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Re: Border Security
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2019, 03:57:08 PM »
Actually you didn't answer.  Here they are again

1.  Which Asians?  Japanese?  Filipinos? Vietnamese?  You posted unsourced IQs of people in China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan.  Who compiled this information and who were the subjects?  And what about Vietnam, the    
Philippines, Malaysia, Cambodia, and all other Asian countries?  

2.  Which whites?  Every class, rich and poor alike?  Pure blood?  

3.  Which blacks?  From the Caribbean?  Mixed race?  All income and education levels?  

Let Me 1st Say I Like you Dos you generally speak sense.

Ha ha ha
When I can be bothered as you’re oh so butt hurt I’ll re find the link for you.
And No I didn’t post every country on the list  ::)

I thought you could read better - Hong Konk / South Korea / Singapore are right there on the list.  ::)
Also Nigeria/ Sudan / Somali / Uganda are on the list oh & Jamaica - Look 👀 are they not Black Countries?

And No I don’t know their ages / If They males or Females or a Gender Neutral Day
Or their shoe sizes / how many teeth they have or Names & Addresses For you to go check
Every single individual to see if they Fit Your Criteria.

There’s plenty of studies out there on IQ for you to go question & make sure they fit exactly your
Parameters - I Do Hope you’re as Keen & Demanding when it comes to any other information
Or Statistics you Post. Are You. ?
As I’ve seen plenty of your quotes & posts.
Please ensure they Fit your above quoted specifications to Me
As that would be Very Hypocritical of you if you can’t answer
Them when I Ask You.
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Re: Border Security
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2019, 04:36:14 PM »
Okay.  So now you are admitting to being a racist, old, white male.  If you truly believe that Trump is a racist, then wouldn't that make him your equal?  So what's your problem with him then?

Okay. So now you are adding words to your original post to which I was responding. Note the bolded section:
I'm not white, and I am originally from one of those countries.  I still don't see how this is racist.  It's simply, and sadly, the truth.  You and your kind (Old, wealthy, liberal, self-hating, white males) go through mental acrobatics to label "racist" anything and everything Trump says or does.

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2019, 05:39:03 PM »
Let Me 1st Say I Like you Dos you generally speak sense.

Ha ha ha
When I can be bothered as you’re oh so butt hurt I’ll re find the link for you.
And No I didn’t post every country on the list  ::)

I thought you could read better - Hong Konk / South Korea / Singapore are right there on the list.  ::)
Also Nigeria/ Sudan / Somali / Uganda are on the list oh & Jamaica - Look 👀 are they not Black Countries?

And No I don’t know their ages / If They males or Females or a Gender Neutral Day
Or their shoe sizes / how many teeth they have or Names & Addresses For you to go check
Every single individual to see if they Fit Your Criteria.

There’s plenty of studies out there on IQ for you to go question & make sure they fit exactly your
Parameters - I Do Hope you’re as Keen & Demanding when it comes to any other information
Or Statistics you Post. Are You. ?
As I’ve seen plenty of your quotes & posts.
Please ensure they Fit your above quoted specifications to Me
As that would be Very Hypocritical of you if you can’t answer
Them when I Ask You.
 ;D

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Like I indicated, I know you cannot answer the questions I asked.  But my questions should at least get you to think.  

I've been all over the country and around the world interacting with people of all different backgrounds.  I've spent a lot of time doing volunteer work with elementary schools kids in poor neighborhoods.  What I have experienced is exactly what Princess said earlier:   there are some very smart and very dumb people from all ethnic backgrounds.  And the biggest predictors are their upbringing and socioeconomic status, not their ethnic background.  

Your IQ stats are meaningless.  They don't allow you to meet a random Japanese person and assume they are smart or meet an random Somali and assume they are dumb.  Intelligence varies widely among members of all races.  

IQ tests don't tell you how intelligent a person is or is not.  Intelligence is far more than answering some questions on a test.  It includes analytical ability, common sense, emotional control/intelligence, etc.

And the thing that really blows up race-based tests or statistics of any kind is the fact being have been intermarrying for a long time.  

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2019, 08:27:30 PM »
Like I indicated, I know you cannot answer the questions I asked.  But my questions should at least get you to think.  

I've been all over the country and around the world interacting with people of all different backgrounds.  I've spent a lot of time doing volunteer work with elementary schools kids in poor neighborhoods.  What I have experienced is exactly what Princess said earlier:   there are some very smart and very dumb people from all ethnic backgrounds.  And the biggest predictors are their upbringing and socioeconomic status, not their ethnic background.  

Your IQ stats are meaningless.  They don't allow you to meet a random Japanese person and assume they are smart or meet an random Somali and assume they are dumb.  Intelligence varies widely among members of all races.  

IQ tests don't tell you how intelligent a person is or is not.  Intelligence is far more than answering some questions on a test.  It includes analytical ability, common sense, emotional control/intelligence, etc.

And the thing that really blows up race-based tests or statistics of any kind is the fact being have been intermarrying for a long time.  

You’re being Very Stupid  - Clearly I answered your questions I even pointed
Out what You couldn't Read with the Countries on the List.  ::)

Hold on a minute Here Pal - And what makes You Think You’ve travelled more than Me ?
Or Know what I’ve done in my life You have No idea - And you’re pompous ignorant attitude shines through
You’re very Mistaken, You shouldn’t Be So self assured & condescending Especially when you know Fcuk
All about My Life.

No Doubt £ / background / education have a big impact & so does Intelligence/ aptitude.

Yes sure thing - The Black Africans / Aboriginals / Are as advanced as the whites & Chinese
All they managed to invent was a stick !!

Carry on with you’re self delusional attitude - Jeez No Wonder you were a Killary Supporter & Had To
Eat Crap & Admit you were wrong. Now you Sing his Praises.

You’re experience tells you one thing & Mine & Many others Tells Me Different.

Be very Careful what you post / quote as you’re own criteria will be applied
As to age group / sex / wealth / education/ Background & I expect You to
Be able to Answer or it’s worthless you posting it.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander - You set the standards.
Carry on.

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2019, 10:43:20 PM »
You’re being Very Stupid  - Clearly I answered your questions I even pointed
Out what You couldn't Read with the Countries on the List.  ::)

Hold on a minute Here Pal - And what makes You Think You’ve travelled more than Me ?
Or Know what I’ve done in my life You have No idea - And you’re pompous ignorant attitude shines through
You’re very Mistaken, You shouldn’t Be So self assured & condescending Especially when you know Fcuk
All about My Life.

No Doubt £ / background / education have a big impact & so does Intelligence/ aptitude.

Yes sure thing - The Black Africans / Aboriginals / Are as advanced as the whites & Chinese
All they managed to invent was a stick !!

Carry on with you’re self delusional - Jeez No Wonder you were a Killary Supporter & Had To
Eat Crap & Admit you were wrong. Now you Sing his Praises.

You’re experience tells you one thing & Mine & Many others Tells Me Different.

Be very Careful what you post / quote as you’re own criteria will be applied
As to age group / sex / wealth / education/ Background & I expect You to
Be able to Answer or it’s worthless you posting it.

What good for the goose is good for the gander - You set the standards.
Carry on.

I give you an A+ on this excellent response.

Doesn't it just crack you up how some people act like they know more about we virtual strangers then we know about ourselves...what an arrogant bunch of sons of bitches!

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2019, 12:19:44 AM »
I give you an A+ on this excellent response.

Doesn't it just crack you up how some people act like they know more about we virtual strangers then we know about ourselves...what an arrogant bunch of sons of bitches!


That Coming from your good self -
Thank you.

Clearly Dos doesn’t agree with IQ tests
And that’s his choice.
Thinking he knows Me & where I’ve been what I’ve seen & Worked
He’s Totally Wrong.


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Re: Border Security
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2019, 09:20:23 AM »
You’re being Very Stupid  - Clearly I answered your questions I even pointed
Out what You couldn't Read with the Countries on the List.  ::)

Hold on a minute Here Pal - And what makes You Think You’ve travelled more than Me ?
Or Know what I’ve done in my life You have No idea - And you’re pompous ignorant attitude shines through
You’re very Mistaken, You shouldn’t Be So self assured & condescending Especially when you know Fcuk
All about My Life.

No Doubt £ / background / education have a big impact & so does Intelligence/ aptitude.

Yes sure thing - The Black Africans / Aboriginals / Are as advanced as the whites & Chinese
All they managed to invent was a stick !!

Carry on with you’re self delusional attitude - Jeez No Wonder you were a Killary Supporter & Had To
Eat Crap & Admit you were wrong. Now you Sing his Praises.

You’re experience tells you one thing & Mine & Many others Tells Me Different.

Be very Careful what you post / quote as you’re own criteria will be applied
As to age group / sex / wealth / education/ Background & I expect You to
Be able to Answer or it’s worthless you posting it.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander - You set the standards.
Carry on.

I never compared my life experience with yours.  I simply talked about my own experience with people, which is pretty extensive.  I have no idea, nor do I care, what your life experience is.  But at least you did address one of the points I made:  "No Doubt £ / background / education have a big impact & so does Intelligence/ aptitude."  Good.  That is progress.   :)

I didn't say anything about one country being more advanced than any other.  We are talking about ethnic-based IQ.  Like I said, they are meaningless statistics.  They do not account for any the things I previously mentioned. 

Also, what is the purpose?  Are you going to make public policy based on IQ tests given to random people?  Are you going to form opinions about entire ethnic groups and treat them differently? 

One of the questions I posed that you cannot answer is race mixing.  For example, what is Obama's race?  Is he black or white?  And if he takes an IQ test, what category do we place him under? 

I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.  I voted for the space cadet Gary Johnson.  And there is nothing wrong with admitting a mistake.  I do it whenever I'm wrong.  Just like an emotionally intelligent person would admit when they were wrong about making broad assumptions about ethnic-based IQ tests.   :) 

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2019, 11:08:39 AM »
I never compared my life experience with yours.  I simply talked about my own experience with people, which is pretty extensive.  I have no idea, nor do I care, what your life experience is.  But at least you did address one of the points I made:  "No Doubt £ / background / education have a big impact & so does Intelligence/ aptitude."  Good.  That is progress.   :)

I didn't say anything about one country being more advanced than any other.  We are talking about ethnic-based IQ.  Like I said, they are meaningless statistics.  They do not account for any the things I previously mentioned. 

Also, what is the purpose?  Are you going to make public policy based on IQ tests given to random people?  Are you going to form opinions about entire ethnic groups and treat them differently? 

One of the questions I posed that you cannot answer is race mixing.  For example, what is Obama's race?  Is he black or white?  And if he takes an IQ test, what category do we place him under? 

I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.  I voted for the space cadet Gary Johnson.  And there is nothing wrong with admitting a mistake.  I do it whenever I'm wrong.  Just like an emotionally intelligent person would admit when they were wrong about making broad assumptions about ethnic-based IQ tests.   :) 

Carry on as I said - You’re own standards will be used on all you’re future quotes & articles you post
So I do hope they meet you’re own standards & you can Answer your own questions when posed to you.

No you didn’t directly compare you’re life experiences with mine - Though I The context of the exchange
Of Messages it came across as Condescending & pompous to Me.

As for Obuma does he not class himself as black - Many Many did & do - Personally I’d say he’s
A half Cast though more black than white. His genetic make would indicate what he is & place him in that group.

Oh and how do they often form public policy ? Often by either observing and or questioning random people
And sometimes it works well & sometimes not so well.
They don’t believe they often go into the nitty gritty of age / race / sex / wealth / ethnicity/ education etc., it’s done on a broad basis - so that’s also wrong in your opinion is it.

So good to hear you didn’t vote for Killary.

We all make broad generalisation at times rightly or wrongly
Very clearly we are not going to agree or change each other’s minds / opinions.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

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Re: Border Security
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2019, 12:04:07 PM »
Carry on as I said - You’re own standards will be used on all you’re future quotes & articles you post
So I do hope they meet you’re own standards & you can Answer your own questions when posed to you.

No you didn’t directly compare you’re life experiences with mine - Though I The context of the exchange
Of Messages it came across as Condescending & pompous to Me.

As for Obuma does he not class himself as black - Many Many did & do - Personally I’d say he’s
A half Cast though more black than white. His genetic make would indicate what he is & place him in that group.

Oh and how do they often form public policy ? Often by either observing and or questioning random people
And sometimes it works well & sometimes not so well.
They don’t believe they often go into the nitty gritty of age / race / sex / wealth / ethnicity/ education etc., it’s done on a broad basis - so that’s also wrong in your opinion is it.

So good to hear you didn’t vote for Killary.

We all make broad generalisation at times rightly or wrongly
Very clearly we are not going to agree or change each other’s minds / opinions.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree.


What standards are you talking about?  All I did was ask questions that show how inherently unreliable race-based statistics can be, particularly as they relate to IQ.  

I always say it's hard to read tone in writing.  If you ever talked to me in person you'd know I'm neither pompous nor condescending.  I'm actually one of the humblest persons you will meet.  But I do know that very often when people have long-held beliefs challenged that they take it personally, regardless of the other person's tone.  None of this is personal for me.  I try not to insult anyone on the board.  Except for the Village Idiot.  She earned it.   ;D

Can you see how problematic it is to talk about mixed race people in this context?  So Obama is black because he self-identifies as black??  How is that different from a transgendered man self-identifying as a woman?  

And how does Obama's genetic makeup make him more black than white?  Do you know who his parents were?



I know someone who is half black and half Palauan.  He married a half Palestinian, half white woman and had kids.  How do we label those kids when it comes to race-based statistics?  (Rhetorical question)

We definitely have an entire political party that tries to make race-based policy, but it's wrong.  And unreliable.  

Yes we all make generalizations.  We all have what I think is an innate need to label everyone we meet (e.g., man, woman, race, smart, dumb, rich, poor, etc.).  For example, it confuses people when they look at someone and cannot immediately identify what that person's ethnic background is.  

But one of the questions is, what do you (or anyone else) do with these statistics?  What exactly is the purpose?