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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2019, 08:13:29 PM »
Here is the full comment by this idiot

It's appear the person asked her about Nationalism (which she never bothered to define) and she chose to bring up Hitler and for some reason thinks everything he did would have been fine if only he had kept it in his own country

ONLY LATER and after a huge and well deserved backlash did she go on twitter and attempt to denounce Hitler (duh)

This is classic Trumptardism

You start with a speaker who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about
They say something utterly stupid and then get defiant when people point out they are fucking stupid

Refer to posts in this thread for more examples of the same phenomenon


https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1093961332456673292

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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »
I like that we can find common ground and/or compromise.  No homo.

Titties are always a good unifying force......even saggy ones.

Calling the southern strategy a myth.  Hitler not a nationalist. 

Dude, just do yourself a favor and watch "Hillary's America"  The whole "big switch" thing is a myth as someone else alluded to, but the movie will give you a shit ton of background and things to look up so you can decide on your own what you really believe.  I used to buy into that the dems really were the ones that cared about minorities and equal rights, and republicans were more based on morality and money.  The part about the Repubs is mostly right (morality of all politicians is questionable), but my eyes are wide open about the history of the democratic party after researching the clintons during the election, watching that movie a couple months ago, and then doing some googly-gooing based on what I learned.

There was a southern strategy Nixon had, but it was never implemented and like I said the "big switch" while not a complete myth, is not "big" by any stretch of the imagination.  You fire up, right?  Grab a pen and paper, blaze up, watch the movie, and take notes.  Tell us where you're at after that, and some research.

As for the Hitler thing, she was taken out of context and I think I know where it's from.  I'm quoting Straw with the answer below as to where to find.

And finally on the cop part....she has a point.  I don't know where you live, but if you're not in Chicago, LA, SF, NY, or some other overpacked leftist place...just turn on your local news every night and morning b4 you look at anything from MSM (either side), and then tell me if the narrative about all cops being racist and going out hunting for blacks to shoot down or mistreat every day is accurate?  It's not.  

Their job is brutal, and you have to ask yourself what would you do in a split second when you keep giving orders to make a peaceful arrest, and a dude reaches into his pockets quickly or tries to attack you?

As a former gym employee for many years, I'll let you in on a not so well kept secret......if you are training in a large commercial gym, you're training near a cop, dea, fbi, etc.person almost daily, and no matter what time you go.  A lot of them will say they do something else for a living to avoid being harassed or judged.  There's a good chance you've spotted, been spotted by, worked in on a piece of eqptmnt, or had a few friendly conversations with one of them, and don't even know it.

Just some things to think about my friend! 8)

which is about 20 points above the average Trump voter



I'll take that with a grain of salt since basically everything you say, and have believed for the past 2+ yrs is complete and utter nonsense.

I read part of your post wondering about the context, and where it was from.  She's said variations of that on multiple occasions, but I think that might be off of the YT episode of her show that she did with the guy that's high up in BLM.  Whatever you all might think of her, and her opinions; you should at least give her credit for being one of the very few that is willing to sit down and have a rational debate with anyone.  Her show on PragerU on YT is only about 4-5 episodes in, but they are all really good interviews.  She did one with Russell Brand on his channel that was pretty good as well.  Anyway, if you're willing to watch to get the context and I'm right about the episode I think it's in, just go to YT and search "Candace Owens Show: Hawk"......ahhh fuck it, it's positivity week so I went and found it for you....



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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2019, 08:25:51 PM »
Here is the full comment by this idiot

It's appear the person asked her about Nationalism (which she never bothered to define) and she chose to bring up Hitler and for some reason thinks everything he did would have been fine if only he had kept it in his own country

ONLY LATER and after a huge and well deserved backlash did she go on twitter and attempt to denounce Hitler (duh)

This is classic Trumptardism

You start with a speaker who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about
They say something utterly stupid and then get defiant when people point out they are fucking stupid

Refer to posts in this thread for more examples of the same phenomenon


https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1093961332456673292

You're totally spinning things, and not open to any critical thinking whatsoever.  She said nationalism is ok.......being proud, and protective of your nation.  She never said or says what Hitler did was ok.

Just watch the video I posted for you.  The dude is on your side of the fence so it's not a one-sided clip like the left does on msm

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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2019, 08:37:15 PM »
Titties are always a good unifying force......even saggy ones.

Dude, just do yourself a favor and watch "Hillary's America"  The whole "big switch" thing is a myth as someone else alluded to, but the movie will give you a shit ton of background and things to look up so you can decide on your own what you really believe.  I used to buy into that the dems really were the ones that cared about minorities and equal rights, and republicans were more based on morality and money.  The part about the Repubs is mostly right (morality of all politicians is questionable), but my eyes are wide open about the history of the democratic party after researching the clintons during the election, watching that movie a couple months ago, and then doing some googly-gooing based on what I learned.

There was a southern strategy Nixon had, but it was never implemented and like I said the "big switch" while not a complete myth, is not "big" by any stretch of the imagination.  You fire up, right?  Grab a pen and paper, blaze up, watch the movie, and take notes.  Tell us where you're at after that, and some research.

As for the Hitler thing, she was taken out of context and I think I know where it's from.  I'm quoting Straw with the answer below as to where to find.

And finally on the cop part....she has a point.  I don't know where you live, but if you're not in Chicago, LA, SF, NY, or some other overpacked leftist place...just turn on your local news every night and morning b4 you look at anything from MSM (either side), and then tell me if the narrative about all cops being racist and going out hunting for blacks to shoot down or mistreat every day is accurate?  It's not.  

Their job is brutal, and you have to ask yourself what would you do in a split second when you keep giving orders to make a peaceful arrest, and a dude reaches into his pockets quickly or tries to attack you?

As a former gym employee for many years, I'll let you in on a not so well kept secret......if you are training in a large commercial gym, you're training near a cop, dea, fbi, etc.person almost daily, and no matter what time you go.  A lot of them will say they do something else for a living to avoid being harassed or judged.  There's a good chance you've spotted, been spotted by, worked in on a piece of eqptmnt, or had a few friendly conversations with one of them, and don't even know it.

Just some things to think about my friend! 8)

I'll take that with a grain of salt since basically everything you say, and have believed for the past 2+ yrs is complete and utter nonsense.

I read part of your post wondering about the context, and where it was from.  She's said variations of that on multiple occasions, but I think that might be off of the YT episode of her show that she did with the guy that's high up in BLM.  Whatever you all might think of her, and her opinions; you should at least give her credit for being one of the very few that is willing to sit down and have a rational debate with anyone.  Her show on PragerU on YT is only about 4-5 episodes in, but they are all really good interviews.  She did one with Russell Brand on his channel that was pretty good as well.  Anyway, if you're willing to watch to get the context and I'm right about the episode I think it's in, just go to YT and search "Candace Owens Show: Hawk"......ahhh fuck it, it's positivity week so I went and found it for you....




a couple points
you need to condense that shit if you expect me to do anything more than skim

1.  Southern Strategy was implemented, and talked about and even attempted to be apologized for (by RNC Ken Melhman, as I mentioned previously)

2.  Cops have tough jobs.  No one said they didn't but that doesnt' make them a minority

3.  You can watch her FULL Hitler comments which in my link (or on one page one).  They are NOT taken out of context
She's the one who introduced Hitler into the discussion in some very weird attempt to defend nationalism which she never bothered to actually define.  She later had to go on Twitter and try to walk back her comment while also continuing to defend it. 

4.  Fuck Hillary. I dont' know why you're bringing her up in this thread.



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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2019, 09:19:09 AM »
As much as I respect you, I suspect you may be giving her a pass



First time I've seen that meme, and like I said, I hadn't even heard of her before seeing a post about the exchange. I was going off of that one encounter, not her history of being conservative etc

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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2019, 09:53:32 AM »
a couple points
you need to condense that shit if you expect me to do anything more than skim

1.  Southern Strategy was implemented, and talked about and even attempted to be apologized for (by RNC Ken Melhman, as I mentioned previously)

2.  Cops have tough jobs.  No one said they didn't but that doesnt' make them a minority

3.  You can watch her FULL Hitler comments which in my link (or on one page one).  They are NOT taken out of context
She's the one who introduced Hitler into the discussion in some very weird attempt to defend nationalism which she never bothered to actually define.  She later had to go on Twitter and try to walk back her comment while also continuing to defend it. 

4.  Fuck Hillary. I dont' know why you're bringing her up in this thread.




You might want to go back, and realize that only the last part was directed at you.  You didn't even need to read it, in fact I should have done separate posts as it was mainly intended for Abraham who although he's on the left, he still is open to differing views if they make sense.  I merely suggested something for him to watch, to research after doing so, and then draw his own conclusions....that's why Hillary was brought up.

I haven't watched your clip yet, but I will and I have no doubt it proves your point.  I have seen other things that said people around Nixon said it was never actually used, so who knows and does it really matter this many years later?

I will add that you are correct where Candace's statement was taken from.  I don't watch really any regular tv at night, but I watch YT on my tv before going to bed and one of last night's clips that popped up in my recommended feed showed Lieu holding up the phone and zoomed in on it.  It was during a q&a or speech type thing, not from the clip I posted.  That being said, you're still spinning what she's saying.  Watch the clip of her show with the guy from BLM.....she has discussions more so than she interviews.  There's some things I disagreed with the BLM guy on, but it gave me a perspective I didn't have before about your sides point of view. 

Before you slam her, watch her in full vs. short clips and see what she is really about is all I'm saying.  If you still feel she's pro-hitler, and a white supremacist after doing with an open mind then I really can't argue with what you truly believe.  Right now, I don't feel like you truly believe anything about her except what you've been told and choose to hear so that you can argue about it.

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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2019, 05:03:35 PM »
First time I've seen that meme, and like I said, I hadn't even heard of her before seeing a post about the exchange. I was going off of that one encounter, not her history of being conservative etc

Fair enough. 

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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2019, 01:38:00 PM »


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Re: Political Beatdowns
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2019, 04:00:29 PM »
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