Author Topic: Wilder vs Breazale (Read 3868 times)

old-school-lifter · « **on:** May 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM »

Wilder by KO 6 rounds or less!

AJ-man up and fight WIlder , you've been ducking Wilder for 2 years

AbrahamG · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2019, 07:30:21 PM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on May 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM

Wilder by KO 6 rounds or less!

AJ-man up and fight WIlder , you've been ducking Wilder for 2 years

I'll go with Wilder too. Breazale is a dog though. If Deontay doesn't get him early, it could get good. Dominic gets stronger by the round.

nzmusclemonster · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2019, 07:45:44 PM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on May 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM

Wilder by KO 6 rounds or less!

AJ-man up and fight WIlder , you've been ducking Wilder for 2 years

Wilder isn't as dumb as he looks. He knows Joshua is far superior, so he's the one doing the ducking.

Ssxa · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2019, 02:18:29 PM »

Breazeale is durable, but he blocks punches with his face... spells disaster against Wilder.

honest · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2019, 02:47:35 PM »

Wilder ducked both Joshua and Fury to fight this tomato can. Hes average with a good punch at best, he knows he loses the rematch with Fury and Joshua will school him then knock him out. His belt is on borrowed time.

G_Thang · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2019, 12:01:06 AM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on May 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM

Wilder by KO 6 rounds or less!

AJ-man up and fight WIlder , you've been ducking Wilder for 2 years

LOL, wilder's team is stretching the fight out for more money and a grand cashout. Joshua fights off a strong high guard, punches in combos and has power in both hands. Who has wilder knockout with one punch lately? Spilka jumped into the counter and other single punch KOs were cruiserweights. You better take a close look at his boxrec. Brezeale is his 3rd legit top 10-15 HW. The rest are bullshit 700-900k fights Haymon was lining his pockets.

wes · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2019, 06:01:11 PM »

I hope Wilder gets the shit pounded out of him after beating a bunch of tomato cans while ducking Joshua and claiming he`s the GOAT..........but I don`t see it happening.

Desolate · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2019, 08:07:54 PM »

I really miss the days of good boxing.

It seems more and more that everything in this world eventually turns to shit.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2019, 04:00:07 AM »

The heavy weight division is garbage today. These guys would be journey men back in the day. Breazale didn't even start boxing till he was around 23 or so.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2019, 08:22:31 AM »

SO many idiots out there on insta world and the like calling Joshua the greatest ever!! HAHA
probably the same THICK AS SHIT FUCKS who said Conor Mcgregor in his first ever boxing match was gonna beat the nest boxer of the last 25 years HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wes · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2019, 01:54:02 PM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on May 17, 2019, 04:00:07 AM

The heavy weight division is garbage today. These guys would be journey men back in the day. Breazale didn't even start boxing till he was around 23 or so.

AMEN

che · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2019, 03:56:23 PM »

Quote from: wes on May 17, 2019, 01:54:02 PM

AMEN

X2

G_Thang · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:09:14 PM »

Virgil Hunter is ASS as a trainer. Outside of Ward ( a generational fighter), Hunter has done jack shit with fighters he has trained. Brezeale still fighting with his chin straight up vs on his chest like Duhaupas (a similar fighter to Brezeale but went 11 rounds b/c his team had him tuck his chin which most shots went to the bridge of the nose and forehead (Stiverne 1)). Hence, the final right was right on Breazeale's untucked chin. Hunter, the analytical trainer, or a lucky joe who stumbled upon a fatherless Ward?

Stiff with chin tucked behind a high guard

Stiff with chin exposed behind slapping jab

Desolate · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:16:54 PM »

First round KO by Wilder.

Imagine paying for this nonsense?

Thank God for the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-kGUCZ8pU

wes · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2019, 11:45:52 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 18, 2019, 10:09:14 PM

Virgil Hunter is ASS as a trainer. Outside of Ward ( a generational fighter), Hunter has done jack shit with fighters he has trained. Brezeale still fighting with his chin straight up vs on his chest like Duhaupas (a similar fighter to Brezeale but went 11 rounds b/c his team had him tuck his chin which most shots went to the bridge of the nose and forehead (Stiverne 1)). Hence, the final right was right on Breazeale's untucked chin. Hunter, the analytical trainer, or a lucky joe who stumbled upon a fatherless Ward?

Stiff with chin tucked behind a high guard

Stiff with chin exposed behind slapping jab

There`s not much a trainer can do with an already established fighter in one training camp.

That being said,Breazelle just plain old sux and now has nobody lefty to fight........he needs to retire or take a step down in class which would really be a step up in class in his case.

G_Thang · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2019, 12:54:23 AM »

Quote from: wes on May 18, 2019, 11:45:52 PM

There`s not much a trainer can do with an already established fighter in one training camp.

That being said,Breazelle just plain old sux and now has nobody lefty to fight........he needs to retire or take a step down in class which would really be a step up in class in his case.

Berto - No improvements
Khan - No improvements
Angulo - No improvements
Mares - He was going to get knocked out by Tank Davis in San Diego if he didn't come up with a fake injury. Hence, No improvements!

He has had these guys for multiple camps. Wish I had trained Ward, or just watched him train and collected that 10% of his purses.

How does Molina tuck his chin for 9-10 rounds vs Wilder?

Darren Avey · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2019, 01:18:57 AM »

Moontrane · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2019, 01:26:05 AM »

Wilder doesn’t seem any more skilled since be boxed Fury. Still, he has dynamite in both hands, especially his right.

At 223 lbs tonight, Wilder was 11 lbs heavier than when be boxed Fury. I don’t know if the weight gain is consequential,
but leaner is meaner – or so the saying goes.

Giggles and grins: Wilder’s reach is “83; Liston’s was “84.

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2019, 04:49:17 PM »

besides the frightening Right hand power
WIlder has pretty decent hand speed and he set up the KO with a nice 1,2
Breazale was setting up for a left hook and Wilder spotted the gap

Joshua is going to keep running until Wilder gets old, AJ is ducking FUry as well

Wilder is prime right now

chaos · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2019, 06:28:31 PM »

That light skinned Hebrew had no business being in there against that somalian fella.

G_Thang · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2019, 10:48:14 PM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on May 19, 2019, 04:49:17 PM

besides the frightening Right hand power
WIlder has pretty decent hand speed and he set up the KO with a nice 1,2
Breazale was setting up for a left hook and Wilder spotted the gap

Joshua is going to keep running until Wilder gets old, AJ is ducking FUry as well

Wilder is prime right now

Wilder could have fought Breazeale for 20 mil Saturday and AJ next on DAZN for 40 mil and he turned it down. If AJ is so easy, beat him and get all his belts. He only has like 22-23 fights. Yep, that's running. PBC and Al Haymon just phucked up Ortiz's (bi#ched him and had him fight wilder for 500k) 7 mil payday. Wilder is just like Vlad vs AJ, will have to try and land one punch vs a better version of Fury (Robbery) and Ortiz (knocked wilder out on his feet in the 7 round and PBC execs had to rig the fight between rounds on a 40+ yr old man with health issues). Yep AJ is running from Wilder, yep. Wilder and AJ have 3 common opponents. AJ knocked out 2 faster than Wilder but Wilder is Superman after knocking out a punching bag in a title eliminator. Oh, it was an eliminator b/c Fury beat the Alabama Clown.

johnny1 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2019, 12:46:42 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 19, 2019, 10:48:14 PM

Wilder could have fought Breazeale for 20 mil Saturday and AJ next on DAZN for 40 mil and he turned it down. If AJ is so easy, beat him and get all his belts. He only has like 22-23 fights. Yep, that's running. PBC and Al Haymon just phucked up Ortiz's (bi#ched him and had him fight wilder for 500k) 7 mil payday. Wilder is just like Vlad vs AJ, will have to try and land one punch vs a better version of Fury (Robbery) and Ortiz (knocked wilder out on his feet in the 7 round and PBC execs had to rig the fight between rounds on a 40+ yr old man with health issues). Yep AJ is running from Wilder, yep. Wilder and AJ have 3 common opponents. AJ knocked out 2 faster than Wilder but Wilder is Superman after knocking out a punching bag in a title eliminator. Oh, it was an eliminator b/c Fury beat the Alabama Clown.

yup....Breazele was a sitting duck way too slow out of the blocks and if you more or less just stand there waiting on a known puncher...well your going too get punched.

He won’t imo find Joshua just standing there watching paint dry while wilder throws those right hands, every time he throws off balance against Joshua, joshua is fast enough too move and counter with a much tighter defensive structure in his arsenal.

Everyone knows wilder can punch...so can Joshua the difference between the 2 is the Brit isn’t a 1 trick pony that imo will be the difference nobody is actually talking about what happens when Wlider gets the right from Joshua...

oldgolds · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2019, 07:12:35 AM »

Would a drug free Wilder beat Brazele?
A drug free Wilder would be skinny as a rail...

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2019, 04:53:24 PM »

Quote from: johnny1 on May 20, 2019, 12:46:42 AM

yup....Breazele was a sitting duck way too slow out of the blocks and if you more or less just stand there waiting on a known puncher...well your going too get punched.

He won’t imo find Joshua just standing there watching paint dry while wilder throws those right hands, every time he throws off balance against Joshua, joshua is fast enough too move and counter with a much tighter defensive structure in his arsenal.

Everyone knows wilder can punch...so can Joshua the difference between the 2 is the Brit isn’t a 1 trick pony that imo will be the difference nobody is actually talking about what happens when Wlider gets the right from Joshua...

AJ can def KO wilder, any of his opponents can because Wilder leaves himself open (not technically a great defensive fighter or boxer), Breazale caught WIlder with 2 right hands too.

I never said AJ cant beat Wilder- he def is the better boxer technically and his power is also as good and also with his left hook

im saying why doesn't Aj just make the fight? he knows its a dangerous fight...……….WIlder wants it, AJ keeps running- it s a mega payday for both

AbrahamG · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2019, 06:28:18 PM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on May 23, 2019, 04:53:24 PM

AJ can def KO wilder, any of his opponents can because Wilder leaves himself open (not technically a great defensive fighter or boxer), Breazale caught WIlder with 2 right hands too.

I never said AJ cant beat Wilder- he def is the better boxer technically and his power is also as good and also with his left hook

im saying why doesn't Aj just make the fight? he knows its a dangerous fight...……….WIlder wants it, AJ keeps running- it s a mega payday for both

AJ is exclusively tied to DAZN. Wilder is a free agent. DAZN offered Wilder a huge deal. Like 60-80 million for 3 fights. One of them would have been Breazale and the other two would have been with AJ.

Wilder should have made the deal, bet on himself and if he came out victorious he'd be on top of the mountain calling all the shots.