Banned from ironage.us

[willie mosconi]

The only thing that is worthwhile about the Ironage board is the old pictures. It is pointless to even read the threads. It is a broken record. The worst discussion board in the industry BY FAR.

[sculpture]

The only thing that is worthwhile about the Ironage board is the old pictures. It is pointless to even read the threads. It is a broken record. The worst discussion board in the industry BY FAR.

I'll second that. The odd reminiscing is good and old pictures but thats it. You should just start treating it as a repository for old pictures.

[Bix]

They banned me too , about two dozen times LOL

[alexxx]

They banned me too , about two dozen times LOL

lool that makes me feel better!

Then banned me only twice.

[Bix]

No, there were awesomes pics.
They have banned all the guys who were posting nice pics.
Now, there are only shit pics (they even don't know how to use a scanner correctly...)
It is not a board, it is a sect.

He He , I used to post some pics there, but then they banned me , why you might ask?, because I was a BAD boy .

[Bix]

Forget about excessive moderation, censorship, and getting banned. This is all you need to know about ironage.us.

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What possible harm could be caused by letting interested people READ the forums? IMHO, requiring registration just to READ the forums is totally irrational and borders on paranoia.

If the site owner is truly interested in telling the world how wonderful bodybuilders were in the good old days, why wouldn't he want to make it easy for everyone to read the forums?

Prehaps because he didn't want bannies like me veiwing it? I still go there any time I dam well feel like it 

[Bix]

Well if you were posting Robby Robinson pictures intentionally I can understand why you were banned.   

To think that FLEX and GMV listened to his requests to remove his pictures - pictures he had no right to make such requests about.

I have no problems posting these pictures - they are property of www.ifbbtv.com and not Robby!

Hey, take that dang picture DOWN .
I command you!
Bix aka Captin Bixby RRPD

[HowieW]

I was banned from IA for a bit becuase I kept posting my ideas and thoughts on drug use.
Ironage is a great site and they try to keep bodybuilding in a positive light. Like many here , they don't want to get bogged down with a "drug tirade". We all know it has been a part of our sport for many years and is not fully understoood by the avg person or sports media.
Overall the IA sie is a great place to see the classic physiques. As many have already stated, they tell you what the site is about before you start , so you know what to do there.
I am glad to have access to it again and enjoy many of the pics and threads of a great time in bodybuilding.
I look at the drug issue with a "whatever" attitude" these days. I wish it was NOT part of our game, but it is, so I accept it and just enjoy he whole scene for what it is these days.
Howard

[pumpster]

You were banned for experessing an opinion, but it's a great site? 

[alexxx]

You were banned for experessing an opinion, but it's a great site? 

lol I am sure Howard is just saying that cause he wants to keep posting on ironage.

[bmacsys]

I agree that some of the opinions on that board are bordering on what could probably be classed as delusional.  I say this coming from an extensive background in psychology. 

So your a psychologist now? Give me a break. As far as being delusional have you ever read any of the nutty posts that come from this forum versus Ironage?

[Unchained81]

yeah i dont post there too often as i found early on that there is to be NO differences of opinion there...they trash modern pros to their hearts content but god help you if you say anything disparaging about any of their idols...there is no doubt that they all live in a like-minded bubble and anyone challenging that will be flamed.

Actaully you can dog the current bbers, except the ones Shawn Perine is friends with.  Basically you have to be able to read Perine's mind to last there.  I was banned for making a negative remark about Vince Mcmahon and how he has turned wrestling into a porno show and treats the wrestlers like animals.  I was just stating that I didn't respect him as he has no morals.  Vince is supposedly Perine's "friend" (I doubt Vince has a clue who he is, but Perine claims they are close) so I guess all the things he has done to the wrestlers and the things he has put on his shows that children are watching is O.K.  Perine acts like the IA site is some kind of moral high-ground of bbing, yet if someone is his "friend" they get a free pass.  I never used profanity or personally attacked anyone.  He posts about how distorted the current scene is, but if you make a joke about Ronnie or Jay's gut, he warns you about personal attacks.  LOL.

[Vince B]

Hey, Matt, man to man now. Discuss this issue with me here and now.

 Do you agree that others can have their own bodybuilding sites and run them as they like? If so, then your posts here amount to some sort of crusade that you are a victim or something. If you are educated and intelligent then you should be able to discern when you are following rules and when you are trespassing. Your posts here amount to personal attacks against many of those people and the community collectively. I take it you are upset that you can't post there and feel an injustice has occurred? Posting your feelings here is aggravating an already poor position that you are in. You are proverbially painting yourself into a corner. Now you come here and sound like it is sour grapes. You know, Ironage sucks and the people there are not very cool or whatever it is that you see as being worthwhile. I would hope that you learn one day soon that attacking others like you have done in this thread, even if you feel justified, is bad form. The internet is not a good place to hold debates about goodness, personalities and right and wrong. That the people who you attack are not defending themselves here should alert you that you are pontificating and behaving badly. Sometimes being a man means to accept unfair treatment and try to not get others upset in the future. The fault, surely, does not reside only in the deficiencies of others.

I have little interest in debating the specifics that you are referring to. Suffice is it that those who do control their site don't want you there. That might be a bitter pill to swallow and you obviously will keep shouting your innocence. Your performance here is questionable from an ethical point of view because you are doing what you claim has been done to you. In other words, the more you argue the deeper the hole you are digging for yourself. If you have been maltreated then let others speak for you. I haven't seen too many come forward so far. That alone doesn't prove they are right and you are wrong. However, surely you have the capacity to figure out what went down and how to avoid such things happening again? Ironage is not interested in many of the issues that are hotly debated here. I find Getbig a worry and wonder when it will be my turn to get tarred and feathered. I think the guys here, on the whole, give as they get and you really have to annoy others to get lots of nastiness back. One thing will never end and that is the controversies in our sport. That we have places where we can interact with others is a wonderful thing. In the past the only way to find out about bodybuilders was through magazines. Now we have the instant internet and I wonder sometimes if it is an improvement?

Bottom line is, even though you are an intelligent guy, this thread is nothing more than a rant. You have an agenda and are using this forum to get some revenge against an injustice that you felt occurred to you. Trouble is you ended up showing others why you got booted in the first place. QED.

[pumpster]

Do you agree that others can have their own bodybuilding sites and run them as they like? If so, then your posts here amount to some sort of crusade that you are a victim or something.

It would be nice to see you with a little more self-awareness in regard to your bias. Using a term like crusade toward one person while ignoring the fact that the sentiments are quite obviously shared by others further highlights your own leanings; there's no balance, man.

You state the obvious-obviously they can run the site with any degree of pettiness & xenophobia they choose. You compromise your position by failing to address the other half of the equation-that your skewed sentiments are not shared by others; Matt is far from alone in his sentiments. I see no acknowledgement of this in your long-winded, one-sided statements. FYI most of us end up skimming most of it because you keep repeating yourself from one sentence to the next-is that senility? 

Try a balanced approach if you want to be taken seriously. As it is you're a good example of an IA regular, which you are.

[Ron]

Once again - Ironage is Shawn's website, and his rules. Respect them. Don't like them - don't go there. Simple as that. But complaining about someone's rules strikes me as funny. As for Shawn, I respect him, and when he comes back from New York / Atlanta, I intend to have lunch with him and dicuss life, bodybuilding talk, and whatever issues as friends.

The same goes for any other site. Like television, if you don't like Channel 7, then don't tune in. If you don't like their rules, dont go there

[HowieW]

Actaully you can dog the current bbers, except the ones Shawn Perine is friends with.  Basically you have to be able to read Perine's mind to last there.  I was banned for making a negative remark about Vince Mcmahon and how he has turned wrestling into a porno show and treats the wrestlers like animals.  I was just stating that I didn't respect him as he has no morals.  Vince is supposedly Perine's "friend" (I doubt Vince has a clue who he is, but Perine claims they are close) so I guess all the things he has done to the wrestlers and the things he has put on his shows that children are watching is O.K.  Perine acts like the IA site is some kind of moral high-ground of bbing, yet if someone is his "friend" they get a free pass.  I never used profanity or personally attacked anyone.  He posts about how distorted the current scene is, but if you make a joke about Ronnie or Jay's gut, he warns you about personal attacks.  LOL.

Ok, here is the deal becuase I wondered this myself. The ironage site was helpful in Shawn getting his position as a writter for FLEX so he values it and it is "his baby". In the end it is his site and his decision to decide what gets posted there. Flex and bodybuilding has done some stuff with the higher profile WWE folks, so it is natural he would not want to rock that boat for business reasons. I simply enjoy the site for what it is, no more, no less.
Howard

[NarcissisticDeity]

Vince very well put !! here here !!

Matt you say you have a extensive backround in psychology , if thats the case one of the first things they teach in Psyc 101 is to evaluate yourself and if you do that you'll find yourself projecting yourself onto others , calling them delsuional , yet you keep insisting you were banned for mearly stating a contrary opinion , when in fact you were warned a few times before the old heave ho , and the straw the broke the camels back was you circumventing thier site to post profanity , so this makes you delusional to the fact you know exactly why you were banned , don't call the kettle black

It all reminds me of Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.  The one who tried desperately to travel back in time.  I really felt sorry for him.  I shouldn't feel bad for being banned by a bunch of old guys whose probably only sanctuary from life is some internet message board where alternate opinion is disallowed.  I have a lot of things they probably lack: my youth, my hairline, ability to get with young hot women, etc.  Sounds petty but for ANYONE to take a message board as seriously as they do really speaks for their character and quality of life and not in a good way.  Am I reading too much into this?  I doubt it.

This quote showed your age and your EQ ( emotional quotient ) and again you complain about others on internet message boards and you're a member of at least 4 of these said boards , so pot is calling the kettle black once again , and how tacky everyone is jealous of Matt ? and I thought I was Narcissistic , and once again your delusion rears its ugly head when you accuse the Ironage guys of taking a message board to seriously when you're doing the exact same thing

You're sounding like a jealous boyfriend who got dumped by his girlfriend and now goes around bad mouthing her and wanting every one to take your side , bottom line their house their rules , you were getting warned you didn't yeild you paid the price and now you consider yourself a victim , especially with statements like this

I'm happy this thread exists.  I feel it's important to warn others of what goes on over there.

Matt is now a messageboard Martyr  how obnoxious can one get? anyway you're a 100% responsible for being banned , accept your responsiblity and move forward and what do you care about Ironage for? you have your own site and you set the rules , go to www.bodybuildingpro.com and set your own rules and ban anyone who doesn't obey you , it will make you feel good lol

[gtbro1]

I don't think those guys are as harsh as people here are letting on....heck I was over there and there was a thread about celebrating the ironage or something...it was a thread full of the old classic arnold and Franco pics...good pics.Pics from the original Golds Gym. Well I was in no way trying to get banned like some of these guys did,that is silly, but I posted a pic of Ron Coleman in their thread of classic pics. After I did it,however,I thought "I bet that will get me booted off of here"...but I just left it and figured I would see if they were as hostile about things as people have been saying. NOBODY GOT UPSET...not really.All that was said was "Different eras by 36 years!"..and they posted a link to a thread that explains their site.It is their board and they have the right to say what goes on there..sure it is a free world or whatever you want to say,but it is just like when someone who smokes comes to your house,and if you are a non smoker and tell them you do not allow people to smoke in your house.OF COARSE they have the right to smoke if they want to!..but not if they are in YOUR HOUSE AND YOU SAID NO SMOKING!!...That is sort of a silly example maybe but it is the same scenario.

[CQ]

I really could not care less about ironage. Every board has their own style and people have their own tastes. Many people query why I like to post on this board...as it has a 'bad rep'

That being said, I have never seen Matt make any type of really rude, insensitive or troll-like post, only interesting and informative ones. I see no reason at all to ban the guy myself, but it is their site, their rules.

[sculpture]

Their stringent rules, excessive censorship and subversivion will only hurt them in the long rule. Dwindling memberships and an increasingly insular environment that has earned itself a bad rep is the fate of ironage!

[jaejonna]

From Ironage Board....

"Well matt c is a bonified nerd,  this kid think he knows about working out

he has posted pics of himself on getbig, he's nothing but a scrawny nerd

who  in arnolds words "is nothing"  its funny how he is always writing about

how to work out and putting down old school body builders, when he himself

has nothing for a build."


One day they are thanking him for his contributions to the board the next day he gets crapped on like a toliet and is being put down in a fashion that is bann-able ....

Disscuss

[jacshelb]

Jesus Christ!  Let it Fucking Go!  You want the "Balanced" truth?  Ironage is filled with tight assed stuffy old men and Getbig is populated with nerdy pimple faced teenage trolls.  Fuck, is anyone really going to argue that?!  Ok, so, we've got the "rebelious" youth VS. the "establishment."  It has been done before..... again and again and again.....  Why is anyone with half a brain really getting upset over all this?  Well, because, again it's the stuffy old men vs. the teenage punks.  And, when you fit well into either category, you just can't help yourself.

I've been reprimanded or attacked on both boards for basically nothing.  Has anyone, I mean, anyone ever not been attatcked unfairly at some point?   On here, I post a pic of my upper body in a thread and the first response is, "No legs."  Yeah, fantastic.  Over on Ironage I say that Ronnie would destroy Arnold in a real vs at certain points in each's career (i.e. Ronnie at his best vs. Arnold) and Shawn says, that's not a fair statement to make as they are different eras- when that was what the whole thread was about!- comparing the different eras' best bodies!  But, I don't have anything against Shawn or whoever else here or there.  You just have to accept people's shortcomings and then it's not a problem- try it sometime, it's a whole new world...

As far as "there house there rules" go, that's true.  Over here I EXPECT to get flamed for ANYTHING I post or about any possible thing IN my post.  It's a fucking given.  Over there I expect to get yelled at if I say something "negative" especially talking about steroid use in the old days.  It's called reality.  Nothings perfect.  But to freak out about it speaks more about the person not being able to roll with the punches more than anything.  I'm not throwing stones here.  The truth is, we all feel slighted from time to time.  We all get pissed and pissed on and no one likes it.

J.

P.S. And pretty freaking please will somebody, anybody reply with "MELTDOWN!"  It just wouldn't be the same without it.

[LuciusFox]

Jesus Christ!  Let it Fucking Go!  You want the "Balanced" truth?  Ironage is filled with tight assed stuffy old men and Getbig is populated with nerdy pimple faced teenage trolls.  f**k, is anyone really going to argue that?!  Ok, so, we've got the "rebelious" youth VS. the "establishment."  It has been done before..... again and again and again.....  Why is anyone with half a brain really getting upset over all this?  Well, because, again it's the stuffy old men vs. the teenage punks.  And, when you fit well into either category, you just can't help yourself.

I've been reprimanded or attacked on both boards for basically nothing.  Has anyone, I mean, anyone ever not been attatcked unfairly at some point?   On here, I post a pic of my upper body in a thread and the first response is, "No legs."  Yeah, fantastic.  Over on Ironage I say that Ronnie would destroy Arnold in a real vs at certain points in each's career (i.e. Ronnie at his best vs. Arnold) and Shawn says, that's not a fair statement to make as they are different eras- when that was what the whole thread was about!- comparing the different eras' best bodies!  But, I don't have anything against Shawn or whoever else here or there.  You just have to accept people's shortcomings and then it's not a problem- try it sometime, it's a whole new world...

As far as "there house there rules" go, that's true.  Over here I EXPECT to get flamed for ANYTHING I post or about any possible thing IN my post.  It's a fucking given.  Over there I expect to get yelled at if I say something "negative" especially talking about steroid use in the old days.  It's called reality.  Nothings perfect.  But to freak out about it speaks more about the person not being able to roll with the punches more than anything.  I'm not throwing stones here.  The truth is, we all feel slighted from time to time.  We all get pissed and pissed on and no one likes it.

J.

P.S. And pretty freaking please will somebody, anybody reply with "Support Getbig!"  It just wouldn't be the same without it.

          Boiled Over.

[jacshelb]

          Boiled Over.

Close enough.  But, why in my p.s. does it say "support Getbig" instead of "M*E*L*T*D*O*W*N" - which is what I typed?  Weird, oh well.  I'm guessing there is a guard against the word now, which yes, is overused as my original joke was pointing out.

"P.S. And pretty freaking please will somebody, anybody reply with "M*E*L*T*D*O*W*N!"  It just wouldn't be the same without it."

J.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Also, where are these huge and strong guys supposedly at every gym?  When I go, my training partner and I are the only ones to consistently bench 225+ for reps, deadlift 315+ for reps, and do everything else at the same level - a level anyone on here many would consider weak.  Yet it's a rarity to see anyone bench 225 at any gym I've been to.     Maybe I just live in a weak city or something, or maybe people on boards just like to lift with their mouths (not sure which one).

You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!