Josh Lenartowicz - health issues

[gib]

Anyone know what's going on? I am suspecting its organ-related, (or possibly mental health related) as opposed to physical injury. Which is really shame, as he was a great white hope for the Mr O. I though he had real potential to even possibly win it if he came in sharp.

[JuicedKangaroo]

Not organ-related from what I've heard, more so mental health. He will be okay. Would like to see him nail his conditioning and place competitively at the O.

[gib]

Not organ-related from what I've heard, more so mental health. He will be okay. Would like to see him nail his conditioning and place competitively at the O.

OK - that's good to hear (that its not organs). All OK with his marriage?

Mentally, you gotta wonder if Dallas (RIP) dying, and seeing his corpse on the floor etc had an effect. Got to have been a real tough moment in life to have experienced that

[Matt]

OK - that's good to hear (that its not organs). All OK with his marriage?

Mentally, you gotta wonder if Dallas (RIP) dying, and seeing his corpse on the floor etc had an effect. Got to have been a real tough moment in life to have experienced that

Agreed. And while people like Dave Palumbo consistently cite genetics, McCarver's case was simply too ridiculous to deny being caused by excessive use of performance enhancing drugs.

Question:

Do you think had McCarver stopped all PEDs after his onstage incident 4-5 months prior to his death and immediately started a medical program to reduce his blood pressure in addition to dropping body weight, would be still be with us, or was the damage already done?

[JuicedKangaroo]

OK - that's good to hear (that its not organs). All OK with his marriage?

Mentally, you gotta wonder if Dallas (RIP) dying, and seeing his corpse on the floor etc had an effect. Got to have been a real tough moment in life to have experienced that

I believe so, haven't heard anything to the contrary - they are expecting a baby.

Yeah, would have been very traumatic for Josh.

Question:

Do you think had McCarver stopped all PEDs after his onstage incident 4-5 months prior to his death and immediately started a medical program to reduce his blood pressure in addition to dropping body weight, would be still be with us, or was the damage already done?

With a hardened kidney, heavy lungs and thyroid cancer, I believe the damage was already done sadly.

[Skylge]

Never heard of this Josh guy, but he probably considers himself a legend in his own mind

Mental issues and roids / GH / diuretics / insulin, it's often a tricky combination

[booty]

He should get out while he can.

[kreator]

I thought one had to be mentally ill in the first place to undergo such extreme drug protocols.

[JuicedKangaroo]

Never heard of this Josh guy, but he probably considers himself a legend in his own mind

Yet you'll pass judgement anyway.. Josh is one of the most grounded, down to Earth competitors out there. A gentle giant.

I thought one had to be mentally ill in the first place to undergo such extreme drug protocols.

Didn't know you were privy to his dosages, please do share...

[Tennisballz]

Doesn’t he claim natural?

[kreator]

Yet you'll pass judgement anyway.. Josh is one of the most grounded, down to Earth competitors out there. A gentle giant.

Didn't know you were privy to his dosages, please do share...

Oh, my bad. I didn‘t know he was the only guy on TRT in the Olympia lineup. He‘s a good guy like u said. A gentle giant. A true inspiration.

[Coach is Back!]

Oh, my bad. I didn‘t know he was the only guy on TRT in the Olympia lineup. He‘s a good guy like u said. A gentle giant. A true inspiration.

 Don’t skate question you obviously know something the rest of us don’t what is he on 1 g 2 g 5 g 6 g what’s he on?

[deadz]

Josh gets a whooooo cares.

[JuicedKangaroo]

Doesn’t he claim natural?

In an interview, he did indirectly. He was asked a question about "steroids and cheating" to which he said he's never cheated. Everyone knows he is not natural, I think he was just caught off guard. He is softly spoken and was presumably nervous.

Oh, my bad. I didn‘t know he was the only guy on TRT in the Olympia lineup. He‘s a good guy like u said. A gentle giant. A true inspiration.

Imagine implying that being on testosterone and being a 'good guy' or 'gentle giant' are mutually exclusive... Sad little man you are.

Josh gets a whooooo cares.

Settle down Genova

[kreator]

Don’t skate question you obviously know something the rest of us don’t what is he on 1 g 2 g 5 g 6 g what’s he on?

Tree fiddy

[kreator]

In an interview, he did indirectly. He was asked a question about "steroids and cheating" to which he said he's never cheated. Everyone knows he is not natural, I think he was just caught off guard. He is softly spoken and was presumably nervous.

Imagine implying that being on testosterone and being a 'good guy' or 'gentle giant' are mutually exclusive... Sad little man you are.

Settle down Genova

Well he‘s on my deadpool list. I have zero respect for drug addicts.

[Fortress]

Who?

[Coach is Back!]

Well he‘s on my deadpool list. I have zero respect for drug addicts.

SF tried pulling the same shit by labeling every bodybuilder as "drug addict" and got caught. Define "addict". 

[SF1900]

Well he‘s on my deadpool list. I have zero respect for drug addicts.

Yup the addiction is real.

[Dokey111]

SF tried pulling the same shit by labeling every bodybuilder as "drug addict" and got caught. Define "addict". 

come on

[kreator]

SF tried pulling the same shit by labeling every bodybuilder as "drug addict" and got caught. Define "addict". 

Any person that heavilly relies on chemical substances to achieve a certain goal that’s not health related. I see guys in their late 40s, 50s in the gym with purple faces probably from high BP caused by steroids still wanting to be big because they are mentally too weak to handle being just fit and regular size.  

[Coach is Back!]

Any person that heavilly relies on chemical substances to achieve a certain goal that’s not health related. I see guys in their late 40s, 50s in the gym with purple faces probably from high BP caused by steroids still wanting to be big because they are mentally too weak to handle being just fit and regular size.  

Ok, so you guys in your gym with purple faces and it's automatically assumed that it's from gear. Here's legit question for you. This is a bodybuilding (supposedly) website, are you on here just to make uninformed accusations and to shit on bodybuilding as a whole or do you actually have something to contribute.

Unless you're perfect with no vices, there are a million other things out there besides "steroids" that would do a hell of a lot more damage to your health.

[Bevo]

SF tried pulling the same shit by labeling every bodybuilder as "drug addict" and got caught. Define "addict". 

Using more than real “trt” dosages prescribed by a doctor is an addict

Chasing big muscles, on various cycles of insulin, gh, peptides, IS an addict

You see, addicts almost ALWAYS have to justify their usage, usual signs of an addict 

[Bevo]

Ok, so you guys in your gym with purple faces and it's automatically assumed that it's from gear. Here's legit question for you. This is a bodybuilding (supposedly) website, are you on here just to make uninformed accusations and to shit on bodybuilding as a whole or do you actually have something to contribute.

[/Unless you're perfect with no vices, there are a million other things out there besides "steroids" that would do a hell of a lot more damage to your health.

Here you go justifying your usage, in the end they are ALL bad

Weren’t you addicted to meth back in the day? Or other drugs?

[kreator]

Ok, so you guys in your gym with purple faces and it's automatically assumed that it's from gear. Here's legit question for you. This is a bodybuilding (supposedly) website, are you on here just to make uninformed accusations and to shit on bodybuilding as a whole or do you actually have something to contribute.

Unless you're perfect with no vices, there are a million other things out there besides "steroids" that would do a hell of a lot more damage to your health.

I love working out and improving my physique so in a way yes i like bodybuilding to a certain level. It doesn‘t mean i can‘t make fun of it or shit on it. My schmoeing days are long over and I like how people here expose what really goes on. Drugs, lies, selling snake oil, narcissists, sociopaths, health issues, personal trainers with no education etc.
The stuff i see here really makes me glad i never went the heavy drug use route. At a certain point of life you have to ask yourself what is more important, the attention or your health.
I also come here for the drama, laughs etc. This place is really entertaining. I love getbig!