Shawn Rhoden - Guest Posing 15 weeks out of 2019 Mr Olympia

[SF1900]

No way. Some may not like him but he looked great that night. Who do you think looked better?

Chris Dickerson was worse and there were several there that night that should have beat him.

I never said someone else looked better that night.

What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).

I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.

[Matt]

I never said someone else looked better that night.

What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).

I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.

In recent times.

[Van_Bilderass]

He's entitled to his opinion. Thanks. I will say I agree with him with the exception of his health. Things have changed since the days of Dallas McCarver and the others that passed before him even the younger bodybuilders are much more cautious and with Shawn’s age (44) I don’t see him being that reckless especially with as old school as Aceto is. If he was being coached by Milos, Nichols, etc I’d be more concerned. That’s my opinion

As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.

Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.

Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.

[Matt]

As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.

Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.

Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.

Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.

On here, or... possibly Milos' board.

He seemed like a bitter man though.

Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.

What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.

[kreator]

Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.

On here, or... possibly Milos' board.

He seemed like a bitter man though.

Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.

What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.

Never forget that Milos is a Serb. Serbs are obsessed with money, status and luxurius lifestyle and they will take advantage of people to get what they want. They usually acquire said goods by breaking the law, cheating, lying, extorsion etc. 

[Coach is Back!]

As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.

Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.

Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.

As far as the insulin, I’ve opened myself up over the years and did A LOT of studying as far as insulin usages and agree with you. I haven’t used it myself but as I get older I’ve read about the benefit of its use in anti aging as well as the GH. I think back when I was against it and Milos and I would get into arguments (some in person) it was being overused and depended on too much and I even think with him not realizing too much was having an adverse effect especially when it came to pre contest loading and the blown out stomachs. Dennis Wolf comes to mind with him loading on 5000g of carbs right before a show. But again, I’m open to it and realize not everyone needs it and imo, should only be used for off-season protocols if needed

[Bevo]

Never forget that Milos is a Serb. Serbs are obsessed with money, status and luxurius lifestyle and they will take advantage of people to get what they want. They usually acquire said goods by breaking the law, cheating, lying, extorsion etc. 

Sounds like every other bber

[pellius]

I never said someone else looked better that night.

What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).

I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.

OK, to be precise, you're right.

And I also agree that Phil beat Rhoden everywhere else except midsection. But that was a big one. This was no Ronnie Coleman turtle shell abs, this was just especially egregious. The judges just couldn't let it go another year. And I agree if Phil could fix that he will win again. And it may not be because he's the best. Guys like Roelly, Brandon, Ramy can beat him now. But if he fixes his gut they will reward him.

[Van_Bilderass]

Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.

On here, or... possibly Milos' board.

He seemed like a bitter man though.

Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.

What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.

There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.

All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.

[che]

There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.

All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.

How's your Mr. Olympia training going?

[SF1900]

How's your Mr. Olympia training going?

How’s your Mr Olympia training going?

[che]

How’s your Mr Olympia training going?

Very good


Training

100 push ups a week

Diet

Diet coke and Pizza



Supplements

Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

[Soul Crusher]

  

Very good


Training

100 push ups a week

Diet

Diet coke and Pizza



Supplements

Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

[BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT]

99.9% of getbiggers as well as 99.9% of all gymgoers ON STEROIDS....couldnt look like the off-steroid version of Rhoden on their best day. Shawn Rhoden = smart bodybuilder. Seems like the man is concerned with his health and longetivity. And still is a champion.

[Coach is Back!]

Very good


Training

100 push ups a week

Diet

Diet coke and Pizza



Supplements

Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

Looks like a winner

[AbrahamG]

Looks like a winner

Very conservative protocol. 

@Coach - how are you feeling post contest?  How is your conditioning/weight gain?  It's been about 10 days, right?

[Coach is Back!]

Very conservative protocol. 

@Coach - how are you feeling post contest?  How is your conditioning/weight gain?  It's been about 10 days, right?

I feel good. I got back to training on Monday but during the week off did cardio and kept my diet pretty consistent to avoid a big rebound. I’m only up about 8lbs since the show

[Bevo]

99.9% of getbiggers as well as 99.9% of all gymgoers ON STEROIDS....couldnt look like the off-steroid version of Rhoden on their best day. Shawn Rhoden = smart bodybuilder. Seems like the man is concerned with his health and longetivity. And still is a champion.

Gtfo with this BS, 99.9 getbiggers won’t look better than an off season Shawn

Go4it, the coach, tres tacos, KevinP all look better, I named you four with lots more

[Matt]

There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.

All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.

Great post. Thank you for sharing.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Rhoden is a decent Mr. Olympia. Yes he's smaller than those the last few decades besides Dexter but he comes in condition and is the best on the day. Saying he's the worst, I think he's far better than Jay who had one good showing in 2009 and the rest are average and show how influenced the show is.

Speaking on Milos board arguments go back and read the ones he has on here with gh15. It leaves no doubt gh15 was Nasser at that point.

[honest]

I think Rhoden presented a really good physique last year at the Olympia, Heath may have had more freak value in his wins, but he never had Rhodens overall shape and structure, At his very best I see Phil being very competitive, But Rhoden is structurally better, unless Heath can reverse the gut and keep everything else full last the same time, which is a lot easier said than done, he won't beat Rhoden in last years shape.

[illuminati]

I don’t get the Hate For Rhoden He was a Worthy Winner Last year
No he wasn’t The Biggest on Stage & Neither we’re Zane & Samir
When they Won but they were the Best on stage.
Yes Phil was very good winning in his early wins - Not so the last
Few years & His Midsection was Awful last year & Couldnt Be Ignored
Again - He looked Terrible in all Front Shots.
Shawn Has a Good structure Had enough Muscle mass a Small Waist
And Good conditioning.
If he comes in as Good or even better condition he should Win again.

[Ronnie Rep]

In recent times.

This.

[Coach is Back!]

I don’t get the Hate For Rhoden He was a Worthy Winner Last year
No he wasn’t The Biggest on Stage & Neither we’re Zane & Samir
When they Won but they were the Best on stage.
Yes Phil was very good winning in his early wins - Not so the last
Few years & His Midsection was Awful last year & Couldnt Be Ignored
Again - He looked Terrible in all Front Shots.
Shawn Has a Good structure Had enough Muscle mass a Small Waist
And Good conditioning.
If he comes in as Good or even better condition he should Win again.

Most of the hate it seems came after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro.

[illuminati]

Most of the hate it seems came after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro.

Yes it appears so.
Very clearly He doesn’t get extremely fat / Watery Off season
He gets smaller & softer.
To many used to seeing the very fat / watery off season look
At guest spots.  

It was a good video posted of him speaking - I watched it all.