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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2019, 07:57:39 PM »
Big flaw in your argument right off of the bat. 

Sanctuary cities are against federal law. They are a drain on the rest of the country's taxpayers, and change the demographics of our country.  Something that is being done in the hopes of political gain under the disguise of compassion and moral high ground.  If they want illegals, and he grants their wish he's again the bad guy.

Please tell me how Trump can do just 3 things right in your eyes, and give the justification for each.

This as you said it appears it’s all about political gain
Scumbag politics playing to the lowest common denominator.

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2019, 08:09:28 PM »
Once again Trumptard gut reaction emotion running wild

First of all what Trump proposes IS illegal.  He's already been told it's illegal and his statement that he is "strongly looking at releasing immigrant detainees into sanctuary cities" is not only illegal but not even logistically feasible (is he going to pull border patrol off duty to have the distribute asylum seekers across the US?)

Santuary cities exist because those cities recognize that illegal immigrants will always exist and they'd rather have them be willing to report crimes when they witness them, have their kids in school rather than running the streets, etc... It BENEFITS this cities to have these people doing these things.  

If Trumptards are saying that it's OK For the POTUS to break the law because illegal immigrants are also breaking the law then why even bother having laws at all.  Why even bother having a Constitution.   Remember this is the idea of the fucking weirdo who publicly humps the flag.

We know the POTUS feels this way because just this week he publicly wished he could just get rid of judges

This is not how our country operates.  

If you don't like the law then work on legislation and change the fucking laws.  Of course this would require hard work and we know Trump doesn't have the time, patience or attention span to actually do that

I know this really hard and confusing for Trumptard to understand, most especially for the fat fucking crybaby snowflake in the White House

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2019, 09:46:10 PM »
Once again Trumptard gut reaction emotion running wild

First of all what Trump proposes IS illegal.  He's already been told it's illegal and his statement that he is "strongly looking at releasing immigrant detainees into sanctuary cities" is not only illegal but not even logistically feasible (is he going to pull border patrol off duty to have the distribute asylum seekers across the US?)

Santuary cities exist because those cities recognize that illegal immigrants will always exist and they'd rather have them be willing to report crimes when they witness them, have their kids in school rather than running the streets, etc... It BENEFITS this cities to have these people doing these things.  

If Trumptards are saying that it's OK For the POTUS to break the law because illegal immigrants are also breaking the law then why even bother having laws at all.  Why even bother having a Constitution.   Remember this is the idea of the fucking weirdo who publicly humps the flag.

We know the POTUS feels this way because just this week he publicly wished he could just get rid of judges

This is not how our country operates.  

If you don't like the law then work on legislation and change the fucking laws.  Of course this would require hard work and we know Trump doesn't have the time, patience or attention span to actually do that

I know this really hard and confusing for Trumptard to understand, most especially for the fat fucking crybaby snowflake in the White House
There's already laws in place, that's why they're called ILLEGAL immigrants, you fucking moron.
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2019, 01:52:23 AM »
There's already laws in place, that's why they're called ILLEGAL immigrants, you fucking moron.

He’s seriously got something seriously wrong with his thinking - He’s delusional
To say the Least.

The Fucking Idiot Cannot Even Admit or take on board That They are There Illegally
& Should Be Booted Out ASAP when caught / Found - Oh No Everyone Except the
Illegals are Wrong & The Sanctuary Cities/ States.

With so many Retards like him about and being able to vote it Fucking Worrying.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2019, 04:29:18 AM »
What is the problem with this

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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2019, 05:56:29 AM »
Straw Man and Prudence are the kind of "men" that when looking at a puddle of shit and vomit on a sidewalk in San Francisco don't see the disgusting truth but instead announce to the world that they see a "Picasso" and demand the pavement be laminated to protect the "work of art".


This truth bears repeating  throughout the forum and the real world.  They and their kind are vile and when the tide turns against them no civilized person should save them from drowning.  They deserve to be horribly and thoroughly violated by their creation.     

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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2019, 06:49:42 AM »
You asked for an answer but did not like the response.

You said it's because they don't have the funding. I  replied by suggesting it come from that imaginary border wall.
I do agree--we need a better solution to this problem. It's gotten out of hand. We CANNOT sustain our way of life with hundreds of thousands of people coming here. It's a drain on our system, and not fair to Americans.  Enough is enough--we've done our share to help the rest of the world.
This wall is too expensive and it's not going to make a dent in the drugs coming in.


Please tell me how Trump can do just 3 things right in your eyes, and give the justification for each.
What do u mean? Three things he can do in terms of the immigration problem?
1-improve the wall we have
2-hire many MANY more officers
3-do NOT go along with the Democrats and feel the need to spend money in OTHER fucking countries to give them a reason to want to stay in their home land.  Don't like your country? Sucks--but you can't sneak in here. Come legally.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2019, 10:25:29 AM »
Oh--i see..
SO the answer to that is the federal gvmt should break laws too?

He's giving the criminal liberals what they want (sanctuary cities in itself are Illegal especially since federal law overrides local law), called their bluff and as predicted, they backed down. Lets face it, he's light years smarter than the most sophisticated liberal and psychologically mind fucks them daily. You can't out maneuver him. Anyone with half a brain knew what the left's reaction would be....Trump wins again.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2019, 10:26:12 AM »
You said it's because they don't have the funding. I  replied by suggesting it come from that imaginary border wall.
I do agree--we need a better solution to this problem. It's gotten out of hand. We CANNOT sustain our way of life with hundreds of thousands of people coming here. It's a drain on our system, and not fair to Americans.  Enough is enough--we've done our share to help the rest of the world.
This wall is too expensive and it's not going to make a dent in the drugs coming in.
What do u mean? Three things he can do in terms of the immigration problem?
1-improve the wall we have
2-hire many MANY more officers
3-do NOT go along with the Democrats and feel the need to spend money in OTHER fucking countries to give them a reason to want to stay in their home land.  Don't like your country? Sucks--but you can't sneak in here. Come legally.
I agree with some of what you say and other times I scratch my head and wonder if maybe you were facefucked too hard.

In this post here I would say that improving the wall we currently have would also include expanding it to cover more of the border.
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2019, 12:01:12 PM »
Libatards are crying about ILLEGAL filth having illegal means carried out against them ? LOL  What is Illegal on sending them to sanctuary cities ???
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2019, 12:43:53 PM »
This kind of shit kills me, the media manipulation for democrats is blatant. Why is the quote from Trump the only time we see the words "illegal immigrants"?



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Trump sanctuary city idea could help some immigrants
 
By ASTRID GALVAN | Sat, April 13, 2019 03:10 EDT

PHOENIX (AP) — An idea floated by President Donald Trump to send immigrants from the border to "sanctuary cities" to exact revenge on Democratic foes could end up doing the migrants a favor by placing them in locations that make it easier to put down roots and stay in the country.
The plan would put thousands of immigrants in cities that are not only welcoming to them, but also more likely to rebuff federal officials carrying out deportation orders. Many of these locations have more resources to help immigrants make their legal cases to stay in the United States than smaller cities, with some of the nation's biggest immigration advocacy groups based in places like San Francisco, New York City and Chicago. The downside for the immigrants would be a high cost of living in the cities.
The Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University announced this week that an analysis found the likelihood of an immigrant in sanctuary cities such as New York and Los Angeles are 20% less likely to be arrested out in the community than in places without such policies.
"With immigrants being less likely to commit crimes than the U.S. born population, and with sanctuary jurisdictions being safer and more productive than non-sanctuary jurisdictions, the data damns this proposal as a politically motivated stunt that seeks to play politics with peoples' lives," said George Gascon, district attorney for San Francisco.
Trump has grown increasingly frustrated over the situation at the border, where tens of thousands of immigrant families are crossing each month, many to claim asylum. His administration has attempted several efforts to stop the flow and he recently shook up the top ranks of the Department of Homeland Security.
The idea to ship immigrants to Democratic strongholds was considered twice in recent months, but the White House and Department of Homeland Security said the plan had been rejected. But Trump said Friday he was still considering the idea.
"Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only," Trump tweeted. He added that, "The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!"
Wilson Romero is an immigrant from Honduras who chose to settle in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Romero, 27, was separated from his daughter, now 7, by federal authorities at the U.S. border at El Paso, Texas, last year and jailed for three months before being released and making his way to live with his mother in San Jose, California. There he was reunited with his daughter, who attends public kindergarten.
Romero says he goes about daily errands in public without worry of discrimination. His daughter has made friends and has playdates with the children of Mexican American families. It's a far cry from his hometown in the violence-plagued outskirts of San Pedro Sula, Honduras, that he fled after his brother-in-law was killed.
To him, the biggest problem with being in the Bay Area is the high cost of living. The former textile factory worker relies on his mother's income from waitressing for food and clothing, and he's started thinking about asking legal permission to move to North Carolina, where an uncle resides and says it's cheaper to live and work.
"To tell the truth, it's a little tight now, financially speaking," said Romero, a former textile factory worker, who He doesn't know of any charities that may be willing to help.
The plan discussed by Trump would also have financial, logistical and legal issues.
The transportation of immigrants who are arrested at the border to large and faraway cities would be burdensome and costly at a time when Immigration and Customs Enforcement is already stretched thin, having released over 125,000 immigrants into the country pending their immigration court since Dec. 21. They are currently being released mainly in border states.
Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency, and require multiple staffers, including an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights. Doing longer transports would increase liability for the agency, especially considering that many of the immigrants in its care are families with young children.
And despite the consideration given to releasing the immigrants on the streets to sanctuary cities, the Trump administration actually has plenty of jail space to detain families. As of April 11, the nation's three facilities to detain immigrant families were nowhere near capacity, including a Pennsylvania facility housing only nine immigrants.
It's also unclear how long the immigrants would stay in these cities because they are required to provide an address to federal authorities - typically of a family member - as a condition of their release.
"It's illogical," said Angela Chan, policy director and senior attorney with the San Francisco-based Asian Law Caucus. "It's just alarming that they are spending so much effort and so much time to engage in political theater."
The Trump administration has long pushed back against cities with sanctuary policies, which generally prohibit local authorities to cooperate with federal immigration police, often by refusing to hold people arrested on local charges past their release date at the request of immigration officers. Over 100 local governments around the country have adopted a variety of these polices
"New York City will always be the ultimate city of immigrants - the President's empty threats won't change that," New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio said in a statement.
But Trump seemed ready to step up his fight with the cities, vowing to "give them an unlimited supply" of immigrants from the border.
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Associated Press writers Morgan Lee and Karen Matthews contributed to this report.

Copyright 2019
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2019, 03:03:06 PM »
This kind of shit kills me, the media manipulation for democrats is blatant. Why is the quote from Trump the only time we see the words "illegal immigrants"?




Democrats often conflate legal immigration with illegal immigration to maintain their narrative.
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2019, 04:32:11 PM »
The problem is that it's ILLEGAL.



You fucking MORON.
Go away.

Unfortunately, that's not an insurmountable problem as we've seen during the last several years.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2019, 04:35:20 PM »
I agree with some of what you say and other times I scratch my head and wonder if maybe you were facefucked too hard.

In this post here I would say that improving the wall we currently have would also include expanding it to cover more of the border.
By imaginary, I mean the length of the wall this lunatic wants. That's never gonna happen.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2019, 04:40:21 PM »
But you agree, walls work?
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2019, 05:00:04 PM »
But you agree, walls work?

How can anyone agree that the work when: Roughly one-third of the U.S.-Mexico line, or 654 miles, has security fencing, according to extensive government reporting on the subject. It seems to me we can only predict how successful "the wall" might be at keeping out illegal immigrants.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2017/09/20/how-much-united-states-border-mexico-united-states-wall-built/647521001/

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2019, 06:21:34 PM »
How can anyone agree that the work when: Roughly one-third of the U.S.-Mexico line, or 654 miles, has security fencing, according to extensive government reporting on the subject. It seems to me we can only predict how successful "the wall" might be at keeping out illegal immigrants.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2017/09/20/how-much-united-states-border-mexico-united-states-wall-built/647521001/
What exactly is "security fencing"?
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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2019, 07:23:10 PM »
How can anyone agree that the work when: Roughly one-third of the U.S.-Mexico line, or 654 miles, has security fencing, according to extensive government reporting on the subject. It seems to me we can only predict how successful "the wall" might be at keeping out illegal immigrants.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2017/09/20/how-much-united-states-border-mexico-united-states-wall-built/647521001/

Or you could go watch the video of Trump visiting SD recently where the supervisor said that since they put the wall up captures have gone down like 76%, and the attacks on border officers over 50%.  Just a thought for you to learn, know what you're talking about, and have a cozy and pleasant evening sir.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2019, 07:32:58 PM »

What do u mean? Three things he can do in terms of the immigration problem?
1-improve the wall we have (Check- Not only improving, we ARE building new wall now that congress did not try to override his veto and the emergency declaration remains in place)
2-hire many MANY more officers (Check - they've been hiring pretty much since he came in, and even were going/did have some military go down there....they have to be trained, and once the wall is up they won't need as many)
3-do NOT go along with the Democrats and feel the need to spend money in OTHER fucking countries to give them a reason to want to stay in their home land.  Don't like your country? Sucks--but you can't sneak in here. Come legally. (Check- He cut off the aid that was supposed to go to mexica and south america, because they were using it properly.  *Added bonus, he threatened to shut down the border and the economy AND to start taxing the fuck out of their automobiles if they don't start protecting their border to protect ours in the next 12 months......they started right away)

I was talking just in general, since you seem to hate almost everything he does.....or you say so, but we can roll with just the border.  Oddly, your answers here tell me you should love Trump right now!  He must have picked your slip out of the suggestion box at the WH, because he's doing it all.  If you watched Fox, or at least some alt YT stations instead of sticking to the left's bought and paid media puppets you'd have some perspective on what's really going on vs. what "you need to know"

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2019, 07:43:10 PM »
Liberal queers like prudence and Vince and straw and Abe need to take I. All these illegals themselves

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2019, 05:00:59 AM »
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Sanctuary Cities Should Welcome Illegals, Unless Liberals Are Lying
Townhall.com ^ | April 14, 2019 | Derek Hunter
Posted on 4/14/2019, 6:24:09 AM by Kaslin

It was framed as a big scoop – the Washington Post headline blared, “White House proposed releasing immigrant detainees in sanctuary cities, targeting political foes.” “My God,” the blue checkmark brigade on Twitter gasped, “how dare the President of the United States even consider doing such a horrible thing?” But why? If liberals have been honest with the American public for the past few years, they not only should welcome every illegal alien they can find to their refuges, they should be thanking Donald Trump for his kindness to them.

Watching the story unfold was a bit odd, if you’ve paid even a little bit of attention to the debate over illegal immigration these last few years. Supposed journalists and “open-minded” progressive Democrats who’ve sworn six ways from Sunday that illegal aliens are our moral betters were outraged. Words like “dumping” and “punish” were used to describe the idea of releasing illegals, required by law to be set free, in jurisdictions that have laws protecting illegals from the consequences of their actions. You’d think a few more would be welcomed, considering those laws are designed to make them feel welcomed in the first place. You’d be wrong.

Almost to a person, anger was the order of the day from the left. But why?

Why wouldn’t cities like San Francisco welcome as many illegal aliens as possible? After all, we’ve been told by these very people, leaders in and from these sanctuary areas, that illegals commit fewer crimes than Americans and are an unbridled boon to the economy. Opposing their relocation would not only be missing an opportunity to lower the crime rate, but to bring about economic growth unrivaled since post-World War II.

Of course, they were lying to us. Only the most faithful, the people for whom MSNBC is too “fair,” ever really believed those lies. Everyone with more IQ points than fingers recognized these leftists were relieving themselves on the public while telling people it was raining. Now their bluff was called, and they folded like a cheap suit.

Still, the President should follow through on this idea. Make Democrats make the case against it. Let them explain how it’s “disrespectful” somehow and to whom, as Nancy Pelosi said.

The Mayor Oakland, California, Libby Schaaf, who made news last year by tipping off illegal alien criminals to ICE raids, shared her sentiments, which are common among the left. About the Post story, Schaaf said it was “(a)n outrageous abuse of power — using human beings to settle political scores. Our President wants to punish everyone; those who seek sanctuary in our country and those who provide it.”

Schaaf went so far as to call the idea “illegal, immoral, undemocratic, and racist,” though didn’t explain how. Granted, no one wants to move to Oakland, but how it’s racist remains a mystery.

In her local TV appearance, Schaaf repeated the standard lie that illegal immigrants “actually makes our city better and safer.” If that were so, why is she so outraged? Shouldn’t this idea be greeted with tickertape parades? Oakland isn’t exactly a safe city, the opportunity to reduce crime by importing people with higher moral character than the average American should be a net-plus, right?

The truth is illegal immigrants are a net drain on society. These aren’t people with PhDs and piles of seed money looking to create the next great start-up, they’re largely people who can’t speak English, with little to know education; many are illiterate in their native language. They will become the servant class for the liberal elite and their wealthy donors. More importantly to the left, they will be dependent on government.

Illegals, if liberals get their way, will count in the census. That means more federal money and continued overrepresentation in Democratic states. While Democrats support these things, they prefer it to happen under the radar. They don’t like it when crime and depressed wages can be traced to their policies. They don’t like it when people notice they’re picking up the tab for emergency rooms are flooded with non-English speakers, or schools have budget shortfalls and low test scores from the added cost of teaching kids who don’t speak the language. They hate reports gang activity and the inhuman violence of MS 13. They call all of these things racist to point out because there is no legitimate answer they can give.

But it’s never wealthy liberal areas impacted in these ways. The people inflicting this on their fellow Americans remain insulated from the consequences. It’s poor, mostly minority kids who suffer. It’s also poor minority kids who are inundated by these same liberal politicians and community leaders with the soul-crushing mantra that “the system is rigged against them.” They never mention how the system got “rigged,” they just attack Republicans and police as racist.

It wasn’t Republicans or the police who herded them into failing schools diverting resources to bilingual education. It wasn’t Republicans or police who keep entry level wages artificially low by flooding the market with unskilled labor. It wasn’t Republicans or the police who protect foreign gang members while neighborhoods are flooded with the opioids they peddle. To the extent that there is any rigging, the blame lies firmly with the people who set it up and have managed it for generations.

Of course, none of this matters. Minds will not be changed by words, no matter how true, from outside observers. This is the type of change that has to be realized from within. Bringing in more illegal aliens in the sunlight will shine some uncomfortable light on those problems, which is what liberals fear most.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and the calling of bluffs is as old as time. Both of those would be engaged if the Trump administration followed through with the plan reported Friday. That’s why liberals so desperately oppose it.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2019, 08:02:11 AM »
But you agree, walls work?

Somewhat. Yes. There HAS to be some sort of barrier at crucial KNOWN easily passable areas. Not the entire fucking thing. That's his ego that wants that.
Let's use some of that hi-tech REAL TIMEaerial surveillance the military used in Afghanistan . That could be up and running in 30 days I bet.
...for a tenth of the cost. Real eyes on real people trying to cross.
What's wrong with that idea?

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2019, 08:13:34 AM »
Somewhat. Yes. There HAS to be some sort of barrier at crucial KNOWN easily passable areas. Not the entire fucking thing. That's his ego that wants that.
Let's use some of that hi-tech REAL TIMEaerial surveillance the military used in Afghanistan . That could be up and running in 30 days I bet.
...for a tenth of the cost. Real eyes on real people trying to cross.
What's wrong with that idea?

What is Illegal on sending them to sanctuary cities ?
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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2019, 08:17:00 AM »
Google it idiot.

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Re: Trump admits REVENGE on sanctuary cities. He's like a spoiled kid
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2019, 08:30:15 AM »
Google it idiot.

arrhh I thought so....you dint know Morono  :)

Just like TinHat Man....full of shite
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