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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2019, 06:00:49 PM »
Was on a gram of test weekly for 8 months just dropped to 750mg weekly. My recent bloodwork was perfect everything was in range. This wasn’t luck it’s called knowing how to use gear properly.
That's impressive. Enlighten as to how to use gear properly. Legitimate question as in most cases I have seen even using a more "natural" substance such as test at those doses there are some issues with bloodwork.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2019, 06:42:14 PM »
That's impressive. Enlighten as to how to use gear properly. Legitimate question as in most cases I have seen even using a more "natural" substance such as test at those doses there are some issues with bloodwork.
What portion on my labs would you like to know about? I did a Chemistry panel, estradiol, psa and DHT. DHT was high but my psa was a .1 and I have a full head of hair and I’m not a kid. I have no desire to use propecia as it probably more harmful than Test.
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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2019, 06:52:26 PM »
  I hope you live to be 101. I really do with no health issues.

 I use to talk with Casey Viator through the computer. The conversation if I could remember was about bodybuilding health of steroid users. He told me all blood tests came back perfect telling me about his comprehensive tests. He died about a  year after that of a heart attack. More to health than blood results. Almost half of all clog type heart attacks happen to people with good cholesterol readings. What's your resting heart rate? How strong is your heart based on a Vo2 test? How fast does you heart rate return to normal after exertion? How's your blood pressure? How's your EKG under exertion? How's the blood viscosity?

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2019, 05:09:10 AM »
Genetic heart abnormalities don't show up on blood tests.


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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2019, 09:29:46 AM »
What portion on my labs would you like to know about? I did a Chemistry panel, estradiol, psa and DHT. DHT was high but my psa was a .1 and I have a full head of hair and I’m not a kid. I have no desire to use propecia as it probably more harmful than Test.
Not really blood work. From your posts it seems like you know what would be warning signs on those. Moreso what are you doing differently then others when you are referring to knowing what you are doing to keep those numbers at a healthy range. DHT and estrogen can both be elevated in my opinion when taking test and don't see anything wrong with that provided they aren't crazy.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2019, 09:33:04 AM »
Genetic heart abnormalities don't show up on blood tests.



 Not that it can't happen, but I personally have no predisposition to heart disease or cancers. Both grandmothers lived into their late 90's. One grandmother stated smoking in her late teens then when she was finally admitted into a rest home at 93 there were no signs of a black lung or any indication she even smoked. The second grandmother died a week before her 100th birthday.

My father died at 54, he was a workaholic, drank a six pack a night, ate twice a day and smoked since he was 14. Even though he was only 145lbs (most of his life) he went into a coma in the middle of the night due to sleep apnea. My biological grandfather on my dad's side was a retired cop that smoked and drank and died at 68. No one workout or anything that would be deemed as healthy. Can't exactly remember what my grandfather dies of but it wasn't heart or cancer-related. My grandfather on my mom's side died of diabetes with both legs removed because of it. He was a train conductor for then, Santa Fe railways.

But, I will say to the younger generation that wants to bodybuild on a serious level, check family history and see what you might be predisposed too.

Side note, I had a CT scan (heart) about 4-5months ago so this just isn't the blood test

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »
Sounds good, Coach.

From what you said you have a 50/50 chance of living to 100.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2019, 10:06:48 AM »
When people make comments about gear use most make the comments off the cuff without thinking. They don't take into consideration that, when it comes to competitive bodybuilding, that it's usually the last week or two before the show is the hardest through cutting carbs then into the depletion phase (if needed) and usually not during the initial prep and leading up to the two-week countdown.

They're not taking into consideration that diets are clean, training every day, cardio every day, dropping weight and fat are all contributions to a healthy lifestyle and that even though gear is used (depending on how much and what compounds) that person, if prepped right, is infinitely in better health than the average person on here or just about anywhere, therefore, blood panels will more than likely come back better than average, of course, genetics ALWAYS comes into play.

I can tell you when you go to the "what did you eat today" thread, most in that are (by definition) malnutrition also, looking at and remembering some of the posts on here from the past, most drink, smoke both cigarettes and/or weed, vape, eat like shit (most of the time) do some kind street drug besides weed, overweight, etc So when I hear people bagging on steroid users I have to laugh because it's more than likely they're doing shit waaaaaaaaaay worse than a steroid user that CYCLES ON AND OFF.

You're also lumping all steroids into the same category not thinking that some are more or less toxic than the other couple that with the use GH and maybe insulin, you cut (or should)  down on the steroid use, no, GH isn't a steroid.

 

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2019, 10:15:10 AM »
Sounds good, Coach.

From what you said you have a 50/50 chance of living to 100.

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50% old age 50% lifestyle choice

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2019, 10:32:48 AM »
Not really blood work. From your posts it seems like you know what would be warning signs on those. Moreso what are you doing differently then others when you are referring to knowing what you are doing to keep those numbers at a healthy range. DHT and estrogen can both be elevated in my opinion when taking test and don't see anything wrong with that provided they aren't crazy.
Super clean diet:whole eggs, fish, lean ground turkey and natural peanut butter. No garbage. No red meat. I control estrogen with 1mg of adex weekly, I use 1200mg of red yeast rice daily to control cholesterol. I use a high potency milk thistle product for liver health, as well as 4g of fish oil daily. I donate blood every 58 days. No alcohol. At 6’ and 202lbs this AM and all my bloodwork in range I’m obviously doing things right. Also use a variety of other vitamins all from Life Extension.
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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2019, 03:25:13 PM »
Super clean diet:whole eggs, fish, lean ground turkey and natural peanut butter. No garbage. No red meat. I control estrogen with 1mg of adex weekly, I use 1200mg of red yeast rice daily to control cholesterol. I use a high potency milk thistle product for liver health, as well as 4g of fish oil daily. I donate blood every 58 days. No alcohol. At 6’ and 202lbs this AM and all my bloodwork in range I’m obviously doing things right. Also use a variety of other vitamins all from Life Extension.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2019, 04:39:11 PM »
If you want better blood work, up the berry intake.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2019, 01:29:59 AM »
No clue. I haven’t measured a body part in probably 20 years 🤷‍♂️

Coach, may I ask why? Wouldn't it help to know whether you're progressing in size to have a basepoint on which to measure?

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2019, 01:20:04 PM »
Coach, may I ask why? Wouldn't it help to know whether you're progressing in size to have a basepoint on which to measure?

Just never felt the need too. Every once in a while I’ll get curious then I just forget about it

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2019, 02:38:17 PM »
No geared up bodybuilder should be taken seriously when he says all his lab values are normal. It’s all BS.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2019, 03:03:56 PM »
No geared up bodybuilder should be taken seriously when he says all his lab values are normal. It’s all BS.

I’m sorry, who are you again and why should we care? lol

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2019, 03:56:19 AM »
I’m sorry, who are you again and why should we care? lol

I’m Bbsschlemiel. See my name here. I can’t think of a reason you should care.

Re: generally better health at end of prep

Getting to 4-6% bodyfat to be shredded to the bone onstage requires low-level starvation.

If you or anyone posts lab values including GFR, BUN, Cre, hct, hgb, estradiol, lipid values, liver function related lab values, I will simply be proven wrong. And I’m fine with being proven wrong.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2019, 08:47:57 AM »
I’m Bbsschlemiel. See my name here. I can’t think of a reason you should care.

Re: generally better health at end of prep

Getting to 4-6% bodyfat to be shredded to the bone onstage requires low-level starvation.

If you or anyone posts lab values including GFR, BUN, Cre, hct, hgb, estradiol, lipid values, liver function related lab values, I will simply be proven wrong. And I’m fine with being proven wrong.

Find the quote where I said at the END of prep. The END of prep involves usually the last week or two unless the competitor is WELL behind in his/her prep

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2019, 07:07:57 PM »
When people make comments about gear use most make the comments off the cuff without thinking. They don't take into consideration that, when it comes to competitive bodybuilding, that it's usually the last week or two before the show is the hardest through cutting carbs then into the depletion phase (if needed) and usually not during the initial prep and leading up to the two-week countdown.

They're not taking into consideration that diets are clean, training every day, cardio every day, dropping weight and fat are all contributions to a healthy lifestyle and that even though gear is used (depending on how much and what compounds) that person, if prepped right, is infinitely in better health than the average person on here or just about anywhere, therefore, blood panels will more than likely come back better than average, of course, genetics ALWAYS comes into play.

I can tell you when you go to the "what did you eat today" thread, most in that are (by definition) malnutrition also, looking at and remembering some of the posts on here from the past, most drink, smoke both cigarettes and/or weed, vape, eat like shit (most of the time) do some kind street drug besides weed, overweight, etc So when I hear people bagging on steroid users I have to laugh because it's more than likely they're doing shit waaaaaaaaaay worse than a steroid user that CYCLES ON AND OFF.

You're also lumping all steroids into the same category not thinking that some are more or less toxic than the other couple that with the use GH and maybe insulin, you cut (or should)  down on the steroid use, no, GH isn't a steroid.

 

how would you know what "most people" on here do

BTW - from your posts we know you spent the past few years being overweight and you've posted about drinking too.   Not sure how much of the time you eat like shit but I suspect that you didn't get so fat that you were scared of dying in your sleep from eating fish, veggies and rice.


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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2019, 07:49:40 PM »
how would you know what "most people" on here do

BTW - from your posts we know you spent the past few years being overweight and you've posted about drinking too.   Not sure how much of the time you eat like shit but I suspect that you didn't get so fat that you were scared of dying in your sleep from eating fish, veggies and rice.



I read and remember certain posts especially when they say what their habits and addictions are. Have you started working out yet or still just pretending. My being fat was still at 16% even when I didn’t train as much. You still have much to learn.

Define drinking...lol.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2019, 08:06:04 PM »
What was ur stack?

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2019, 09:55:07 AM »
I read and remember certain posts especially when they say what their habits and addictions are. Have you started working out yet or still just pretending. My being fat was still at 16% even when I didn’t train as much. You still have much to learn.

Define drinking...lol.

unlike you I've never stopped working out or eating healthy in the last 30 years

That's why, again unlike you, I have no fear of dying in my sleep

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2019, 09:58:51 AM »
unlike you I've never stopped working out or eating healthy in the last 30 years

That's why, again unlike you, I have no fear of dying in my sleep

We'll never know but you do admit to smoking weed on a daily basis, in that case, I'll take my chances.

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2019, 11:23:47 AM »
We'll never know but you do admit to smoking weed on a daily basis, in that case, I'll take my chances.

Absolutely false but then you're a Trumptard and a moron so It's not unusual that you're also a liar

feel free bump any post where you think I said that or just go ahead and admit you're a liar

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Re: Post contest blood test
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2019, 11:31:00 AM »
Lies and delusion are part of the bodybuilding experience for many.