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Any of y’all have a disc replacement?
« on: October 11, 2019, 10:10:43 AM »
Just trying to gague worst case scenerio if a fusion or disc replacement is the lesser of two evils. Thanks.

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Re: Any of y’all have a disc replacement?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2019, 10:23:18 AM »
Just trying to gague worst case scenerio if a fusion or disc replacement is the lesser of two evils. Thanks.

What does your doctor say? It seems to me that every case is different. It might not be a great idea to act on someone else's experience.

Based on the results of a moment of Internet search, I'd think disk replacement is the better option.....but, I am not your doctor.

Lumbar fusion surgery eliminates motion between vertebrae by fusing together two vertebrae so that they heal into a single, solid bone. ... Fusion is different than disc replacement in that the results of the surgery may vary. Disc replacement has a higher success rate for reduced lower back pain and increased mobility.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2019, 10:32:57 AM »
I had a spinal fusion (L4 & L5) last July when I was 51. I had been dealing with lower back issues for around 15 years and it was getting progressively worse. Herniated discs plus some other shit going on. Smartest thing I ever did because I am feeling great but have been smart about not doing anything that would fuck it up again. Squats and deadlifts are a thing of the past and I keep it light and little things like putting my feet up flat for bench press keeps from arching my back. And a lot of seated cardio for back support.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2019, 10:51:48 AM »
What does your doctor say? It seems to me that every case is different. It might not be a great idea to act on someone else's experience.

Based on the results of a moment of Internet search, I'd think disk replacement is the better option.....but, I am not your doctor.

Lumbar fusion surgery eliminates motion between vertebrae by fusing together two vertebrae so that they heal into a single, solid bone. ... Fusion is different than disc replacement in that the results of the surgery may vary. Disc replacement has a higher success rate for reduced lower back pain and increased mobility.

Thank god you’re not his doctor or you’d have him bent over with your fist a foot up his arse and wouldn’t have the decency to wear a glove

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2019, 11:38:16 AM »
Mine are degenerating and surgery's in my future. One mess at a time though, after this CVD issue (stent, etc) is taken care of...

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 12:01:48 PM »
Thank god you’re not his doctor or you’d have him bent over with your fist a foot up his arse and wouldn’t have the decency to wear a glove

Thank goodness you are a complete idiot who is so obsessed with me that you have unending time to waste inventing and posting your ridiculous and irrelevant fantasies on Getbig. As if anyone cares.  ;D ;D ;D

P.S. You seem to know a lot about fist-fucking....why is that?

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 12:02:36 PM »
Thank goodness you are a complete idiot who is so obsessed with me that you have unending time to waste inventing and posting your ridiculous and irrelevant fantasies on Getbig. As if anyone cares.  ;D ;D ;D

P.S. You seem to know a lot about fist-fucking....why is that?

Instead of "why is that?" you say "WHAT YOU?"
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 02:47:42 PM »
Have you exhausted all non surgical options?

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2019, 02:54:15 PM »
No but I sure feel like I could use a few replaced.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2019, 03:59:58 PM »
Mine are degenerating and surgery's in my future. One mess at a time though, after this CVD issue (stent, etc) is taken care of...

Holy crap! When did this all come about?

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2019, 05:59:41 PM »
Have you exhausted all non surgical options?

I’m not sure about all, but he been in and out of PT for five years and have had a few injections, one of which lead to some pretty serious complications that have made it worse. Hopefully it’s just a bad stretch here and it will get a bit better. I will say, I’m wondering if it’s the chiropractor I have been seeing the last month or so that’s made it worse. I’ve also been doing dry needling twice a week the last two weeks as well. Tingling in both lower extremities with pain in the low back. I don’t do any narcotic pain management either, though there are times I wish I did, which is exactly why I’m glad I don’t!

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2019, 06:30:30 PM »
Good luck Irongrip and Powerlift66........my back is a mess and I can only begin to imagine how you guys must feel.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2019, 06:33:19 PM »
Chiropractic has no basis in science.

Some loon made it all up many years ago.


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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2019, 06:43:50 PM »
My wife is facing having three disks replaced in her neck. The neurosurgeon showed us the MRI clearly showing the nerves are compressed on one side. My daughters are in the health field and said the results vary according to the doctor's skill. Some have bad result after bad result. It also helps to find one that does it on a regular basis. If the guy is replacing disks 6 times a week he should be very experienced and hopefully up to date with the newest procedures and appliances. Especially in the neck where it's major surgery. They go in from the front of the neck moving your esophagus and trachea to access the spine. Due to arthritis and disks that are compressed it can cause the nerves in the neck to wreck havoc. The pain can be excruciating. The pain is actually taking place in the brain but because of the nerves it's felt in the upper back, arms and hand.

Sometimes I think it a better course of action as we age is to stop doing things like the squat. Many can do it with no repercussions but some will get compressed disks as they age causing major problems. I won't even mention the hip joint. You can work the legs really hard with stuff like dumbbell squats, jumps, free hand squats, kick back machines, leg press and other means.  

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2019, 06:58:02 PM »
No but I sure feel like I could use a few replaced.

Dude - it’s a good thing that I don’t actually NEED everything replaced that FEELS like it.

I’d be a robot in no time!  ;D

I remember hearing the “old farts” telling me how I would regret all the heavy weights and how big I would get.

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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2019, 07:14:29 PM »
Dude - it’s a good thing that I don’t actually NEED everything replaced that FEELS like it.

I’d be a robot in no time!  ;D

I remember hearing the “old farts” telling me how I would regret all the heavy weights and how big I would get.
YUP,I never listened to anyone n I`m paying for it to a degree anyway.

I`m a lot better off than a lot of guys  I know though so I guess that`s some consolation.

It could always be worse.

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2019, 07:16:19 PM »
My wife is facing having three disks replaced in her neck. The neurosurgeon showed us the MRI clearly showing the nerves are compressed on one side. My daughters are in the health field and said the results vary according to the doctor's skill. Some have bad result after bad result. It also helps to find one that does it on a regular basis. If the guy is replacing disks 6 times a week he should be very experienced and hopefully up to date with the newest procedures and appliances. Especially in the neck where it's major surgery. They go in from the front of the neck moving your esophagus and trachea to access the spine. Due to arthritis and disks that are compressed it can cause the nerves in the neck to wreck havoc. The pain can be excruciating. The pain is actually taking place in the brain but because of the nerves it's felt in the upper back, arms and hand.

Sometimes I think it a better course of action as we age is to stop doing things like the squat. Many can do it with no repercussions but some will get compressed disks as they age causing major problems. I won't even mention the hip joint. You can work the legs really hard with stuff like dumbbell squats, jumps, free hand squats, kick back machines, leg press and other means.   
Sorry to hear it Rich.....I hope your wife recovers as best as can be expected.............bet ter in fact.

All the best!!

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2019, 07:44:51 PM »
Rule of thumb I always heard was always avoid surgery unless you have to crawl into the doctor's office.

You can degenerate and manage pain a long time but when they start removing things that were originally there you can't go back.

Then again, I detest doctors.


Chiropractor is something they made up for hypochondriacs to do between doctor appointments.   ;D

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2019, 12:05:41 AM »
My wife is facing having three disks replaced in her neck. The neurosurgeon showed us the MRI clearly showing the nerves are compressed on one side. My daughters are in the health field and said the results vary according to the doctor's skill. Some have bad result after bad result. It also helps to find one that does it on a regular basis. If the guy is replacing disks 6 times a week he should be very experienced and hopefully up to date with the newest procedures and appliances. Especially in the neck where it's major surgery. They go in from the front of the neck moving your esophagus and trachea to access the spine. Due to arthritis and disks that are compressed it can cause the nerves in the neck to wreck havoc. The pain can be excruciating. The pain is actually taking place in the brain but because of the nerves it's felt in the upper back, arms and hand.

Sometimes I think it a better course of action as we age is to stop doing things like the squat. Many can do it with no repercussions but some will get compressed disks as they age causing major problems. I won't even mention the hip joint. You can work the legs really hard with stuff like dumbbell squats, jumps, free hand squats, kick back machines, leg press and other means.  

Was there any injury which caused the damage?

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2019, 12:24:37 AM »
Some chiropractors are scammers, quacks and charlatans, just like some MDs and DOs who don't know what they are doing. What I find interesting is that my medical insurance as of January 2020 will cover not only chiropractic and therapeutic massage, but also acupuncture. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2019, 12:43:56 AM »
Some chiropractors are scammers, quacks and charlatans, just like some MDs and DOs who don't know what they are doing. What I find interesting is that my medical insurance as of January 2020 will cover not only chiropractic and therapeutic massage, but also acupuncture

Acupuncture does work.

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2019, 01:02:27 AM »
Acupuncture does work.

Good, because I think I will try it once it is covered. I also plan to take advantage of therapeutic massage. Rather than pay $40 for a pedicure, I can take advantage of using the podiatrist to trim my toenails for free once every two months. Just got the bill for having my teeth cleaned, I owe $O.

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2019, 03:32:28 AM »
My wife is facing having three disks replaced in her neck. The neurosurgeon showed us the MRI clearly showing the nerves are compressed on one side. My daughters are in the health field and said the results vary according to the doctor's skill. Some have bad result after bad result. It also helps to find one that does it on a regular basis. If the guy is replacing disks 6 times a week he should be very experienced and hopefully up to date with the newest procedures and appliances. Especially in the neck where it's major surgery. They go in from the front of the neck moving your esophagus and trachea to access the spine. Due to arthritis and disks that are compressed it can cause the nerves in the neck to wreck havoc. The pain can be excruciating. The pain is actually taking place in the brain but because of the nerves it's felt in the upper back, arms and hand.

Sometimes I think it a better course of action as we age is to stop doing things like the squat. Many can do it with no repercussions but some will get compressed disks as they age causing major problems. I won't even mention the hip joint. You can work the legs really hard with stuff like dumbbell squats, jumps, free hand squats, kick back machines, leg press and other means.  

I have been through this, I had disc replacement 10 years ago now, i waited too long and got atrophy all down my left side, I have replacement at c4,5, c5,6 and C7,8.All titanium.


Procedure done the way you describe I did get 80% muscle back but it never fully recovered same as jay, Ronnie etc once the nerves been compromised it never fully recovers. My chiro missed it, kept trying to rub out the spasms related to the nerve compression that was referring down the associated muscular pathways.
Will never forget the pain, never did any opiate pain or oxy, pre or post, just seeing the zombies waiting for surgery scared the hell out of me.
Best thing I ever done getting it done. Was never the same, never trained heavy again, and could never get as big again as upper body never grew proportionately due to the nerve problem, but you can stay fairly symetrical smaller which suited me, my heavy lifting, contest days were gone and I had a family and business commitments.
Its worth doing you will have far less issues than fusion.

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2019, 04:16:32 AM »
Check with your doctor if ozone therapy or optic fiber? Therapy can help you instead. Much more less invasive. Did it in two of mine cervical disc and it worked wonders. A bit expensive thoug.

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2019, 04:30:38 AM »
WebMD article about spine surgery and treatments: https://www.webmd.com/back-pain/back-surgery-types#1

Spine Surgery Overview: https://www.spineuniverse.com/treatments/surgery