New James Bond

[Pray_4_War]

It's almost like a bunch of idiots overreacting to  a non-story.

Serious question.  Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?

[ratherbebig]

Serious question.  Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?

 

[Earl1972]

that's actually a really good vampire movie

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[Al Doggity]

Serious question.  Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?

There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.

However, creating a character and being a working actor/actress aren't the same things. Likewise, creating a character isn't the same thing as getting funding for a project, much less a blockbuster budget. Even with a character like the Black Widow, who was white, a pre-existing character, part of a successful franchise and played by someone who is considered a star, it took more than a decade to get that solo movie rolling. Why do you think that is?

But considering that the character in this Bond movie isn't a pre-existing character, is the question you're really asking why don't these blacks just stay in their place?  I know some of  y'all were trying to act brand new like that wasn't what y'all meant in that Halle Berry thread.  Is this another franchise you're planning on boycotting?  

[obsidian]

There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.

However, creating a character and being a working actor/actress aren't the same things. Likewise, creating a character isn't the same thing as getting funding for a project, much less a blockbuster budget. Even with a character like the Black Widow, who was white, a pre-existing character, part of a successful franchise and played by someone who is considered a star, it took more than a decade to get that solo movie rolling. Why do you think that is?

But considering that the character in this Bond movie isn't a pre-existing character, is the question you're really asking why don't these blacks just stay in their place?  I know some of  y'all were trying to act brand new like that wasn't what y'all meant in that Halle Berry thread.  Is this another franchise you're planning on boycotting?  

Go to any black country and look at who is playing on their TV screens in their local shows and movies. Chances are you won't find many white people in most of them. So now what is the goal to have black people in movies in Africa, Europe, USA, basically everywhere? Is that the goal. How is that diverse? Whites are a precious minority in the world. There needs to be more white people for the sake of diversity.

A world with only black or chinese people is boring, dumb and ugly.

Jews need to stop their anti white bs. It is going to blow up in their faces guaranteed.

Hope that helps.

[ratherbebig]

if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood

[obsidian]

if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood

How can she slap?!  

https://www.eonline.com/news/1056708/lashana-lynch-makes-history-with-007-role-for-bond-25

"There's been a lot of talk about whether or not [the Bond franchise] is relevant now because of who he is and the way he treats women," she told the outlet back in May. "I think that's bollocks. I think he's absolutely relevant now. It has just got to grow. It has just got to evolve, and the important thing is that the film treats the women properly. He doesn't have to. He needs to be true to this character."

Lol really?? Has the writer not seen all the female sluts in porn online? Getting gang banged, pissed on, shit on etc.?? They act like women are ladies today? This writer should go after porn instead. Bond making a joke about a cute female is fucking tame compared to male pornstars asking a female to open her mouth wide so they can piss in it and use her as a urinal. Fucking hilarious!

[Al Doggity]

Go to any black country and look at who is playing on their TV screens in their local shows and movies. Chances are you won't find many white people in most of them. So now what is the goal to have black people in movies in Africa, Europe, USA, basically everywhere? Is that the goal. How is that diverse? Whites are a precious minority in the world. There needs to be more white people for the sake of diversity.

A world with only black or chinese people is boring, dumb and ugly.

Jews need to stop their anti white bs. It is going to blow up in their faces guaranteed.

Hope that helps.

Truly idiotic post.   Who gives a shit what's  on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries. 

[obsidian]

Truly idiotic post.   Who gives a shit what's  on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries. 

Omg you are too stupid to understand. The point is your people are a pestilence and there should not be many nonwhites in America, UK etc.

If nonwhites were intelligent and less inclined to violence my opinion would be different. But as I see it now it is a real shame that there is such a large low iq nonwhite population on the precious planet. Why for example is a potentially idyllic island like Haiti soured by the abominations that reside there? A Tsar Bomba nuke will wipe out the pests on Haiti so they can start over. I think it would be a nuke well used.

Nonwhites can stay in their own hell holes and no aid should be given so their numbers are culled naturally by nature.

We can have a few token blacks - that should be ok so long as they behave.

[Al Doggity]

Omg you are too stupid to understand. The point is your people are a pestilence and there should not be many nonwhites in America, UK etc.

If nonwhites were intelligent and less inclined to violence my opinion would be different. But as I see it now it is a real shame that there is such a large low iq nonwhite population on the precious planet. Why for example is a potentially idyllic island like Haiti soured by the abominations that reside there? A Tsar Bomba nuke will wipe out the pests on Haiti so they can start over. I think it would be a nuke well used.

Nonwhites can stay in their own hell holes and no aid should be given so their numbers are culled naturally by nature.

We can have a few token blacks - that should be ok so long as they behave.

You're right. I am too stupid to understand when a stupid point that makes no sense is supposed to be a completely different argument. But good luck with the rest of that post. I'm sure it's going to happen soon enough.

[G_Thang]

at least kwon approves.

Definitely, Parker Approved!

[Pray_4_War]

Doing a ripoff of Dracula isn't the same as coming up with you own character.  Hope that helps.

[Pray_4_War]

There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.

Such as? 

I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black.  Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation. 

What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about?  It's a serious question.  Maybe I'm just not remembering them.

[G_Thang]

Such as? 

I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black.  Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation. 

What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about?  It's a serious question.  Maybe I'm just not remembering them.

Do you have a clue WTF you are talking about sometimes?

Agent J
Axel Foley
Django
Ghostface
Jules Winfield
Morpheus
Shaft

By Hollywood standards, these characters (there are a few others) would be considered original just like Bond. Jesus some of you fucking dudes on here!

[Pray_4_War]

Do you have a clue WTF you are talking about sometimes?

Agent J
Axel Foley
Django
Ghostface
Jules Winfield
Morpheus
Shaft

By Hollywood standards, these characters (there are a few others) would be considered original just like Bond. Jesus some of you fucking dudes on here!

I don't know all of these characters but I think the ones I do know like Jules, Shaft, and Morpheus were performed by blacks but they were created and written by white people.

[Pray_4_War]

...and the original Django was white.............but I'm the one who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about.

[IRON CROSS]

if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood

Racist comment reported !.

Enemy (India) of ours enemy (Paki land) is GetBiggers friend !.

[Pray_4_War]

Here's the guy that created the character John Shaft.



Earnest Tidyman

[Pray_4_War]

Axel Foley is a character written and created by Daniel Petrie Jr and Danilo Bach who are not black.......and the person that was originally intended to be cast in the role was Sylvester Stalone.



G_Thang is really bad at this.

[Griffith]

Truly idiotic post.   Who gives a shit what's  on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries.  

UK black population is 3 %

UK white British (excluding Europeans) is 82 %

USA black population is 12 %

USA white population is 72 %

[Al Doggity]

Such as? 

I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black.  Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation. 

What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about?  It's a serious question.  Maybe I'm just not remembering them.

How is Madea not an example of a black role? Because you've seen elements of it before in other works or real life? As if that isn't true of 99% of all characters in all art? Literally every superhero, sitcom, action hero, romantic comedy, fantasy film, cartoon, the topic of this thread, etc but somehow when it comes to black characters, it doesn't count if it's not an original concept?


When it comes to black characters created by black creators, just off the top of my head- you got Ghost and Kanan from Power, one of the highest rated shows on cable, created by a black woman. Martin's character from his sitcom, one of the greatest sitcom characters of all time. Cosby's character from  his sitcom, one of the most influential sitcoms of all time. You got Aaron McGruder, creator of the Boondocks one of the best comic strips and best adult cartoons of all time. (Which reminds me of Black Dynamite, which is one of my favorite movies and favorite adult cartoons). You got the guy who created Elmo, who was been the most profitable character from sesame street for two decades.

I'm sure somehow these don't count as characters for whatever made up new reason. Tv doesn't count? Comedy doesn't count? You specifically meant a black version of James Bond?

[Kwon]

[falco]

Cant wait to see a mexican john wick.

[Pray_4_War]

Cant wait to see a mexican john wick.

Juan Wick?

[Pray_4_War]

How is Madea not an example of a black role? Because you've seen elements of it before in other works or real life? As if that isn't true of 99% of all characters in all art? Literally every superhero, sitcom, action hero, romantic comedy, fantasy film, cartoon, the topic of this thread, etc but somehow when it comes to black characters, it doesn't count if it's not an original concept?


When it comes to black characters created by black creators, just off the top of my head- you got Ghost and Kanan from Power, one of the highest rated shows on cable, created by a black woman. Martin's character from his sitcom, one of the greatest sitcom characters of all time. Cosby's character from  his sitcom, one of the most influential sitcoms of all time. You got Aaron McGruder, creator of the Boondocks one of the best comic strips and best adult cartoons of all time. (Which reminds me of Black Dynamite, which is one of my favorite movies and favorite adult cartoons). You got the guy who created Elmo, who was been the most profitable character from sesame street for two decades.

I'm sure somehow these don't count as characters for whatever made up new reason. Tv doesn't count? Comedy doesn't count? You specifically meant a black version of James Bond?

Madea's whole gimmick is that she's black. That's what the character is.  Fat black woman who says "Oh Lawd" and shit like that.

Martin is just a funny black guy.  A representation of a black man from his generation.  He doesn't do anything but be black.  They aren't going to be making Martin movies 30 years from now with some young actor taking over the role.

Bill Cosby's character was just a representation of an affluent black family.  Fat Albert  would have been a better example from Cosby.  That's something that could live on after Cosby passes away but won't now because of all the drugging and raping.

Boondocks is funny and has popular characters so I'd count that....but if you really look at it, again it's just a representation of black people doing and saying black people stuff.  If you took race out of that show, what's left?  Nothing.

A black dude was the puppeteer for Elmo but be didn't create sesame street.  Grover and Cookie Monster and all that shit was created by someone else.  He came in later and piggybacked off of it...and he had to resign because of multiple accusations of sex with minors.