Author Topic: Shawn Rhoden - Legal Details from the Case - Shawn's Statement  (Read 138951 times)

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #650 on: July 18, 2019, 07:49:30 PM »
It does matter.  Laurie isn’t an honest person. The text messages might show she’s not telling the truth. At comes down to her word against his.


Unless the accuser specifically states (in texts or messages) that she will do a specific act or acts, I don't believe they will help Shawn's defense.  Even if she tested exactly that, she still can say no at any moment.......which is what she's claiming.  So, you're right that it will be his word against hers.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - IFBB Pro League Statement - 07-14-19
« Reply #651 on: July 18, 2019, 07:53:48 PM »
DEARTH, Good guy ornot. I think that Manion is handling this situation properly.

My big question is, "Why is Manion's and Pecker's 'decision' so different?"


In the line of work he's in, Manion has probably been handling peckers properly for years.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #652 on: July 18, 2019, 11:48:36 PM »
This is quite possibly a "honey-trap" scenario, whereby, the real motive is not to get a criminal conviction in itself, but rather to obtain civil damages for rape, from a target who clearly has some money (due to his recent Olympia win and related income). The sad consequence of which being that his career and reputation are left severely tarnished. Meanwhile, the "victim" could get a financial payout, and further sell her story to the media for a 6 figure sum to the national enquirer or 60 minutes - "How a vulnerable fitness model was raped by My Olympia". You can imagine the sound-bites "He completely overwhelmed me with his power ... I was totally helpless, sob sob" (dabbing tears with tissue).  It is well known that the accuser has shown a prior interest getting media attention.

The most suspicious apsects of this matter are as follows:

1 - She came into his room (and not the other way around).

2 - Whilst (she claims) he sucked and licked her breasts, there were no "bight-marks". Many rapists would actually bight their breasts or nipples.

3 - There were no bruises. If he had raped her, she would have bruised her arms or legs etc as he held her down and she struggled to get away.

4 - Related to 3 above, not a single scratch on him. Often a rapist would have some scratch marks from the victim.

5 - Her previous history of scams and fraud (conspiring with her husband and others to do so), demonstrating her being of poor character.

6 - The part about him putting in only the tip of his penis into her pussy is the most suspicious "fact" of all. What man could control himself well enough to insert only just his tip into a fitness model's pussy, (as opposed to the over-riding natural instinct to ram it in all the way).  Let alone a man pumped totally full of exogenous testosterone and androgenic compounds to the extent required of an IFBB level competitor. And let alone an actual rapist. Except perhaps in cases of child rape, it is unheard of a rapist to rape with "just the tip of his penis". That would have to be one of the most "gentle" rapes of all time. If you simply visualize the scenario of him raping her with the tip of his penis you will realize the ludicrousness of the claim that this is what occurred, and I think any red-blooded man, and indeed any women of any sexual experience with men will agree with this.

Sordid as it may sound, these exact details, including how long the tip of Shawn's penis was in her, and the circumstances of how it came to be in there etc, why there was not even any trace of any pre-cum or semen / sperms found in her pussy (or any other orifice such as her anus or mouth, or indeed any article of clothing (panties, towel, bed sheets etc) need to be explored. I am sure these issues will be vigorously cross-examined, in the event this case does go to trial.

Remember, in a criminal trial, he is presumed innocent, unless it can be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that his is guilty. I maintain he will not be convicted. They will try to pressure him into making a guilty plea in return for a reduce sentence, and so he now had the difficult decision of accepting, and forever being known as a rapist, or defending his honor and reputation as a matter of principle, with an expensive legal trial (but with a very good chance of winning).

And then, even if he wins (or worse if he loses) the criminal trial, she can then commence a civil trial in any case (with a much lower burden of proof), and still obtain an award of damages, or a financial settlement, in any such trial. You can guarantee they will be seeking 1m USD+ although they might eventually settle in the $400-$500K range. Such is the dilemma facing Shawn now. Desiree Washington is rumered to have settled for more than 4m USD after Mike Tyson allegedly raped (and also allegedly sodomized her), and that was back in the 1990s, when 1 million was a lot of money), and a highly politicized case.


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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #653 on: July 19, 2019, 02:31:03 AM »
FYI,  you fucktard - “Rejection” has zero to do with rape or being falsely accused of rape. 

Where did you get that from? I didn't see him somehow linking women being spurned through rejection and rape allegations.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #654 on: July 19, 2019, 05:16:54 AM »
no 1 page posts please. this is 2019. were used to instagram, twitter and smart phones. if you cant get your point across in a few sentences then you need to fuck off.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #655 on: July 19, 2019, 05:20:28 AM »
no 1 page posts please. this is 2019. were used to instagram, twitter and smart phones. if you cant get your point across in a few sentences then you need to fuck off.

You heard him boys - no critical analysis or proper theorizing on such a serious thread. Just a sentence or two will do the trick!

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #656 on: July 19, 2019, 05:39:26 AM »
280 characters or less.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #657 on: July 19, 2019, 06:05:48 AM »
This is quite possibly a "honey-trap" scenario, whereby, the real motive is not to get a criminal conviction in itself, but rather to obtain civil damages for rape, from a target who clearly has some money (due to his recent Olympia win and related income). The sad consequence of which being that his career and reputation are left severely tarnished. Meanwhile, the "victim" could get a financial payout, and further sell her story to the media for a 6 figure sum to the national enquirer or 60 minutes - "How a vulnerable fitness model was raped by My Olympia". You can imagine the sound-bites "He completely overwhelmed me with his power ... I was totally helpless, sob sob" (dabbing tears with tissue).  It is well known that the accuser has shown a prior interest getting media attention.

The most suspicious apsects of this matter are as follows:

1 - She came into his room (and not the other way around).

2 - Whilst (she claims) he sucked and licked her breasts, there were no "bight-marks". Many rapists would actually bight their breasts or nipples.

3 - There were no bruises. If he had raped her, she would have bruised her arms or legs etc as he held her down and she struggled to get away.

4 - Related to 3 above, not a single scratch on him. Often a rapist would have some scratch marks from the victim.

5 - Her previous history of scams and fraud (conspiring with her husband and others to do so), demonstrating her being of poor character.

6 - The part about him putting in only the tip of his penis into her pussy is the most suspicious "fact" of all. What man could control himself well enough to insert only just his tip into a fitness model's pussy, (as opposed to the over-riding natural instinct to ram it in all the way).  Let alone a man pumped totally full of exogenous testosterone and androgenic compounds to the extent required of an IFBB level competitor. And let alone an actual rapist. Except perhaps in cases of child rape, it is unheard of a rapist to rape with "just the tip of his penis". That would have to be one of the most "gentle" rapes of all time. If you simply visualize the scenario of him raping her with the tip of his penis you will realize the ludicrousness of the claim that this is what occurred, and I think any red-blooded man, and indeed any women of any sexual experience with men will agree with this.

Sordid as it may sound, these exact details, including how long the tip of Shawn's penis was in her, and the circumstances of how it came to be in there etc, why there was not even any trace of any pre-cum or semen / sperms found in her pussy (or any other orifice such as her anus or mouth, or indeed any article of clothing (panties, towel, bed sheets etc) need to be explored. I am sure these issues will be vigorously cross-examined, in the event this case does go to trial.

Remember, in a criminal trial, he is presumed innocent, unless it can be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that his is guilty. I maintain he will not be convicted. They will try to pressure him into making a guilty plea in return for a reduce sentence, and so he now had the difficult decision of accepting, and forever being known as a rapist, or defending his honor and reputation as a matter of principle, with an expensive legal trial (but with a very good chance of winning).

And then, even if he wins (or worse if he loses) the criminal trial, she can then commence a civil trial in any case (with a much lower burden of proof), and still obtain an award of damages, or a financial settlement, in any such trial. You can guarantee they will be seeking 1m USD+ although they might eventually settle in the $400-$500K range. Such is the dilemma facing Shawn now. Desiree Washington is rumered to have settled for more than 4m USD after Mike Tyson allegedly raped (and also allegedly sodomized her), and that was back in the 1990s, when 1 million was a lot of money), and a highly politicized case.



I cannot believe you are implying the woman is a liar. That's preposterous!! Everybody knows women are the embodyment of truth and correctness! How dare you sir!

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #658 on: July 19, 2019, 06:17:55 AM »
280 characters or less.

Basically they're debating if Shawn's penis tip went in or the whole thing and how much it's going to cost him. You're welcome

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« Reply #659 on: July 19, 2019, 11:41:44 AM »
From reading the charges it seems there are things missing from the statement made by LKH. She obviously does resistance training in gyms. So where are comments about her resisting what happened? If she didn't like what was happening she could have done more. She didn't hit him, scratch him, put her hands over her vagina, scream or do much to stop what was happening. Something isn't right here. I wouldn't say sexual intercourse occurred in that room. Fingers were the object in the second charge.
A huge, strong guy is supposed to be raping a woman then stops because she has to tell the photographer in the lobby in case he thinks something is up? I don't buy this story.  


Are you fucken serious? You fucking neanderthal.

RAPE IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE and as a society we have no right to comment on the victims actions, inactions, delays in reporting or any such thing.



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Re: Shawn Rhoden - IFBB Pro League Statement - 07-14-19
« Reply #660 on: July 19, 2019, 03:47:12 PM »
DEARTH, I think I figured it all out.

Manion is only speaking on behalf of the NPC as the pres of the NPC.

While Pecker is speaking on behalf of the IFBB Olympia event ... in which he apparently has the controlling interest.

Does anyone know the interest shares within the IFBB organization ... including the Oly bodybuilding event and the Oly Expo?

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Charged with Rape - 2019-07-12
« Reply #661 on: July 19, 2019, 05:54:32 PM »
How’s his Olympia prep going?
ramen and man holes.
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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #662 on: July 19, 2019, 11:03:58 PM »
Are you fucken serious? You fucking neanderthal.

RAPE IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE and as a society we have no right to comment on the victims actions, inactions, delays in reporting or any such thing.



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Seems to me lots of people are doing just that. If this business ever goes to court then some people will decide guilt or not. In the end it is always a matter of opinion.

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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #663 on: July 20, 2019, 01:14:03 AM »
Are you fucken serious? You fucking neanderthal.

RAPE IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE and as a society we have no right to comment on the victims actions, inactions, delays in reporting or any such thing.

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To some extent I agree with you - it is an awful act violence & abuse.
Though as she is Anonymous & he is not & already suffering & Being
Penalised as a Yet Innocent Man - Yes we do have a right to Comment,
By reading the posted accounts of what she’s supposedly saying
What went on it doesn’t read right to many including myself kinda to many
Glaring holes & inconsistency’s that very clearly will be challenged in a
Court of Law.

And what about the abuse & suffering of those Men accused and Proven
Innocent - Where’s the outrage & disgust about That ??

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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #664 on: July 20, 2019, 02:33:08 AM »
To some extent I agree with you - it is an awful act violence & abuse.
Though as she is Anonymous & he is not & already suffering & Being
Penalised as a Yet Innocent Man - Yes we do have a right to Comment,
By reading the posted accounts of what she’s supposedly saying
What went on it doesn’t read right to many including myself kinda to many
Glaring holes & inconsistency’s that very clearly will be challenged in a
Court of Law.

And what about the abuse & suffering of those Men accused and Proven
Innocent - Where’s the outrage & disgust about That ??
You are absolutely correct. We can all have an opinion on this. And it seems her and her husband have removed their social media pages because her credibility is very low due to her wire fraud charges in 2010.

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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #665 on: July 20, 2019, 05:43:06 AM »
You are absolutely correct. We can all have an opinion on this. And it seems her and her husband have removed their social media pages because her credibility is very low due to her wire fraud charges in 2010.
she Maybe removed it because of catty bitches like you . If he was a White Bodybuilder what would your opinion be? seems you like black men  ::) if he did it i hope he goes down.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Charged with Rape - 2019-07-12
« Reply #666 on: July 20, 2019, 12:07:23 PM »
ramen and man holes.

You can't say manholes anymore. It's not gender neutral

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Charged with Rape - 2019-07-12
« Reply #667 on: July 20, 2019, 12:30:55 PM »
glory holes

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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #668 on: July 20, 2019, 03:59:55 PM »
she Maybe removed it because of catty bitches like you . If he was a White Bodybuilder what would your opinion be? seems you like black men  ::) if he did it i hope he goes down.
You have to be trolling. I don’t believe her pathetic story!!!  It’s a load of shit. I like people of all colours, so you are correct I do like black men. If he was white, pink or yellow my views would be the same on this case.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #669 on: July 20, 2019, 09:26:07 PM »
She just has to yell "This is rape, I'll go to Police if you keep going", and Rhoden would throw his life and career away because right after winning Mr. Olympia, with a buffet of fitness chicks begging to fuck him for various motives, he decided to say fuck the Olympia and the rest of my life ro rape a fitness chick in a hotel room? Or saying "This is rape, I'll tell police" wouldn't come to mind? There's just nothing logical about the scenario and like Judge Judy says "If it doesn't make sense, it isn't true".

I'm making some presumptions because he is to be presumed innocent, so that's what I'm doing.Think its offensive, don't care. Plenty of people make presumptions of guilt, like proclaimed vaginal tears indicative of rape that haven't even been cross examined by defense medical experts or given any full medical opinion.  But those presumptions are always fine. So I'm presuming he's innocent.



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Re: Who the f*#k is this L.K.H. whore ???
« Reply #670 on: July 20, 2019, 11:29:04 PM »
she Maybe removed it because of catty bitches like you . If he was a White Bodybuilder what would your opinion be? seems you like black men  ::) if he did it i hope he goes down.

So you don’t find her story / accusations even a little odd.?
Booty gets a lot of stick on here at times for no reason & it appears
Your just being an arse to her for no reason - She’s just stating her
Views, & Plenty of others have a similar view.
If he is guilty then yes of course he should get locked up.
If he’s not then the lying bitch should be locked up for an
Equivalent length of time.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #671 on: July 21, 2019, 12:39:29 AM »
So Shawn is claiming that he took two lie detector tests and that he is innocent.  That it was consensual sex?  This from Ron Harris who says he got the information from a source on these lie detectors.  

So then why did the police charge him if the police had two lie detector tests?



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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #672 on: July 21, 2019, 02:36:16 AM »
So Shawn is claiming that he took two lie detector tests and that he is innocent.  That it was consensual sex?  This from Ron Harris who says he got the information from a source on these lie detectors.  

So then why did the police charge him if the police had two lie detector tests?





The police probably sensed that both the accuser and the accused are liars...  so the police just proceeded with the case

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #673 on: July 21, 2019, 08:08:20 AM »
Shawn Rhoden passed two lie detector tests, according to Ron Harris, and he passed both of them?





According to Ron Harris, he said that he spoke to someone who is very close to the case, and the info is 100% reliable.

Shawn Rhoden did take not one, but two lie detector tests. He passed both of them.  Took a standad polygraph and also a new test called EyeDetect.

Neither test is admissable in court.  But because he passed both tests, it is a sign in his favor.  More evidence is going to come out very soon.

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Re: Shawn Rhoden - Is he innocent? Is there proof?
« Reply #674 on: July 21, 2019, 08:37:30 AM »
Shawn Rhoden passed two lie detector tests, according to Ron Harris, and he passed both of them?





According to Ron Harris, he said that he spoke to someone who is very close to the case, and the info is 100% reliable.

Shawn Rhoden did take not one, but two lie detector tests. He passed both of them.  Took a standad polygraph and also a new test called EyeDetect.

Neither test is admissable in court.  But because he passed both tests, it is a sign in his favor.  More evidence is going to come out very soon.

Ron - I have to correct here. I believe these tests are admissible in court. However their results are not determinative of the verdict. In other words the judge or jury can consider the results in making their finding, but they don’t need to rule not guilty just because this is supported by the tests.