looks like it would bring your glutes in heavily.  I squat on plates or a 1" x 4" w/heels up, because my ass grows just walking past a squat rack.  I don't know if that would work on that machine, but I'd sure try it.

Thanks again!

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Re: Anyone like HIT?
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2019, 10:03:06 PM »
It's horseshit.  No respectable S&C program in the world uses this protocol.

Seeing how the only consistent conclusion researchers can come to about hypertrophy and strength training is that momentary muscular failure is critical, I’d say most S&C programs are more voodoo than science.