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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #150 on: July 20, 2019, 11:38:18 PM »

I'm actually trying to engage with you on this topic to discuss those points. I guess just changing what you guys mean every post wasn't enough. Now it's just avoiding and changing the subject?  ???

Okay - I’ll play.
What is your view on Blacks taking on & playing white fictional character roles ?
Why are no black writers writing new black fictional super hero characters ?

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2019, 01:32:26 AM »

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2019, 02:31:50 AM »
I though the Left always complained about so-called cultural appropriation?

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2019, 02:36:39 AM »
It's almost like a bunch of idiots having a meltdown over a non-story.  ???

The story here is using a token female black actor to deliberately add media hype and controversy to help publicise the film.

The casting is not based on any other reasons.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #154 on: July 21, 2019, 04:39:14 AM »
I though the Left always complained about so-called cultural appropriation?


That only applies when white people appropriate their shit.  When they take white people's shit it's fine.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #155 on: July 21, 2019, 08:40:22 PM »
The story here is using a token female black actor to deliberately add media hype and controversy to help publicise the film.

The casting is not based on any other reasons.

I used that response three times in this thread, and it was only to people who said that a better option than having a black female James Bond would be for the studio to do exactly what it's doing. One was as recently as last night.


Okay - I’ll play.
What is your view on Blacks taking on & playing white fictional character roles ?
Why are no black writers writing new black fictional super hero characters ?

Great. I've already made it clear that I don't see a problem with other races playing fictional characters that have been traditionally white.

So, here's the link I posted earlier of the top grossing films from 2018:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018

To save everyone the trouble, I'll just point out what the interesting trend is: Nearly every film in the top 20 is a remake, sequel or part of a franchise. And there are several more when you move down the list. Several weeks this year, every  top 10 earning film of the week has also been either a remake, a sequel or a franchise.

This is not how it's always been. Obviously there have always been sequels and franchises, but comprising almost the entire industry is a fairly recent trend, partially triggered by consolidation in various media industries. So when you look at those trends, there's a few questions that seem obvious to me:

-Why would blacks be ashamed or embarrassed that they're not playing original characters when it's the trend of the entire industry?

-If you're a studio head, and you're following the trend of doing reboots, do you just churn out every reboot you can, or do you try to find a way to differentiate your reboot? Considering the heavy reliance on reboots and the trend of race/gender swapping seemed to coincide, isn't there a likelihood that they have something to do with each other?

This is how getbig was talking about reboots/remakes in 2011:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=388835.0

 You can find multiple threads like this by kicking in the right keywords.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #156 on: July 21, 2019, 11:02:33 PM »
This movie is going to make the Ghostbusters remake look like serious filmwork. The premise borders on parody and it's going to bomb like nothing else.

Why not just develop a character within the Bond movie and make a spinoff? Not that difficult really to make your statement without destroying the franchise.

Actually, it depends on her acting chops. If she was born in the UK and has the accent, the other components will fall in place with a solid European director. Guaranteed she'll be better than TER-MAN-HATER and Social Justice Larson, the North AmeriH@es.  

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #157 on: July 22, 2019, 12:43:56 AM »
What about this legendary character.

Shanaynay!


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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #158 on: July 22, 2019, 12:46:43 AM »
Despicable


But par for the course these days. Expected move.


Natalie Portman is the next Thor
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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #159 on: July 22, 2019, 02:38:20 AM »
Despicable


But par for the course these days. Expected move.


Natalie Portman is the next Thor
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i can live with a female thor b/c of hawk woman, just feel they are similar, but portman is too short.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #160 on: July 22, 2019, 09:58:48 AM »
i can live with a female thor b/c of hawk woman, just feel they are similar, but portman is too short.

They can't do anything with that tiny fragile body of hers.

She could train for years and still not look convincing lifting that hammer.


She'll probably be 100 % CGI or an athletic woman with Portmans face on.
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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #161 on: July 22, 2019, 01:42:06 PM »
I used that response three times in this thread, and it was only to people who said that a better option than having a black female James Bond would be for the studio to do exactly what it's doing. One was as recently as last night.


Great. I've already made it clear that I don't see a problem with other races playing fictional characters that have been traditionally white.

So, here's the link I posted earlier of the top grossing films from 2018:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018

To save everyone the trouble, I'll just point out what the interesting trend is: Nearly every film in the top 20 is a remake, sequel or part of a franchise. And there are several more when you move down the list. Several weeks this year, every  top 10 earning film of the week has also been either a remake, a sequel or a franchise.

This is not how it's always been. Obviously there have always been sequels and franchises, but comprising almost the entire industry is a fairly recent trend, partially triggered by consolidation in various media industries. So when you look at those trends, there's a few questions that seem obvious to me:

-Why would blacks be ashamed or embarrassed that they're not playing original characters when it's the trend of the entire industry?

-If you're a studio head, and you're following the trend of doing reboots, do you just churn out every reboot you can, or do you try to find a way to differentiate your reboot? Considering the heavy reliance on reboots and the trend of race/gender swapping seemed to coincide, isn't there a likelihood that they have something to do with each other?

This is how getbig was talking about reboots/remakes in 2011:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=388835.0

 You can find multiple threads like this by kicking in the right keywords.

Man, have we really ran out of ideas? Are there only a certain amount of scripts? Shit, music always changes. Why not screen plays?

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #162 on: July 22, 2019, 09:20:33 PM »

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #163 on: July 22, 2019, 10:07:36 PM »
They can't do anything with that tiny fragile body of hers.

She could train for years and still not look convincing lifting that hammer.


She'll probably be 100 % CGI or an athletic woman with Portmans face on.


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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #164 on: July 22, 2019, 10:42:59 PM »
Actually, it depends on her acting chops. If she was born in the UK and has the accent, the other components will fall in place with a solid European director. Guaranteed she'll be better than TER-MAN-HATER and Social Justice Larson, the North AmeriH@es.  



She can act like a white man?

Am I missing something or am I supposed to pretend they aren't doing the equivalent of say.......casting PeeWee Herman in a new Shaft movie?

I guess the Kingsman movies took over the 007 mantle.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #165 on: July 23, 2019, 03:15:54 AM »


She can act like a white man?

Am I missing something or am I supposed to pretend they aren't doing the equivalent of say.......casting PeeWee Herman in a new Shaft movie?

I guess the Kingsman movies took over the 007 mantle.

All I know is, she seems to be more palatable than Ter-man-hater.  Then again, minority women aren't the driving force behind metoo, sjw, etc, etc, etc.  

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #167 on: September 09, 2019, 09:18:17 AM »
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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #168 on: September 09, 2019, 09:19:35 AM »
What in the actual fuck?!?! How can you change not only the race, but the sex of a character that is over 60 years old!?!?!

You know what, fuck it!  If they're willing to do this to Bond, I want Wonder Woman to be played by The Rock in the next movie!

I also love how they are more than willing to have a white fictional character played by a black person (Bond, Kingpin), but there would be riots in every shit town if they had a white guy play a known black character! Imagine if they cast Zach Efron as the Black Panther in the sequel, someone please make it happen! lol

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #169 on: September 09, 2019, 09:29:00 AM »
What in the actual fuck?!?! How can you change not only the race, but the sex of a character that is over 60 years old!?!?!

You know what, fuck it!  If they're willing to do this to Bond, I want Wonder Woman to be played by The Rock in the next movie!

I also love how they are more than willing to have a white fictional character played by a black person (Bond, Kingpin), but there would be riots in every shit town if they had a white guy play a known black character! Imagine if they cast Zach Efron as the Black Panther in the sequel, someone please make it happen! lol

Gandalf as a muslim woman next (with burqa), Frodo as a huge 2meter bodybuilder, Aragorn as a wheelchair ridden tranny.

Spock as a black teenage girl, Don Corleone as a huge black woman (like Precious) and an indian as Tony Montana.
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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #170 on: September 09, 2019, 09:35:05 AM »
Gandalf as a muslim woman next (with burqa), Frodo as a huge 2meter bodybuilder, Aragorn as a wheelchair ridden tranny.

Spock as a black teenage girl, Don Corleone as a huge black woman (like Precious) and an indian as Tony Montana.



HAHHAHA! YES to all of these! lol!

Well, since they were more than willing to change the race of Ariel in the new Little Mermaid, how about they make Pocahontas white in the  live action version.  Cause you know Disney will eventually make it, at the rate they're going! lol

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #171 on: September 09, 2019, 09:45:49 AM »

HAHHAHA! YES to all of these! lol!

Well, since they were more than willing to change the race of Ariel in the new Little Mermaid, how about they make Pocahontas white in the  live action version.  Cause you know Disney will eventually make it, at the rate they're going! lol

Black panther needs to be a jewish Zuckerberg-like fellow next, see how the afros feel about that... :D

Barbra Streisand as the new "Shaft" as well.
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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #172 on: September 09, 2019, 11:24:29 AM »
Is it still a Hebrew/Japhite woman?

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #173 on: September 09, 2019, 12:01:51 PM »
Not sure if she will be "Bond" or just some agent, but still pretty silly of them.
Embarrassing like most things in main stream media (news, movies, social media, etc).
Gayer than man-buns and skinny jeans.

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Re: New James Bond
« Reply #174 on: September 09, 2019, 12:11:53 PM »
More woke than a "woke" Gillette-commercial.

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