Author Topic: NCAA to pay College Athletes (Read 3643 times)

Coach is Back! · « **on:** September 30, 2019, 08:24:34 PM »

Ok guys, I’m not just a meathead bodybuilder. I’ve owned my own facilities where our primary clientele were High School, College and NFL Athletes for almost 20 years. We would also prepare D1 College Football Athletes for their NFL combines and Pro-Days and to this day still have 18+ of our Athletes still active in the NFL. I would like to hear thoughts on this. I’m honestly up in the air. My feelings are if the NCAA is forced to pay D1 Athletes for endorsement deals, it should only be in the form of an added College stipend AND their entire education should be paid as well. IMO, this would still keep their non-pro status until they can prove they are ready for the NFL. Thoughts? Would also like to hear your thoughts on what Mark Cuban had to say...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/mark-cuban-ncaa-players-profit-implode

gmflex · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2019, 08:51:41 PM »

All the colleges / university's are making millions of the athletes.. A lot of those players won't make the pro's.. So this wil probably be there only opportunity to make some $$
So I'm all for it..

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2019, 08:58:22 PM »

Quote from: gmflex on September 30, 2019, 08:51:41 PM

All the colleges / university's are making millions of the athletes.. A lot of those players won't make the pro's.. So this wil probably be there only opportunity to make some $$
So I'm all for it..

You know it just fucking rips my heart out and damn near kills me to think that Gavin Newsom actually made a good call here 😠

Marvin Martian · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2019, 09:30:41 PM »

Coach I am mixed on this. I don’t think it should be full on professional - but I don’t like the players image being used without compensation. I do think the value of the scholarship as well as the value of being exposed to professional scouts should be considered - but D1 sports is such a huge business now that this seems inevitable.
It’s very hard to argue against capitalism in my opinion. I expect to be paid for my contribution and it just doesn’t seem like a bad thing to pay these kids for theirs. The NCAA may find that it has the effect of some kids staying in school rather than entering the draft (other than the obvious first rounders).

rocket · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2019, 02:54:28 AM »

It's a racket and the sooner they start paying the ones who actually fuel their racket, the better. Not many make it further, they deserve their money.

kreator · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2019, 03:24:08 AM »

How does sport improve our lives? I mean how does watching other people play sports improve the society? Being paid to play sports is one of the saddest things

Royalty · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2019, 04:21:42 AM »

Quote from: kreator on October 01, 2019, 03:24:08 AM

How does sport improve our lives? I mean how does watching other people play sports improve the society? Being paid to play sports is one of the saddest things

Hey dummy, your statement is complete bullshit. You hypocrite. You watch pro bodybuilders get paid to win competitions.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2019, 05:03:22 AM »

Quote from: kreator on October 01, 2019, 03:24:08 AM

How does sport improve our lives? I mean how does watching other people play sports improve the society? Being paid to play sports is one of the saddest things

Extrapolate this statement to any form of entertainment.

We shouldn't watch things for enjoyment?

Twaddle · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2019, 05:13:47 AM »

This a terrible idea. Currently, college kids play sports, because they want to win. That is what has always made NCAA more fun to watch, as opposed to NFL, MLB, NBA.

Take NFL for example. This year, you had several high profile players, sitting out the entire preseason, holding their teams hostage, because they wanted a bigger contract. Furthermore, time and time again, once these high profile players get their huge contracts, they stop playing at 100%. If the NCAA starts paying kids, you'll see the same bullshit, in an even younger, more undeveloped mind.

I envision college kids, threatening to sit on the bench, unless they get more money/endorsements. $:-\$

Tapeworm · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2019, 05:27:07 AM »

It's contrary to the spirit of collegiate athletics. As is the fact that they already get a free ride, get forgiven for academic underperformance, free housing, and god knows what else. Meanwhile the guys in physics and engineering who are going to actually enrich mankind are under a crushing debt.

Hey, if you want to get paid to play ball then go be a pro, since that is the definition of the word.

bigkid · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2019, 05:27:50 AM »

Quote from: Twaddle on October 01, 2019, 05:13:47 AM

This a terrible idea. Currently, college kids play sports, because they want to win. That is what has always made NCAA more fun to watch, as opposed to NFL, MLB, NBA.

Take NFL for example. This year, you had several high profile players, sitting out the entire preseason, holding their teams hostage, because they wanted a bigger contract. Furthermore, time and time again, once these high profile players get their huge contracts, they stop playing at 100%. If the NCAA starts paying kids, you'll see the same bullshit, in an even younger, more undeveloped mind.

I envision college kids, threatening to sit on the bench, unless they get more money/endorsements. $:-\$

Agreed. It's another good intentioned idea that will have bad repercussions. It's bad news for college sports.

Marty Champions · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:24:20 AM »

Like those kids need 2 be any more spoiled

dan18 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:28:32 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on September 30, 2019, 08:24:34 PM

Ok guys, I’m not just a meathead bodybuilder. I’ve owned my own facilities where our primary clientele were High School, College and NFL Athletes for almost 20 years. We would also prepare D1 College Football Athletes for their NFL combines and Pro-Days and to this day still have 18+ of our Athletes still active in the NFL. I would like to hear thoughts on this. I’m honestly up in the air. My feelings are if the NCAA is forced to pay D1 Athletes for endorsement deals, it should only be in the form of an added College stipend AND their entire education should be paid as well. IMO, this would still keep their non-pro status until they can prove they are ready for the NFL. Thoughts? Would also like to hear your thoughts on what Mark Cuban had to say...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/mark-cuban-ncaa-players-profit-implode

If they get paid it should be one flat rate for all players because as soon as you build animosity within the team unit people will not play the same, And yes its an ego thing even some pros get to big for their britches

Redux · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:29:29 AM »

One of the worst ideas ever. Ever.

dan18 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:38:32 AM »

Quote from: Redux on October 01, 2019, 06:29:29 AM

One of the worst ideas ever. Ever.

Oh no ive seen worse

The Keto Kid · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:53:27 AM »

I didn't click the link, if they want to get paid I would say then universities should stop giving athletic scholarships. If they play well they get their tuition paid for. If they don't then they have to pay for their own tuition, just like the real world.

kreator · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2019, 07:03:29 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 01, 2019, 04:21:42 AM

Hey dummy, your statement is complete bullshit. You hypocrite. You watch pro bodybuilders get paid to win competitions.

I don’t. Besides BB isn’t a sport.

G_Thang · « **Reply #17 on:** October 01, 2019, 07:46:18 AM »

I can see a free ride along with a normal financial aid stipend to get them through the semester but fucking getting paid! Is this a joke?

Stipends are funds given to students who meet strict eligibility requirements and are approved and issued by academic departments and/or financial aid offices. Stipends are not loans. Stipends may go directly to the student or be applied to pay certain educational expenses on the University bill.

Please tell me this isn't enough for the normal student-athlete?

The dumbest player on the team can literally finish with a 2.0 and an Engineering Degree b/c the university would assign him a FUCKING PROFESSOR AS A TUTOR. Forget student study hall.

If this isn't good enough, then just let them go to the NFL straight out of high school. The league is already dog shit.

kh300 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2019, 08:46:09 AM »

I would love to see what these 'woke' college students will do when they see athletes getting paid and not them.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2019, 08:54:50 AM »

Quote from: kreator on October 01, 2019, 07:03:29 AM

I don’t. Besides BB isn’t a sport.

Agree

Royalty · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2019, 08:57:14 AM »

Quote from: kreator on October 01, 2019, 07:03:29 AM

I don’t. Besides BB isn’t a sport.

You don’t watch bodybuilding competitions?

Read your comment in this thread...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=656501.0

Royalty · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2019, 09:00:55 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2019, 08:54:50 AM

Agree

Coach do you agree with other statements in this thread?

Quote from: kreator on October 01, 2019, 03:24:08 AM

How does sport improve our lives? I mean how does watching other people play sports improve the society? Being paid to play sports is one of the saddest things

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2019, 09:01:54 AM »

I don’t think they should get paid. Their school, room and board is paid for in full which is great. That said, the colleges should not be able to use their likeness or names on jerseys either. Fair is fair.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2019, 09:17:50 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 01, 2019, 09:00:55 AM

Coach do you agree with other statements in this thread?

I absolutely don’t agree with that statement. It’s a job. Entertainment or not people need entertainment in their lives. As far as improving society? Absolutely especially starting out in sports at a young age. Most kids will sometimes look up to a good coach as opposed to their own parents.

Using the HOF as an example, I’ve been to one HOF ceremony in Canton and still watch it every year. When most of these guys come up to make their speeches they give most of the credit to their HS and college coaches. Why? Most come from oppressed, single family homes and a coaches guidance is sometimes all they have. If they have bumps along the way during their careers, it’s usually the coach or coaches that get them back on track.

I’m not talking about he Athletes that think they know better that take a different path (Antonio Brown comes to mind as of late) but the ones that use their fame and wealth to helps others. That being said, it’s a HUGE benefit to society.

G_Thang · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2019, 09:27:22 AM »

Quote from: Irongrip400 on October 01, 2019, 09:01:54 AM

I don’t think they should get paid. Their school, room and board is paid for in full which is great. That said, the colleges should not be able to use their likeness or names on jerseys either. Fair is fair.

How about those MFers just go straight to the NFL out of high school and try and make the cut? They do it in the NBA and MLB.

When they go to an nfl camp and get their asses handed to them along with losing their eligibility, let us see them crying about their likeness on a badge at Costco or Target.