How Should Bodybuilding Competitions Be Judged?

[Fallsview]

FROM THE DESK OF FALLSVIEW,


Goodmorrow,


While meeting with some GetBiggers at the OBX Brewing Station we had brought this topic up.

Why not use a tape measure on body parts, arms, chest, legs, calves, forearms, waist. Form some type of formula for points with measurements then look at the body. If the bodybuilders waist is out of proportion with everything else then points are deducted, etc. etc. 
Of course if he has more bi's than tri's also points will be deducted with a visual. It just seems like it makes no sense how these comps are judged. It seems like it up to opinion and who will be more marketable. 
It was just a small conversation that was part of the many other issues we talked about that night back in April.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Earl1972]

aesthetics should count for a lot more than it does, aside from maybe last year

it shouldn't just be overall size and conditioning

E

[robcguns]

By the bulge in the thong and the stupidest dance.

[JustPlaneJane]

FROM THE DESK OF FALLSVIEW,


Goodmorrow,


While meeting with some GetBiggers at the OBX Brewing Station we had brought this topic up.

Why not use a tape measure on body parts, arms, chest, legs, calves, forearms, waist. Form some type of formula for points with measurements then look at the body. If the bodybuilders waist is out of proportion with everything else then points are deducted, etc. etc. 
Of course if he has more bi's than tri's also points will be deducted with a visual. It just seems like it makes no sense how these comps are judged. It seems like it up to opinion and who will be more marketable. 
It was just a small conversation that was part of the many other issues we talked about that night back in April.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ever notice how this moronic gimmick and Howard always appear on the board at exactly the same time?

[oldtimer1]

I liked when in the old AAU Mr. America contest they were given athletic points in addition to the subjective points for judging their physique. They had to post an Olympic lift total and the points were given according to that. I bet in the Olympia today not one in the top ten could lift 315lbs from the ground over head.

[Coach is Back!]

FROM THE DESK OF FALLSVIEW,


Goodmorrow,


While meeting with some GetBiggers at the OBX Brewing Station we had brought this topic up.

Why not use a tape measure on body parts, arms, chest, legs, calves, forearms, waist. Form some type of formula for points with measurements then look at the body. If the bodybuilders waist is out of proportion with everything else then points are deducted, etc. etc. 
Of course if he has more bi's than tri's also points will be deducted with a visual. It just seems like it makes no sense how these comps are judged. It seems like it up to opinion and who will be more marketable. 
It was just a small conversation that was part of the many other issues we talked about that night back in April.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

🤦‍♂️🙄

[flipper5470]

The guy who makes the most schmoes squeal when he hikes his posing trunks up for a glute shot should win.  You have to respect an athlete who can inspire a man to jerk off thinking about him

[Stephano]

Step one:  Illustrate an ideal physique -- with perfectly ideal muscular proportions but without a head, hands, or feet -- in a 3D/CAD modeling program.

Step two:  Have an AI compare the physiques of bodybuilding competitors to that ideal physique.  The top scorer is whoever gets closest.  The further away a competitor is, the fewer points he'll receive.

Step three:  Have the AI give extra points for conditioning and size (including height) -- but these should be lower than the points received earlier, because the ideal physique CAD model already has ideal proportions and shape, so is already "conditioned" to great extent.  And short guys are already at a disadvantage, so it could be argued that giving additional points for height penalizes them further.  Then again, all things being equal, tall bodybuilders are far more impressive than short ones.


Totally objective judging.  The technology for this now exists, thanks to recent advances in computer vision.  (Largely on account of various self-driving car and facial-recognition programs.)

[Bevo]

aesthetics should count for a lot more than it does, aside from maybe last year

it shouldn't just be overall size and conditioning

E

If that’s the case Dorian, Ronnie, and jay shouldn’t have won multiple O’s

[Matt]

In 2005, they sent a memo asking competitors to drop 15% in overall mass.

[IRON CROSS]

Why not use a tape measure on body parts, arms, chest, legs, calves, forearms, waist.

tape measure  U a in prehistory , its scanning time 

[Kwon]

By the bulge in the thong and the stupidest dance.

Why not let a schmoe fondle each contestant, and the one that produced the parsh on the schmoe wins?

Clearly that competitor have the best bod.

[Fallsview]

Goodmorrow,

Seriously though, why not measure these guys and come up with a formula of what is appropriate for that size, waist, chest, etc. etc.?  Instead of saying "Tom Platz's legs overshadowed his physique that's why he didn't do well" like they have back in the early 80's (One example) Why not have concrete evidence on paper and judge everyone accordingly? Look at Markus Ruhl. His biceps were way, way bigger then his tri's but did he get points deducted for it? Can you see that on his score card? No way should biceps be bigger than triceps.

Everything should be in proportion to the body instead of just relying on a judges opinion and visual inspection.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Whoever poses for Steve W longer in his office at Bev's gym should get first. Even if their genetics are as shit as Kevin English's.

Whoever poses second longest should get second.

No really it should be structure, mass, overall condition. Which is generally easy to pick a winner from just harder sometimes at the top. Aside from dirty fags running the sport this is how it's judged but we know winning a bodybuilding competition is just like getting a role in a major movie. How bad do you want it?

I mean fuck Jay posed at every promotors show in 2007 and turned up looking like taking 6th. Then people spend hours trying to defend who won by saying the judges were looking for this or that when it's who blew who.

[ratherbebig]

   
How Should Bodybuilding Competitions Be Judged?

face down, ass up, like always

[TheGrinch]

Same way its always done

BB's pose down oiled up next to the ice machine at the Mirage

sheiks all masturbate to their posedowns

whomever makes the shieks shoot a load first wins



Isn't this how a winner is chosen behind the scenes now anyway?.. I'm confused

[BlackMetallic]

I’ll start competing again when the judges get drug tested

-Mike Mentzer

[Matt]

I’ll start competing again when the judges get drug tested

-Mike Mentzer

In one of Mentzer's videos, he said non-HIT training was only good for genetic freaks on steroids. Because it's not like Mike was...oh wait.

Didn't Mike have a problem with speed?

[Humble Narcissist]

FROM THE DESK OF FALLSVIEW,


Goodmorrow,


While meeting with some GetBiggers at the OBX Brewing Station we had brought this topic up.

Why not use a tape measure on body parts, arms, chest, legs, calves, forearms, waist. Form some type of formula for points with measurements then look at the body. If the bodybuilders waist is out of proportion with everything else then points are deducted, etc. etc. 
Of course if he has more bi's than tri's also points will be deducted with a visual. It just seems like it makes no sense how these comps are judged. It seems like it up to opinion and who will be more marketable. 
It was just a small conversation that was part of the many other issues we talked about that night back in April.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since the Mr.Olympia is named after the Greek Mount Olympus why not use the Greek measurements for perfect body symmetry?

[Tbomzisback!]

short guys are already at a disadvantage, so it could be argued that giving additional points for height penalizes them further.  Then again, all things being equal, tall bodybuilders are far more impressive than short ones.

The question of height is an interesting one. On the one hand, bodybuilding is supposed to be about who has the best physique, and nobody in their right mind is going to want William Bonac's  (5'7") physique over Cedric McMillan's (6'1"), for example (yet Bonac has superor muscle development and conditioning and places higher). But on the flip side, it would be an outrage if some random 6'4" Joe Schmoe NPC competitor placed above Bonac simply because people would rather be a decently built tall guy than have a world class physique but be shorter than average. So there does need to be a line drawn somewhere, perhaps as you proposed, with height being given some points, but a (much) lower amount than aesthetics, musculature, and conditioning.

[funk51]

 

[Humble Narcissist]

Wearing dress shoes while being judged.

[Earl1972]

If that’s the case Dorian, Ronnie, and jay shouldn’t have won multiple O’s

yep

E

[Griffith]

The question of height is an interesting one. On the one hand, bodybuilding is supposed to be about who has the best physique, and nobody in their right mind is going to want William Bonac's  (5'7") physique over Cedric McMillan's (6'1"), for example (yet Bonac has superor muscle development and conditioning and places higher). But on the flip side, it would be an outrage if some random 6'4" Joe Schmoe NPC competitor placed above Bonac simply because people would rather be a decently built tall guy than have a world class physique but be shorter than average. So there does need to be a line drawn somewhere, perhaps as you proposed, with height being given some points, but a (much) lower amount than aesthetics, musculature, and conditioning.

Being given points for height would be ridiculous.

[Tbomzisback!]

Being given points for height would be ridiculous.

Really? Consider two hypothetical bodybuilders, their physiques are exactly identical in every way, except one is 4'9" and the other is 6'5".