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What time in American history does MAGA refer to?

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 03:36:57 PM »
What time in American history does MAGA refer to?
If we want to make America great again, when was this great era exactly?
I know Reagan originally used the MAGA slogan so it must be before 1980?
It couldn't be the 1970's because that ended with Carter and had Nixon resign.
The 1960's was a mess overall despite ending with the moon landing.

If we go back to before 1960, we have the Jim Crow segregated south and women treated as 2nd class citizens.

Ok, so when was this era where America was so much greater then it's been for the past 35 years?

To anyone who is being honest, it's a reference to blacks not having full rights.  Women too for that matter.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 03:46:36 PM »
That's what I first assumed, but I didn't want to believe it.
So, I looked for other information that might explain it.

I've come to the belief that you're post is what it's really about.

When he kicks off his campaign by calling Mexicans "rapists", etc. you do not get the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 03:48:11 PM »
id say it refers to a time when these liberal moronic ideas weren't taken so seriously. just look at what their policies have done to some of our great cities. Chicago, san Francisco, nyc, for example. look at what our education system has become. look at what law enforcement has become. look at our lazy youth. come on now, whats lacking in this country is RESPECT.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 03:54:42 PM »
id say it refers to a time when these liberal moronic ideas weren't taken so seriously. just look at what their policies have done to some of our great cities. Chicago, san Francisco, nyc, for example. look at what our education system has become. look at what law enforcement has become. look at our lazy youth. come on now, whats lacking in this country is RESPECT.

Those liberal ideas of 40 hour work weeks, overtime after 40, solid health care, pensions, moms being able to choose to stay home and raise kids, even affording catholic school on a UAW salary for 3 kids, are those the moronic ideas to which you refer?  FDA making our food safe to consume?  EPA giving us the cleanest air quality in a generation?  Being able to see the stars at night again in California?  Fuck all that shit.  Give me coal mines!

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 03:57:22 PM »
When he kicks off his campaign by calling Mexicans "rapists", etc. you do not get the benefit of the doubt.

Link?  What was his exact quote? 

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 04:03:05 PM »
Those liberal ideas of 40 hour work weeks, overtime after 40, solid health care, pensions, moms being able to choose to stay home and raise kids, even affording catholic school on a UAW salary for 3 kids, are those the moronic ideas to which you refer?  FDA making our food safe to consume?  EPA giving us the cleanest air quality in a generation?  Being able to see the stars at night again in California?  Fuck all that shit.  Give me coal mines!

those are all good... id want those too.. im talking open borders, socialism, government run health care, government run schools, late term abortion, all the extreme climate ideas, welfare for anyone, American citizen or not. im not big environment guy but we have to take care of our planet. I think they should ban plastic bottles, go back to glass. wtf, start with simple shit that nobody would have a problem with.

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 04:12:46 PM »
those are all good... id want those too.. im talking open borders, socialism, government run health care, government run schools, late term abortion, all the extreme climate ideas, welfare for anyone, American citizen or not.

Don't necessarily agree with the term "open borders" or that it is a liberal cause.  Government run health care would save trillions a year and cover everybody.  Government run schools should be federally funded and administered.  A 2nd grader in Detroit should get the same level of education as the 2nd grader in Beverly Hills.  3 year olds should universally have the option to go to school.  There are no extreme climate ideas.  Welfare for everyone and late term abortion are both myths.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 04:22:14 PM »
Don't necessarily agree with the term "open borders" or that it is a liberal cause.  Government run health care would save trillions a year and cover everybody.  Government run schools should be federally funded and administered.  A 2nd grader in Detroit should get the same level of education as the 2nd grader in Beverly Hills.  3 year olds should universally have the option to go to school.  There are no extreme climate ideas.  Welfare for everyone and late term abortion are both myths.

govt run healthcare doesn't sound good. look at Canada.people waiting for simple surgeries ect.. I luckily have good private insurance, so im not in that boat. there are plenty of extreme climate ideas. green new deal proposal? go back to glass bottles. thatd be a start. the education system in this country is broken and need fixing. somehow

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2019, 04:30:30 PM »
govt run healthcare doesn't sound good. look at Canada.people waiting for simple surgeries ect.. I luckily have good private insurance, so im not in that boat. there are plenty of extreme climate ideas. green new deal proposal? go back to glass bottles. thatd be a start. the education system in this country is broken and need fixing. somehow


My cousin lives in Toronto.  He tore his biceps a few years ago.  He had it re-attached in less than two weeks.  I think there is a lot of urban legend and/or bullshit as pertains to Canadian health care.  Maybe someone living in Moosestraw Saskatchewan could have issues with waiting times but in the booming metro areas, it seems to be about the same as it is here.  Plus, who says we (USA) cannot do better?  Right?  Can't we take the Canadian model and make it perfect?  We have to take the profit motive out of health care, education, military and prison.  Beyond those 3 items, let capitalism flourish.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 04:39:28 PM »
My cousin lives in Toronto.  He tore his biceps a few years ago.  He had it re-attached in less than two weeks.  I think there is a lot of urban legend and/or bullshit as pertains to Canadian health care.  Maybe someone living in Moosestraw Saskatchewan could have issues with waiting times but in the booming metro areas, it seems to be about the same as it is here.  Plus, who says we (USA) cannot do better?  Right?  Can't we take the Canadian model and make it perfect?  We have to take the profit motive out of health care, education, military and prison.  Beyond those 3 items, let capitalism flourish.

you make some good points.. but taking the profit motive out of those will be a bitch.. way to much money involved there.. but I like your way of thinking that the usa could do things better tho. 

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2019, 04:48:03 PM »
you make some good points.. but taking the profit motive out of those will be a bitch.. way to much money involved there.. but I like your way of thinking that the usa could do things better tho. 

There is no good example of socialism that will work in the U.S.  Canada is a bad example.  Did you know they take half or more of your income in taxes once you get above around $100k?  That's for all the "free" stuff.  Would never work in the U.S.   

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2019, 04:51:59 PM »
Lol, at the first couple posts in this thread. Troll-city hopefully, but guessing just ignorance and their own obsession with skin colors, etc. coming in to play.

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 04:53:13 PM »
you make some good points.. but taking the profit motive out of those will be a bitch.. way to much money involved there.. but I like your way of thinking that the usa could do things better tho. 

We use my wife's insurance.  Which by todays standards is "good".  It still costs over $200 per month out of pocket/payroll deduction.  $30 for office visits and anywhere from $2-$10 for scripts.  But, in order for me to go to the foot doctor to get a corn removed or treated, I first have to go to my family doctor and pay him $30 just to refer me to the foot doctor.  Same goes for the dermatologist, butt-hole doctor, you name it.  It seems to me that for $200 a month, I should be able to buy into medicare and not have the co-pays and referals that I do now.  Because I am sure that out of that $200 a month we pay now and the copays a huge chunk of that goes to CEO's of Blue Cross and Big Pharma.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2019, 04:55:39 PM »
MAGA would be the 1950s methinks.

The Eisenhower years.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2019, 05:09:32 PM »
yep, 1950's

when marginal tax rates were MUCH higher along with higher much higher poverty rates and when it was rare to have both parents working

also not a great time to be non-white

It was also a time when POTUS's didn't publicly hump the American Flag or go on the world stage and shit on our allies and his own intellgence agencies while cozying up to dictators in Russia and North Korea 

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2019, 05:11:54 PM »
yep, 1950's

when marginal tax rates were MUCH higher along with higher much higher poverty rates and when it was rare to have both parents working

also not a great time to be non-white

It was also a time when POTUS's didn't publicly hump the American Flag or go on the world stage and shit on our allies and his own intellgence agencies while cozying up to dictators in Russia and North Korea 

Straw,

Who is your favorite candidate for 2020?

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2019, 05:20:34 PM »
Straw,

Who is your favorite candidate for 2020?

I can't say that I have a favorite yet but If were forced to pick a favorite right now it would be Buttigieg




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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2019, 05:41:08 PM »
To anyone who is being honest, it's a reference to blacks not having full rights.  Women too for that matter.
Yes!! A time when men were men, women were women, and a douchenozzle like you would be mind your manners and treat people with respect!!
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2019, 05:43:14 PM »
Yes!! A time when men were men, women were women, and a douchenozzle like you would be mind your manners and treat people with respect!!

Very articulate.  Gimmick.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2019, 05:45:44 PM »
Very articulate.  Gimmick.
Glad you enjoyed it, AbrahamisGay
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2019, 05:46:36 PM »
Glad you enjoyed it, AbrahamisGay

I fold.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2019, 12:46:29 AM »
Let's just say MAGA is pre-Clinton rollback. That covers 80% of it.

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Re: serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2019, 02:35:23 AM »
I can't say that I have a favorite yet but If were forced to pick a favorite right now it would be Buttigieg




That says it all.

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