Author Topic: Before we wised up (Read 4899 times)

dan18 · « **on:** May 21, 2019, 09:08:12 AM »

I truly think the late 80s and 90s was a suckers paradise for sup companies
Vanadyl Sulphate
19 nor, andro
Phosphatidylserine

Orchic testosterone extract

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:14:38 AM »

MuscleMix
Boron
Liver Tabs

OneMoreRep · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:15:18 AM »

Quote from: dan18 on May 21, 2019, 09:08:12 AM

I truly think the late 80s and 90s was a suckers paradise for sup companies
Vanadyl Sulphate
19 nor, andro
Phosphatidylserine

Orchic testosterone extract

You're not kidding. Supplement companies preyed on the ignorance of amateur bodybuilders + hobbyists. Professionals always knew that only steroids truly worked for any appreciable gain in muscle mass. The rest of those powders facilitated water retention and gave you the runs.

Hell, the most impressive things about most of the supplements back then were the labels they would plop on the bottles.

"1"

dan18 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:22:19 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on May 21, 2019, 09:14:38 AM

MuscleMix
Boron
Liver Tabs

Smilax Officinalis
Ecdysterone

dan18 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:26:11 AM »

Hot Stuff
Cybergenics
Mega Mass 2000

Prudence · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:27:00 AM »

And GNC fucked over tons of people with their "club" thing--whatever it was called.

Powerlift66 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:28:53 AM »

Some good stuff did come out of it w/ Duchaine though, Ultimate Orange, Ephedrine, and th en a handful of PH's that worked (Epi, etc).

some livers were damaged with M1T also, more potent oral than D-Bol sold in Supp Shops back in the day. (1Fast400, etc).

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:32:41 AM »

Quote from: dan18 on May 21, 2019, 09:26:11 AM

Hot Stuff
Cybergenics
Mega Mass 2000

Franco Santoriello built his whole physique on Cybergenics.

At least Hot Stuff tasted really good. Mega Mass 2000 really did make me gain a little weight because I was so constipated from drinking that cement like shake I couldn't shit for a week.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:37:35 AM »

Quote from: dan18 on May 21, 2019, 09:26:11 AM

Hot Stuff
Cybergenics
Mega Mass 2000

Original Hot Stuff was awesome. It worked. The next versions sucked ass.

Mega Mass 2000 worked too. It did put on weight. Fat, still you weighed more. Hell of a lot of carbs in it.

MetRx - when it was so strong it had to come in two containers. The mix and the "base". So strong they couldn't ship it in one container.

Fortress · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:40:20 AM »

In my younger days as an enthusiast I certainly wasted a heck of a lot of dough on fart powders and (usually monstrous) pills.

What a racket.

dan18 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:42:10 AM »

Quote from: Prudence on May 21, 2019, 09:27:00 AM

And GNC fucked over tons of people with their "club" thing--whatever it was called.

dan18 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:43:35 AM »

Quote from: Fortress on May 21, 2019, 09:40:20 AM

In my younger days as an enthusiast I certainly wasted a heck of a lot of dough on fart powders and (usually monstrous) pills.

What a racket.

Amino horse pills

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:46:40 AM »

Quote from: Fortress on May 21, 2019, 09:40:20 AM

In my younger days as an enthusiast I certainly wasted a heck of a lot of dough on fart powders and (usually monstrous) pills.

What a racket.

I'm sure the marketers and "scientists" in the lab coats in ads got a good laugh at us spending all of our hard earned money from our high school jobs on their shit powders thinking we would get jacked.

IroNat · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2019, 10:15:41 AM »

Quote from: Humble Narcissist on May 21, 2019, 09:32:41 AM

Franco Santoriello built his whole physique on Cybergenics. At least Hot Stuff tasted really good. Mega Mass 2000 really did make me gain a little weight because I was so constipated from drinking that cement like shake I couldn't shit for a week.

You have a gift with language.

I feel like I'm there on the toilet with you.

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2019, 10:31:14 AM »

Quote from: IroNat on May 21, 2019, 10:15:41 AM

You have a gift with language.

I feel like I'm there on the toilet with you.

I felt constipated writing that just thinking about Mega Mass 2000.

Howard · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2019, 10:46:49 AM »

Quote from: Prudence on May 21, 2019, 09:27:00 AM

And GNC fucked over tons of people with their "club" thing--whatever it was called.

Gold card, save 20% 1st Tuesday of the month

ratherbebig · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2019, 10:53:22 AM »

no supplements

no sponsors to mr olympia

no mr olympia

no bodybuidling magazines

no fun

you should be proud you put your money on supplements

if they didnt work for you then thats your fault. food works. protein powder = food. if you cant get food to work for you then see a doctor NOW because something is wrong with you.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2019, 10:56:16 AM »

But the Cell tech/nitro tech stack did actually work.
I put on 27.442 lbs of muscle and 45lbs on my bench press in days with that

BB · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:04:34 AM »

I didn't get clipped too bad because the first guys I really paid attention to were Duchaine and Poliquin, who were decent about not suckering you back then. I did fall for the first generation andro products for a couple of months during the big home run faceoff of '98, chromium picolinate, and one bottle of Vanadyl Sulfate. And I remember really wanting to try HMB, but it was hugely expensive for my teenage wallet at around $60 a bottle, and when I finally had the money, the hype had died off.

The one that I really hated though was EAS's Phosphagain. It was their 1st generation meal replacement with creatine, and I bought it because it seem like a good deal compared to Phosphagen HP and regular Phospagen, which were just creatine or creatine and carbs. Absolutely horrid stuff, it only came in a really salty vanilla flavor, and came out of a tin can and had a consistency that could be mistaken for instant potato flakes. If I didn't pay $65 (1997 prices, on sale), I would have tossed it the 3rd shake in.

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Hulkotron · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:08:25 AM »

What was the Orange pre-workout everyone swore by?

BB · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:09:57 AM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on May 21, 2019, 11:08:25 AM

What was the Orange pre-workout everyone swore by?

Duchaine's Ultimate Orange by Designer Protein.

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Edit, here's the formula -

Ultimate Orange -

Carbohydrates - 16g
Protein - 25g
MaHuang shooting for a standardization of 8% - 415mg (about 33mg of Ephedrine)
Caffeine was around 300mg in the form of Gurana.

Also while the ephedrine and caffeine numbers seem in line with products of the day, it also had dosing guidelines that put your average to large sized bodybuilder around 2 - 2 1/2 that per serving.

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:15:03 AM »

Ultimate Orange was the best pre workout supplement ever!

dan18 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:23:35 AM »

Quote from: Humble Narcissist on May 21, 2019, 11:15:03 AM

Ultimate Orange was the best pre workout supplement ever!

I felt like I could lift a house on that shit

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:25:50 AM »

Quote from: dan18 on May 21, 2019, 11:23:35 AM

I felt like I could lift a house on that shit

The first time I used it I broke my pr on bench. I also did like twice as many sets in that workout and didn't want to quit. Felt a little psycho as well.

Powerlift66 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2019, 01:33:33 PM »

Quote from: Humble Narcissist on May 21, 2019, 11:25:50 AM

The first time I used it I broke my pr on bench. I also did like twice as many sets in that workout and didn't want to quit. Felt a little psycho as well.

I would pop an ephedrine tabs, and drink a serving of UO. Talk about getting geeked up for a workout.
Nowadays, I hate stims...