Mueller report is (finally) about to be released ( w minimal redactions?)

[Dos Equis]

"Actually, the Mueller Report that Russia DID affect the vote"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/19/actually-mueller-report-showed-that-russia-did-affect-vote/

Are you saying otherwise? Because that is completely insane.

Listen, don't start posting links you didn't read, because if I have the time and I feel like it, I just might read them.  This is an opinion piece.  All this fool did was say Russia hacked John Podesta's email (for which there is no proof) and the release of those truthful emails were mentioned in the media repeatedly, so they had to change votes.  Yeah real scientific analysis there.   


It may be — and appears to be — true that Russia didn’t manipulate actual voting results, changing a county’s pro-Clinton votes into pro-Trump ones. Perhaps the Oct. 7 warning played a role in that success. But Russia’s efforts absolutely affected the vote, as they were intended to — and as Trump and his campaign hoped they would.

How? Well, those Podesta emails for one. Mueller's indictments against a number of alleged Russian intelligence agents details how they accessed the Democratic National Committee network and Podesta's email account (among other targets) and transferred the data to WikiLeaks. There, the stolen material became a central component of the election coverage for much of the last month.


In October 2017, we made this graphic, showing how often WikiLeaks was mentioned on cable news, compared to former FBI director James B. Comey (whose last-minute announcement about Clinton’s email server certainly affected the results) and to “Access Hollywood.”

 
(Philip Bump/The Washington Post)
All of that conversation during the course of that month certainly had some effect.

[Dos Equis]

Beyond getting voters in the U.S. to follow Facebook or Twitter accounts and read fake news websites, the Russians translated their social media influence into real-life events. Posing as American grassroots activists, the trolls set up and promoted rallies in swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania, as well as at Trump properties in New York, according to the indictment. 
http://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

So Einstein...tell me how you can prove that DIDN'T influence voters.

Listen Einstein, they posted pro- and anti-Trump rallies.  lol  And how many people showed up at these rallies?? 

I don't have to prove a negative.  Absurd. 

[Prudence]

Listen Einstein, they posted pro- and anti-Trump rallies.  lol  And how many people showed up at these rallies?? 

I don't have to prove a negative.  Absurd. 

This post--makes ZERO sense.
Think about it.
And EINSTEIN--for the record I did read what I posted.
Your saying u have no proof that they didnt influence voters opinions. That statement is factually INCORRECT.
and it's been proven.

[Dos Equis]

This post--makes ZERO sense.
Think about it.
And EINSTEIN--for the record I did read what I posted.
Your saying u have no proof that they didnt influence voters opinions. That statement is factually INCORRECT.
and it's been proven.

I know, I've confused you with the facts.  It's ok.  You will survive. 

Read slowly:  Russian operatives organized political rallies in favor of Trump and against Trump.  They organized rallies in favor of Hillary and against Hillary. 

And again, Einstein, the link you posted is an opinion piece.  There is zero evidence that a single vote changed because Russia posted ads on facebook that nobody saw, etc. 

People, if you ever doubt that Trump Derangement is Real, read whatever "Prudence" posts on this board.  lol   

[Prudence]

I give up on you man---really.
It's like talking to a wall.

We disagree.
Time will tell.

[Dos Equis]

I give up on you man---really.
It's like talking to a wall.

We disagree.
Time will tell.

Yeah.  You post stream of consciousness partisan gobbledygook (complete with supersized font and pretty colors).  I try and help you with the facts.  You get frustrated.  I get it. 

But I am here to help.  First thing you should do is let all that anger out at the MSM for lying to you for two years about Trump being a Manchurian Candidate.   

[chaos]

There is zero evidence that a single vote changed because Russia posted ads on facebook that nobody saw, etc. 

This.

[Soul Crusher]

Another flop. 

[JustPlaneJane]

Yeah.  You post stream of consciousness partisan gobbledygook (complete with supersized font and pretty colors).  I try and help you with the facts.  You get frustrated.  I get it. 

But I am here to help.  First thing you should do is let all that anger out at the MSM for lying to you for two years about Trump being a Manchurian Candidate.   

The Democrats have no policy to stand on, so they have tried to use Russian collusion as a proxy to keep from having to acknowledge President Donald Trump’s historical economic success.

[JustPlaneJane]

Pg 2 of the Mueller report clearly states this and they have 100 pgs of evidence showing they did.
Plus, we have virtually EVERY US intelligence agency saying that Russia hacked the DNC, voter rolls , etc
We also know they had a "troll farm " that originated in St Petersburg that tried to influence voters on FB and other social media.

Once again, I'm NOT saying Trump was directly involved with Russia on this. The Mueller reports is clear about that.
BUT, we have a ton of evidence from highly credible sources that Russia did try to influence the 2016 election.
How much influence they had is nearly impossible to know.

You would definitely eat April Ryan’s ass.

[Soul Crusher]

Pg 2 of the Mueller report clearly states this and they have 100 pgs of evidence showing they did.
Plus, we have virtually EVERY US intelligence agency saying that Russia hacked the DNC, voter rolls , etc
We also know they had a "troll farm " that originated in St Petersburg that tried to influence voters on FB and other social media.

Once again, I'm NOT saying Trump was directly involved with Russia on this. The Mueller reports is clear about that.
BUT, we have a ton of evidence from highly credible sources that Russia did try to influence the 2016 election.
How much influence they had is nearly impossible to know.

False - stop lying.  The DNC was not hacked.  Assange himself said it was leaked and podesta responded to a phising attempt.   The hillcunt has only herself to blame for her loss.   

[Soul Crusher]

According to everyone of our intel services, they did.
https://mashable.com/2016/12/29/russian-hacking-fbi-dhs-report/

The problem is that people want to automatically assume 2 things from this:
1. Trump conspired with Russia to hack the DNC and election sites. He didn't!

2. Russia influenced voters enough to give the election to Trump.
There is no way of knowing how much actual impact they had on the vote.

Fact - Russia hacked into the DNC ,election sites and tried to influence voters via social media ( like Facebook).

NOT fact based - This fixed the election for Trump and he conspired with Russia.   

I think my conclusion is fair ,reasonable and based on facts.

Its Russia's fault that Hillarity didnt campaign in the rust belt and ran a miserable campaign?  Remember. she called 50% the country deplorables, ran on a craptastic platform, etc. 

Russia had ZERO to do with her losing.  You liberal twats just still can't accept it.   

[Board_SHERIF]

https://mashable.com/2016/12/29/russian-hacking-fbi-dhs-report/

I guess the FBI and DHS are fringe sources 
AGAIN, I'm NOT saying Trump was directing this or telling Russia to do it, etc.
But it's a basic FACT, that they hacked into the DNC and various elections sites and voter rolls.

Yes that is true - how many FBI have been fired - 3 or 4 now,  and how many criminal investigations are now open on the FBI - 7-9 now

[Soul Crusher]

You didn't read my reply .
I posted ; it's near IMPOSSIBLE to get an accurate measure of how the Russian hacking and influence affected the vote.

I also agree that Hillary ran a lousy campaign , isn't likeable and lacks charisma.

But that doesn't mean Russia didn't hack and try to influence things via social media. They did.

The answer is nothing.   Hillary lost all on her own.  Russia had no impact at all. 

[chaos]

That' possible and it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to really know for sure.

BUT we do know that they tried .

And we do know they've tried since 2014 at least, so why didn't Obama stop them?

[The Scott]

Democrats are playing with a fire of their own setting.  It is just and fitting  that the smoke will get in their own eyes.

And blind them all the more.   Call it the smoke of their own  hubris.

[chaos]

And we do know they've tried since 2014 at least, so why didn't Obama stop them?

Anyone

[The Scott]

Trumpers accusing dems of "hubris" is akin to the champion baked bean eater complaining that his friend farts .

Again, is it any wonder you've been divorced so many, many times?  IOL.