Offical whistleblower-complaint about Trump involves Ukraine

[Howard]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp

[loco]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp

This looks pretty serious.
Obviously many Trumpers will try to blow it off and/or attack the messenger.
But  THIS official complaint is a different level of credibility and evidence:

1. The whistleblower statutes PROTECT any federal employee when they file a complaint via proper channels. ( done, check)
2. In IG not the DOJ is the investigative authority . This assignment of authority is part of the federal law statutes.
3. Unlike previous charges against Trump , the offense is officially on file .

The WH and DOJ will try to use exec. priv. to keep this quiet, BUT, the law is pretty clear on whistleblower protections.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33918.pdf     I included the actual law , (which is 18 pgs) to fact check myself.
Plus the whistleblower just hired a hvy wt lawyer that is an experienced expert lawyer to represent him.

Is this more serious than Trump taking pee showers from Russian hookers?   

[loco]

This is the typical flip response I included in my OP.
I don't think some "bait and switch" deflection will work this time.
Try again and come back with some facts.

Oh, sorry bro!

Is this more serious than Trump's grab them by the kitty statement, his tax returns, his alleged Russian collusion, his alleged treason, his getting paid for sex by that Stormy porn start, etc., etc.?     

I'm sure this time Trump is really done for.  Good work, Howard!

[loco]

Again, this isn't a rumor or sex scandal.
THIS is an actual federal employee from the intel services who filed
an official complaint on an issue related to national security.

They are protected by the federal whistleblower law.

Obviously, I don't know how this will turn out. I do know, it's serious despite your flip reply.

Whuuuoooaaat??  A 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor?  This is an outrage.  

[loco]

Still hopeful it's a joke and avoiding the core issue.

Seriously, a 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor?

[loco]

It was a serious investigation.
They didn't find any direct evidence that Trump personally colluded with Russia.

The report also included 100 pgs detailing that Russia did hack into our election .

 A St Petersburg based troll farm  used social media to promote Trump and disgrace Hildabeast   .


The investigation found 10 incidents of obstruction with 7 pretty solid. But no impeachment charges were brought , so we move on.

Right...so we move on to a new multi year, multi million dollar investigation.  I'm sure this time you'll get Trump.  

The presidential elections are next year.  I expect to see much more of this, and worse, coming from Dems since that's the only way they see to beat Trump.  Hate Trump and overthrow him is all Dems have.

[loco]

Loco, your flip replies on this remind me the typical gym bro after they get shot down.

1. Bob Bicep tries to hit on Sally Suckadick at the gym.
2. His attempted hook up fails worse then the Polish Calvary vs the German Panzer attack in 1939.
3. He returns to wts to complete his 16th set of bench presses.
4. When asked about the failed interaction , he shrugs and says ; " She's a lezbo."


Attacking the messenger makes one feel better then dealing with reality.

When did I attack you?  You're more sensitive and delicate today than usual.

I'm the only one who has responded to your thread so far, and I haven't insulted you.  How ungrateful of you.

[JustPlaneJane]

The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming

[mazrim]

Loco's responses are the only responses appropriate for this. Not sure what Howard is looking for. Same thing day after day with these stories.

[JustPlaneJane]

Rudy G  actually said he asked Ukraine to investigate Biden.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-scandal-is-hiding-in-plain-sight.html
Someone is crooked traitor and it isn't Joe Biden.

From the article:

“It’s also possible the conservation was with the leader of a different country — while we know it was about Ukraine, reporters still haven’t confirmed the call was with Ukraine. One could easily imagine, say, Trump asking Vladimir Putin to threaten Ukraine into smearing Biden.”

Now that is some serious, non-partisan, unbiased hack reporting !

Howard, you truly are an uneducated, live off the government teat, fool.

[JustPlaneJane]

Whuuuoooaaat??  A 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor?  This is an outrage.  

When whistleblower Julian Assange released information on Hillary Clinton the Democrats wanted him put in prison.

When an anonymous whistleblower leaks an uncorroborated story about President Donald Trump the Democrats want the President impeached.

Seems a little bit hypocritical doesn’t it ?

[Primemuscle]

Is this more serious than Trump taking pee showers from Russian hookers?   

What do you think?

[loco]

What do you think?

Since the first one let Dems to a multi year, multi million dollar investigation that did nothing to overthrow Trump like they wanted, I'd hate to think how long and how much this one will take if it's really any more serious.

[chaos]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp

This looks pretty serious.
Obviously many Trumpers will try to blow it off and/or attack the messenger.
But  THIS official complaint is a different level of credibility and evidence:

1. The whistleblower statutes PROTECT any federal employee when they file a complaint via proper channels. ( done, check)
2. In IG not the DOJ is the investigative authority . This assignment of authority is part of the federal law statutes.
3. Unlike previous charges against Trump , the offense is officially on file .

The WH and DOJ will try to use exec. priv. to keep this quiet, BUT, the law is pretty clear on whistleblower protections.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33918.pdf     I included the actual law , (which is 18 pgs) to fact check myself.
Plus the whistleblower just hired a hvy wt lawyer that is an experienced expert lawyer to represent him.

Meh. More bullshit "get Trump". The people have tired of this game.

[jude2]

The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming

This was a master plan by Trump. It was the only way to get this info on Biden's family out.

[JustPlaneJane]

This was a master plan by Trump. It was the only way to get this info on Biden's family out.

A spy who allegedly spied on the President does not have a legitimate whistleblower complaint against that President under the law.  The Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) is a mechanism to report alleged misconduct by members within the intelligence community, of which the President is not.  The alphabet soup of intel agencies ultimately report to the President, but that does not make President Trump a member of that community and subject to its rules of conduct

[Moontrane]

A spy who allegedly spied on the President does not have a legitimate whistleblower complaint against that President under the law.  The Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) is a mechanism to report alleged misconduct by members within the intelligence community, of which the President is not.  The alphabet soup of intel agencies ultimately report to the President, but that does not make President Trump a member of that community and subject to its rules of conduct

Our Legacy media will run with this as long as they can.  The Office of the Intelligence Community
Inspector General (ICIG) has 14 days to make a determination as to its credibility.

By October 3, our media will have dropped the story, maybe sooner.

https://e.ggtimer.com/18720%20minutes

[sync pulse]

Oh, sorry bro!

Is this more serious than Trump's grab them by the kitty statement, his tax returns, his alleged Russian collusion, his alleged treason, his getting paid for sex by that Stormy porn start, etc., etc.?     

I'm sure this time Trump is really done for. 

The only reason the GOP has protected Trump is because of all the judges they are getting...

[JustPlaneJane]

The only reason the GOP has protected Trump is because of all the judges they are getting...

The only reason?

Must be a Primemuscle gimmick

[chaos]

The only reason?

Must be a Primemuscle gimmick

Too smart to be Prime

[JustPlaneJane]

Too smart to be Prime

That doesn’t narrow it down by much

[SOMEPARTS]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175492408412430336


WATCH THE VIDEOS.


Biden gave Ukraine prosecutor(in this issue about his son's gas dealings)...6 hours to dismiss case or cut off 1 BILLION in aid to them. QUID PRO QUO. Biden is on video bragging about it.

EPIC backfire on this.... Trump running circles around clowns. Biden is toast. Warren loses in historic landslide.

[loco]

The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming

JustPlaneJane was right all along.  Well done.

Wouldn't surprise me if the "whistle blower" was all a well thought out plan by Trump's people.

[Primemuscle]

Meh. More bullshit "get Trump". The people have tired of this game.

Have they? Let's see if they have.

Rudy spilled the beans during a televised interview. He tried to back track, but the evidence of his comments are there. He said one thing one minute and then a few minutes later said the complete opposite.

Personally, I am tired of our elected Republican legislators turning a blind eye to this monster. Trump is thumbing his nose at the American public and many of them are lapping up his snot.

[chaos]

Have they? Let's see if they have.

Rudy spilled the beans during a televised interview. He tried to back track, but the evidence of his comments are there. He said one thing one minute and then a few minutes later said the complete opposite.

Personally, I am tired of our elected Republican legislators turning a blind eye to this monster. Trump is thumbing his nose at the American public and many of them are lapping up his snot.

If you're talking about that news guy that twisted his words and tried to make something out of nothing, you're wrong.