Evolution Is False

[Primemuscle]

 

Very naive question but: what is at the bottom , sand, rocks ,.................his body must land on someting 

The abyss.

[Primemuscle]

It's fine to question mainstream science, but please don't make it seem like the truth of the Bible depends upon evolution being false. The earliest Christians and Jews, men who lived long before any modern scientific theory about evolution, etc, didn't think the book of Genesis was trying to describe a literal history of creation. Even apart from any scientific discoveries about the age of the earth, etc, there's good reasons to interpret the six days of creation as an allegory.

Exactly! Thank you for this clarity. It is all the more emphatic coming from someone who has evolved and transformed as you have.

[IRON CROSS]

The abyss.

How deep  , in metric please 
         

[Primemuscle]

How deep   , in metric please  
          

Very, very deep....beyond measure by any means.

[IRON CROSS]

Very, very deep....beyond measure by any means.

so no chance to recover wiggzy body 

[Primemuscle]

so no chance to recover wiggzy body 

Didn't you know? Wiggs is an angel. Therefore, he can fly. No harm, no foul.

[sync pulse]

The earliest Christians and Jews, men who lived long before any modern scientific theory about evolution, etc, didn't think the book of Genesis was trying to describe a literal history of creation. Even apart from any scientific discoveries about the age of the earth, etc, there's good reasons to interpret the six days of creation as an allegory.

Exactly! Thank you for this clarity. It is all the more emphatic coming from someone who has evolved and transformed as you have.

The so called "Big Bang Theory" is far from an atheistic conception. (The original name is "The Hypothesis of the Primeval Atom")

The scientist who formulated the idea was a Catholic Priest...Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître.
He worked at the "Université Catholique de Louvain"

[Wiggs]

The so called "Big Bang Theory" is far from an atheistic conception. (The original name is "The Hypothesis of the Primeval Atom")

The scientist who formulated the idea was a Catholic Priest...Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître.
He worked at the "Université Catholique de Louvain"

Probably a piece of shit Jesuit. Lying scum.

[IRON CROSS]

Didn't you know? Wiggs is an angel. Therefore, he can fly. No harm, no foul.

Holy Jeezzuss, I didn't realize that chubby angels could fly (take of  ) ....................

[sync pulse]

Probably a piece of shit Jesuit. Lying scum.

Diocesan...

[Notomorrow]

What nonsense. The Law of Conservation of Mass refers only to chemical reactions. Without God the universe would not exist just as your posts would not exist without you.

Total bullshit. A beginning of matter means matter would have to be created from nothing. A beginning of time suggests there was NOTHING before that point of a beginning. So you explain to me the concept of NOTHING. No time, no matter, NOTHING. So some magical chemical reaction that idiot me does not understand can occur out of NOTHING. Not just no matter, but no time, for it was before the beginning of time. So something happened when nothing can happen, for there are no dimensions, no time, nothing to evolve from. Go get a fucking petri dish, put NOTHING in it, in a vacuum that cannot be invaded, not even air or ANY atoms of anything ever and wait for a chemical reaction to occur Mr. Science.

[Lon Barrigan]

Total bullshit. A beginning of matter means matter would have to be created from nothing. A beginning of time suggests there was NOTHING before that point of a beginning. So you explain to me the concept of NOTHING. No time, no matter, NOTHING. So some magical chemical reaction that idiot me does not understand can occur out of NOTHING. Not just no matter, but no time, for it was before the beginning of time. So something happened when nothing can happen, for there are no dimensions, no time, nothing to evolve from. Go get a fucking petri dish, put NOTHING in it, in a vacuum that cannot be invaded, not even air or ANY atoms of anything ever and wait for a chemical reaction to occur Mr. Science.

God created all things from nothing. Time has always existed.

[Ropo]

Plainly you do not comprehend facts or evidence. Evolution was debunked ages ago. Fossils are relics of the Flood. Do not argue with reality. Just absorb the information that is presented to you.

I don't? Relics of the flood, which take place when exactly? By Christians, something like 3000 - 4000 years ago, while science has proved that oldest fossils are 4000 millions years old. By the bible, earth is only 6000 years old, so WTF? Your problem is simple: people who wrote the bible, didin't understand that in the future there will be people who ask these questions. No matter which way you try to twist it, it doesn't make any sense.

When these creationist fools finally understand that facts are against them, they calculated earths age again, and find out that it has to be 4.5 billion years old. Fine, but that calculation is so out of sync with bible, that it make even less sense.  God creates the world in six days and consecrates the seventh as a day of rest, 4.5 billion years ago. God creates the first humans Adam and Eve and all the animals in the Garden of Eden,...so where all these Neanderthals came from?

We have bones from every step between Homo habilis to homo sapiens, and by that we see how the mankind has developed.  And that isn't all, we have lot of different stages of development from many different species, so we know where they are coming and what they are now. God created man in his own image, so was he an ape? Starting point of human evolution was Adam, the chimpanzee ??

[Dave D]

I don't? Relics of the flood, which take place when exactly? By Christians, something like 3000 - 4000 years ago, while science has proved that oldest fossils are 4000 millions years old. By the bible, earth is only 6000 years old, so WTF? Your problem is simple: people who wrote the bible, didin't understand that in the future there will be people who ask these questions. No matter which way you try to twist it, it doesn't make any sense.

When these creationist fools finally understand that facts are against them, they calculated earths age again, and find out that it has to be 4.5 billion years old. Fine, but that calculation is so out of sync with bible, that it make even less sense.  God creates the world in six days and consecrates the seventh as a day of rest, 4.5 billion years ago. God creates the first humans Adam and Eve and all the animals in the Garden of Eden,...so where all these Neanderthals came from?

We have bones from every step between Homo habilis to homo sapiens, and by that we see how the mankind has developed.  And that isn't all, we have lot of different stages of development from many different species, so we know where they are coming and what they are now. God created man in his own image, so was he an ape? Starting point of human evolution was Adam, the chimpanzee ??

Good points Ropo.

Where are the apes who are in the evolution phase to Neanderthals?

Or does evolution determine Neanderthals are extinct because they serve no purpose?

But why do we still have the same apes and chimps from millions of years ago? Why isnt there an example of a chimp ape/hybrid or ape/neanderthal  in present day? It's odd that we dont have any evidence of evolution in process today.

[Lon Barrigan]

Good points Ropo.

Where are the apes who are in the evolution phase to Neanderthals?

Or does evolution determine Neanderthals are extinct because they serve no purpose?

But why do we still have the same apes and chimps from millions of years ago? Why isnt there an example of a chimp ape/hybrid or ape/neanderthal  in present day? It's odd that we dont have any evidence of evolution in process today.

There is no such thing as a missing link as evolution has never occurred.

[Palumboism]

Good points Ropo.

Where are the apes who are in the evolution phase to Neanderthals?

Or does evolution determine Neanderthals are extinct because they serve no purpose?

But why do we still have the same apes and chimps from millions of years ago? Why isnt there an example of a chimp ape/hybrid or ape/neanderthal  in present day? It's odd that we dont have any evidence of evolution in process today.

We do.  All life is constantly evolving.  

Any domesticated animal could be used as an example.  Look at how different breeds of dog are compared to the wolf they're decedents of.  Domestication is just natural selection with man doing the selection.  The process of evolution takes place over thousands and millions of years.  

There are fossils of the in between stages you're looking for.  Lucy is a perfect example.
Lucy was 1.1 m (3 ft 7 in) tall,[18] weighed 29 kg (64 lb), and (after reconstruction) looked somewhat like a chimpanzee. The creature had a small brain like a chimpanzee, but the pelvis and leg bones were almost identical in function to those of modern humans, showing with certainty that Lucy's species were hominins that had stood upright and had walked erect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

[Lon Barrigan]

We do.  All life is constantly evolving.  

Any domesticated animal could be used as an example.  Look at how different breeds of dog are compared to the wolf they're decedents of.  Domestication is just natural selection with man doing the selection.  The process of evolution takes place over thousands and millions of years.  

There are fossils of the in between stages you're looking for.  Lucy is a perfect example.
Lucy was 1.1 m (3 ft 7 in) tall,[18] weighed 29 kg (64 lb), and (after reconstruction) looked somewhat like a chimpanzee. The creature had a small brain like a chimpanzee, but the pelvis and leg bones were almost identical in function to those of modern humans, showing with certainty that Lucy's species were hominins that had stood upright and had walked erect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

Evolution is but a figment of the imagination as random chance does not accomplish anything. 'Natural Selection' does not exist as nature is not a living entity that is at liberty to select.

https://creation.com/no-more-love-for-lucy

[Necrosis]

Total bullshit. A beginning of matter means matter would have to be created from nothing. A beginning of time suggests there was NOTHING before that point of a beginning. So you explain to me the concept of NOTHING. No time, no matter, NOTHING. So some magical chemical reaction that idiot me does not understand can occur out of NOTHING. Not just no matter, but no time, for it was before the beginning of time. So something happened when nothing can happen, for there are no dimensions, no time, nothing to evolve from. Go get a fucking petri dish, put NOTHING in it, in a vacuum that cannot be invaded, not even air or ANY atoms of anything ever and wait for a chemical reaction to occur Mr. Science.

The current moment is not in time, that's only a conceptualization of your mind, things change within the now, there is movement for sure. However, the now is always present, when it was the past it was now, when its the future its now, its always now. There is no other time called the future or past as the now does not come into and out of existence, it is existence!

[Tbomzisback!]

Genesis is historical fact.

https://creation.com/should-genesis-be-taken-literally

https://creation.com/genesis-bible-authors-believed-it-to-be-history

I'm quite familiar with creation.com, and they do have some interesting critiques of the mainstream scientific theories, and some defenses of the "young earth" position which I find fascinating. But the book of Genesis probably wasn't intending to teach a literal scientific history of the six days of creation. And the mainstream scientific theories do have very strong evidence in their favor (like distant starlight, etc).

[Tbomzisback!]

Exactly! Thank you for this clarity. It is all the more emphatic coming from someone who has evolved and transformed as you have.

No problem. St. Augustine, writing in the 4th century, wrote a commentary called "On the literal interpretation of Genesis." He argued the six days could not be 24-hours. For starters, there wasn't even a sun until day 4. Secondly, the population of the earth by animals vis-a-vis natural reproduction would certainly take longer than 24 hours (yet Genesis says it happened in one "day"). These things indicated to Augustine that Genesis was not literal.

[Dave D]

We do.  All life is constantly evolving.  

Any domesticated animal could be used as an example.  Look at how different breeds of dog are compared to the wolf they're decedents of.  Domestication is just natural selection with man doing the selection.  The process of evolution takes place over thousands and millions of years.  

There are fossils of the in between stages you're looking for.  Lucy is a perfect example.
Lucy was 1.1 m (3 ft 7 in) tall,[18] weighed 29 kg (64 lb), and (after reconstruction) looked somewhat like a chimpanzee. The creature had a small brain like a chimpanzee, but the pelvis and leg bones were almost identical in function to those of modern humans, showing with certainty that Lucy's species were hominins that had stood upright and had walked erect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

My question is why we dont have examples of evolution in process. If we know we derived from apes where is the modern day link?

We have chimps. We have apes. We have man. We had neanderthals. Where is the evolution?

Men, apes and chimps have been the same for thousands of years.  

You use the example of  the domesticated dog, which is a great example of evolution. What do fossils say about their evolution? Was there a segways between wolf and dog, a neanderthal version if you will? Or were they bred in their classes?  

Can a human breed with an ape or chimp or can an ape and chimp produce offspring?

I'm asking this all legitimately.

Are there species in evolution right now and we can see the timeline or differences between the base and the evolution?

[Necrosis]

I'm quite familiar with creation.com, and they do have some interesting critiques of the mainstream scientific theories, and some defenses of the "young earth" position which I find fascinating. But the book of Genesis probably wasn't intending to teach a literal scientific history of the six days of creation. And the mainstream scientific theories do have very strong evidence in their favor (like distant starlight, etc).

well look at you, all beliefs are false!

[Dave D]

well look at you, all beliefs are false!

LOL

[IRON CROSS]

+ 25 kg of 'safety fat' on that porky  

[Tbomzisback!]

well look at you, all beliefs are false!

Why do you say that?