Stumbling Mumbling Old Fool Mueller

[Agnostic007]

What the heck difference does it make when he made up his mind if the firing was supported by both the Deputy AG and the IG?  

Again, tell me in your own words how Trump firing Comey obstructed the Muller investigation.  

Again.. its's there to read. Pages 62-77 of Vol 2 the report. It is a concern and MAY have been obstruction but there are roughtly 6 better examples than again...are available for anyone who cares to educate themselves. I personally would not pick this one as there are better.  but reading the unethical crap that went on, as layed out by his own staff, should be concerning

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

[Dos Equis]

Again.. its's there to read. Pages 62-77 of Vol 2 the report. It is a concern and MAY have been obstruction but there are roughtly 6 better examples than again...are available for anyone who cares to educate themselves. I personally would not pick this one as there are better.  but reading the unethical crap that went on, as layed out by his own staff, should be concerning

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

I see.  So you got nothing on that one.  I think any reasonable person reading this thread can see you are unable to answer a simple question. 

I tell you what, pick one of the "better examples" and explain to me in your words how that example obstructed the Mueller investigation. 

[Agnostic007]

I see.  So you got nothing on that one.  I think any reasonable person reading this thread can see you are unable to answer a simple question. 

I tell you what, pick one of the "better examples" and explain to me in your words how that example obstructed the Mueller investigation. 

I think reasonable people would see I am desperately sending the same message Bob Mueller sent. READ THE DAMN REPORT FOR YOURSELF! Turn off the American Idol and  Bachelor and take a few hours to READ THE DAMN REPORT

[Dos Equis]

I think reasonable people would see I am desperately sending the same message Bob Mueller sent. READ THE DAMN REPORT FOR YOURSELF! Turn off the American Idol and  Bachelor and take a few hours to READ THE DAMN REPORT

So not only are you unable to tell me in your own words how Trump firing Comey obstructed the Mueller investigation, you are unable to give any of the "better examples" of your choosing and explain in your own words how that instance obstructed the Mueller investigation. 

Pretty funny.   

[Agnostic007]

So not only are you unable to tell me in your own words how Trump firing Comey obstructed the Mueller investigation, you are unable to give any of the "better examples" of your choosing and explain in your own words how that instance obstructed the Mueller investigation.  

Pretty funny.  

 

I'm reading through it as we speak. I am aware of the Getbig Tit for tat mentality so I get your post. The thing is, I could spend days explaining to you the unethical behaviors of Donald Trump to which I have no doubt you would explain away or discard. So I am imploring you and others to READ THE DAMN REPORT. You can ignore this and remain safe in your cocoon or you could actually READ THE DAMN REPORT

Seriously, all kidding aside. I know it is fashionable to fight back and forth, but if you really are interested in what went on the report is full of info. If not.. then its politics as usual. Remember the Meuller report is fashioned from FBI interviews of almost everyone involved.   The most damning information comes from people who are pro trump and were in his close circle of friends. The statements are in quotes and dated.  I will say, had Trump not had some folks in his administration who flat out refused or ignored his directives, it would be even worse than it was.

[Dos Equis]

 

I'm reading through it as we speak. I am aware of the Getbig Tit for tat mentality so I get your post. The thing is, I could spend days explaining to you the unethical behaviors of Donald Trump to which I have no doubt you would explain away or discard. So I am imploring you and others to READ THE DAMN REPORT. You can ignore this and remain safe in your cocoon or you could actually READ THE DAMN REPORT

Seriously, all kidding aside. I know it is fashionable to fight back and forth, but if you really are interested in what went on the report is full of info. If not.. then its politics as usual. Remember the Meuller report is fashioned from FBI interviews of almost everyone involved.   The most damning information comes from people who are pro trump and were in his close circle of friends. The statements are in quotes and dated.  I will say, had Trump not had some folks in his administration who flat out refused or ignored his directives, it would be even worse than it was.

 

[Agnostic007]

Good answer

[Dos Equis]

Good answer

Don't push it.  That's my way of not saying anything rude or disrespectful.  lol

[Agnostic007]

Don't push it.  That's my way of not saying anything rude or disrespectful.  lol

That is fine with me. And again... I encourage you to take some time and read the volume 2 on obstruction. You may read it differently than me. 

[mazrim]

Hasn't it now been discovered that Mueller edited the conversation by Dowd?

[Princess L]

Hasn't it now been discovered that Mueller edited the conversation by Dowd?

Yes

[Princess L]

Again.. its's there to read. Pages 62-77 of Vol 2 the report. It is a concern and MAY have been obstruction but there are roughtly 6 better examples than again...are available for anyone who cares to educate themselves. I personally would not pick this one as there are better.  but reading the unethical crap that went on, as layed out by his own staff, should be concerning

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

V. RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINKS To AND CONTACTS WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN The Office identified multiple contacts-"links," in the words of the Appointment Order­between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government. The Office investigated whether those contacts constituted a  third avenue of attempted Russian interference with or influence on the 2016 presidential election. In particular, the investigation examined whether these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a  conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination.

[Board_SHERIF]

 

I'm reading through it as we speak. I am aware of the Getbig Tit for tat mentality so I get your post. The thing is, I could spend days explaining to you the unethical behaviors of Donald Trump to which I have no doubt you would explain away or discard. So I am imploring you and others to READ THE DAMN REPORT. You can ignore this and remain safe in your cocoon or you could actually READ THE DAMN REPORT

Seriously, all kidding aside. I know it is fashionable to fight back and forth, but if you really are interested in what went on the report is full of info. If not.. then its politics as usual. Remember the Meuller report is fashioned from FBI interviews of almost everyone involved.   The most damning information comes from people who are pro trump and were in his close circle of friends. The statements are in quotes and dated.  I will say, had Trump not had some folks in his administration who flat out refused or ignored his directives, it would be even worse than it was.

unethical behaviors of Donald Trump according to you ? no offence you are a no-body.

Many of us have read the report and conclude it is a poor attempt at a stitch up job.

So again tell us in your own words - 2 examples of obstruction that would incarcerate a regular person if it was not Trump. Should be easy right ??

[mazrim]

Yes

So essentially he tried to put everything in as bad a light as possible and still came up with nothing but was able to still keep those who don't care enough to factcheck or know what the legal standard is in his back pocket.

[chaos]

unethical behaviors of Donald Trump according to you ? no offence you are a no-body.

Many of us have read the report and conclude it is a poor attempt at a stitch up job.

So again tell us in your own words - 2 examples of obstruction that would incarcerate a regular person if it was not Trump. Should be easy right ??

He won't answer, he'll come back with "read the report". The report that is loaded with speculation, rumors and heresy. 

[Dos Equis]

Yes

Absolutely outrageous. 

[Dos Equis]

unethical behaviors of Donald Trump according to you ? no offence you are a no-body.

Many of us have read the report and conclude it is a poor attempt at a stitch up job.

So again tell us in your own words - 2 examples of obstruction that would incarcerate a regular person if it was not Trump. Should be easy right ??

He won't answer, he'll come back with "read the report". The report that is loaded with speculation, rumors and heresy. 

Of course not.  I asked him at least 5 or 6 times.

[Dos Equis]

So essentially he tried to put everything in as bad a light as possible and still came up with nothing but was able to still keep those who don't care enough to factcheck or know what the legal standard is in his back pocket.

Which is exactly what happens when it is spearheaded by a guy who was rejected as FBI Director by Trump (Mueller), likely written by a guy who was at Clinton's election night party (Weisman), with the assistance of prosecutors who donated to Clinton's campaign.   

[jude2]

Absolutely outrageous. 

Wow this is really crazy.

[Primemuscle]

Now how dumb is that??  (No, not calling you dumb.)  So Trump intended to obstruct the Mueller investigation by firing Comey, despite the fact there was zero actual obstruction of the investigation?  And despite the fact Trump had the Constitutional authority to fire Comey for any reason?  And despite the fact an independent IG investigation concluded Comey was insubordinate?  And despite the fact the Deputy AG wrote a memo recommending Comey's firing?  And despite the fact the entire investigation was a sham?

You're ok with your tax dollars being spent on this foolishness? 

Most of us understand that Trump is prone to ridiculousness. He ignored all advice to not fire Comey. Tell me this, if Trump wasn't trying to obstruct justice or at least derail the FBI investigation and Comey, why did he bother firing him?

Like you, I have little control over how our tax dollars are spent.

[Board_SHERIF]

Most of us understand that Trump is prone to ridiculousness. He ignored all advice to not fire Comey. Tell me this, if Trump wasn't trying to obstruct justice or at least derail the FBI investigation and Comey, why did he bother firing him?

Like you, I have little control over how our tax dollars are spent.

For the same reasons Clinton and the DemoCraps wanted to, the bloke was incompetent. Are you saying the DemoCraps and the GOP were both wrong on this ??

[Dos Equis]

Most of us understand that Trump is prone to ridiculousness. He ignored all advice to not fire Comey. Tell me this, if Trump wasn't trying to obstruct justice or at least derail the FBI investigation and Comey, why did he bother firing him?

Like you, I have little control over how our tax dollars are spent.

No he didn't.  The Deputy AG wrote a memo recommending that Comey be fired. 

[Primemuscle]

No he didn't.  The Deputy AG wrote a memo recommending that Comey be fired. 

At whose direction?

[Dos Equis]

At whose direction?

What difference does that make?  The Deputy AG signed it, so it was his recommendation.  Plus the IG wrote a report saying Comey was insubordinate.  In any event, it is factually incorrect to say Trump "ignored all advice to not fire Comey." 

[JustPlaneJane]

Has Jerrold Nadler put AG Barr in jail yet?

For chrissakes those Democrat idiots can’t accomplish anything they promise