I once measured my grandma's arm at 21". If it isn't hard defined muscle people are under delusion about their size. If they got their body fat down below 10% that arm size would disappear.
I can say this about that,my arms right now cold are 21.5” at 6’2 247 my training buddy is 5’7 210 with 18.5” cold ripped,I’m far from ripped.We go out in public together all the time and I’m the one who’s gets the huge arm comments never him.Hes prob 10% and I’m prob 20% I have viable bi vein and horseshoe but he has veins all over and just very cut up.So while I’m not lean,I’m not fat so you don’t have to be a contest bodybuilder to measure your arms and not be delusional,some people just don’t give a fuck about being lean.Some just like size.
go4it arm looks awesome.
Vince big arm.
Just saying.