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The "Whistleblower"
« on: October 31, 2019, 05:09:22 PM »
Report: 'Whistleblower' Identified as CIA Analyst Eric Ciaramella
KRISTINA WONG 31 Oct 2019

RealClearInvestigations on Wednesday published the name of the person they believe is most likely the “whistleblower” against President Trump: Eric Ciaramella, an analyst at the Central Intelligence Agency.

The outlet reported that Ciaramella’s name has been raised privately in impeachment depositions, as well as at least one open hearing held by a House committee not involved in the impeachment inquiry.

RealClearInvestigations also reported that House Democrats this week blocked Republicans from asking questions about Ciaramella and “intend to redact his name from all deposition transcripts.”

The outlet said:

RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official’s status as a ‘whistleblower’ is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has ‘some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate’ — as the Intelligence Community Inspector General phrased it circumspectly in originally fielding his complaint.

It said Ciaramella is 33-years-old, a registered Democrat who began working at the White House during the Obama administration and previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan.

Ciaramella left the Trump administration’s National Security Council in mid-2017 over concerns about negative leaks to the media and then returned to the CIA, the outlet reported.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” a former NSC official told RealClearInvestigiations .

The outlet also reported that Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), including former NSC colleagues who now work for Schiff.

Ciaramella also worked with a Democratic National Committee operative, Alexandra Chalupa, who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, and he invited her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues told RealClearInvestigations.

“He knows her. He had her in the White House,” one former co-worker told the outlet.

A handful of former colleagues have compiled a roughly 40-page research dossier on Ciaramella, which has been circulating on Capitol Hill, the outlet reported.

“Everyone knows who he is. CNN knows. The Washington Post knows. The New York Times knows. Congress knows. The White House knows. Even the president knows who he is,” Fred Fleitz, former CIA analyst and NSC chief of staff, told RealClearInvestigations.

“They’re hiding him,” he added. “They’re hiding him because of his political bias.”

Ciaramella is reportedly a CIA officer specializing in Russia and Ukraine who was detailed over to the National Security Council in the summer of 2015, working under former Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice. He also reportedly worked closely with Biden.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/30/realclear-investigations-suggests-whistleblower-likely-33-year-old-cia-analyst-eric-ciaramella/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2019, 05:10:49 PM »
How 'Whistleblower' May Be Outed: Ties to Biden, Brennan, Schiff's Staff, Etc.
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
October 30, 2019

Eric Ciaramella as a class of 2004 Connecticut prep student: He later moved on to Yale and the White House. Now he could be at the center of an impeachment storm.
Chase Collegiate School, Waterbury, Conn./The Magpie
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2019, 05:17:52 PM »
Personally, I do not care if he is the whistleblower or not. What I don't agree with is all this speculation as if it is a foregone conclusion. You all cry foul when someone is tried in the media and then you jump on something like this? Why? Do you want to seem like a soothsayer who knew what was up before anyone else did? Guess the rules are different for different people, huh?

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2019, 05:19:14 PM »
Personally, I do not care if he is the whistleblower or not. What I don't agree with is all this speculation as if it is a foregone conclusion. You all cry foul when someone is tried in the media and then you jump on something like this? Why? Do you want to seem like a soothsayer who knew what was up before anyone else did? Guess the rules are different for different people, huh?

What you are all worked up about?  Some of us believe in transparency.  And fairness.  And motives.  And context.

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2019, 05:55:16 PM »
Personally, I do not care if he is the whistleblower or not. What I don't agree with is all this speculation as if it is a foregone conclusion. You all cry foul when someone is tried in the media and then you jump on something like this? Why? Do you want to seem like a soothsayer who knew what was up before anyone else did? Guess the rules are different for different people, huh?

LOL, this guy is trying to bring down the President of the United States. Do you really think he was going to stay anonymous forever?

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 06:24:41 PM »
Alleged whistleblower Eric Ciaramella was Biden guest at State Department banquet
by Daniel Chaitin & Jerry Dunleavy
November 07, 2019

Eric Ciaramella, the alleged Ukraine whistleblower, was a guest of Vice President Joe Biden at a glitzy lunch in October 2016 to honor the prime minister of Italy.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-was-biden-guest-at-state-department-banquet?fbclid=IwAR28YvLPxreNjvFLcKkM3684wqTPcNn9EFshO0kM8XsDEizMzXNjtyC9epI

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 06:27:08 PM »
This guy's lawyer was calling for a coup in 2017. I'm sure it's all okay.


Also...

https://noqreport.com/2019/11/07/eric-ciaramellas-name-appears-testimony-transcript-released-adam-schiff/

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2019, 06:28:22 PM »
Please stop calling this piece of shit a whistleblower, he is not a whistleblower under the legal definition.


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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 06:31:41 PM »

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 06:31:53 PM »
Two whistleblowers:

One whose identity privacy is fiercely defended by Democrats, despite all evidence pointing to his ties to the prior administration, his political bias, and his lawyer's questionable statements.

The other exposed ABC having the goods on a pedophile ring and not running the story years ago.  He moved to CBS, where ABC gave up his identity, and he was fired.  Countless sexual assaults could have been prevented had ABC run the story.   Nobody gives a shit about him.
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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2019, 06:32:15 PM »
Please stop calling this piece of shit a whistleblower, he is not a whistleblower under the legal definition.



That's why I put quotation marks in the thread title.

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 06:37:26 PM »
That's why I put quotation marks in the thread title.

Thank you Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2019, 06:37:56 PM »
Thank you Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

Thank you.   :)

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 08:52:06 AM »
Facebook Removes News Reporting, Mention of Alleged ‘Whistleblower’s’ Identity
ALLUM BOKHARI8 Nov 2019

Facebook is removing any mention of the potential whistleblower’s name and is cracking down against Facebook publishers that mention any allegation of the potential whistleblower’s name, claiming they are violating Facebook’s Community Standards and Policies.

For example, on Wednesday evening, Facebook removed Breitbart posts reporting on the fact other respected news outlets have reported the identity of the alleged whistleblower is Eric Ciaramella. Any Facebook user who attempts to click on that article on Facebook is now given a message that says, “this content isn’t available at the moment.”

To be clear, Breitbart did not “out” the alleged whistleblower but did provide additional relevant reporting about him; he is, after all, a public figure, having served on the National Security Council. Moreover, his name has been used in the Mueller report (p283) and Ambassador Bill Taylor’s testimony.

Administrators of Breitbart News’ Facebook page began receiving notifications on Wednesday evening stating that Breitbart’s page is “at risk of being unpublished” but were not given any details as to why, or even which posts were allegedly at issue.

Yesterday afternoon, however, in response to questions from Breitbart, a Facebook spokesman issued the following statement:

Any mention of the potential whistleblower’s name violates our coordinating harm policy, which prohibits content “outing of witness, informant, or activist.” We are removing any and all mentions of the potential whistleblower’s name and will revisit this decision should their name be widely published in the media or used by public figures in debate.

Breitbart News is currently the 68th-most visited site in the United States according to Alexa, and the 13th most-engaged Facebook publisher in the world according to NewsWhip.

Multiple other publishers have named the alleged whistleblower or reported on outlets naming him, including Heavy.com, the Washington Examiner, The Federalist, and the Western Journal. Saagar Enjeti, Chief Washington Correspondent for The Hill, also tweeted the alleged whistleblower’s name.

Radio hosts Mark Levin and Glenn Beck, Students for Trump co-chair Ryan Fournier, former Deputy Assistant to the President Sebastian Gorka, bestselling author Dinesh D’Souza, One America News host Jack Posobiec, and TownHall.com senior columnist Kurt Schlichter are among the other public figures and major media personalities who have also named the alleged whistleblower.
 
It isn’t only conservatives reporting on Ciaramella. New York Magazine and HuffPost contributor Yashar Ali identified Ciaramella as the alleged whistleblower in a since-deleted tweet. Ali claimed to have confirmed the identity with three sources. Facebook’s requirement to revise its policy on Ciaramella appears to already have been met.

Other publishers that have named the alleged whistleblower on Facebook have reported that their posts have been taken down as well.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/11/08/facebook-removes-any-news-reporting-on-or-even-mention-of-who-the-whistleblower-is-alleged-to-be/

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2019, 09:16:53 AM »
His name has been on the internet for weeks.

Even in a Drudge article headline.

Then Trump Jr. tweet the article.

And gets accused of "outing" the whistleblower, even though it was.....out there.

Democrats are fucking imbeciles.
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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2019, 09:27:46 AM »
As her father demands whistleblower's identity, Ivanka Trump says it's "not particularly relevant"

Ivanka Trump expressed some disagreement with her father on one aspect of the impeachment inquiry during an interview with the Associated Press published on Friday morning.


The First Daughter and top White House adviser disagreed with her father — and boss — about the importance of naming the whistleblower who complained about his July 25 call with the Ukrainian president. Ivanka Trump said that the whistleblower's identity is "not particularly relevant" to the inquiry.

"The whistleblower shouldn't be a substantive part of the conversation," she said. "This is a third party who was not privy to the call and did not have firsthand information. That is what was the catalyst for all of this discussion. But to me, it's not particularly relevant aside from what the motivation behind all of this was."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistleblower-identity-not-particularly-relevant-says-ivanka-trump-in-a-break-from-her-father/

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2019, 09:33:59 AM »
It's idiotic that Trumptards think the name of the whistleblower matters

It doesn't change the facts of what Trump did (not only Trump but all his stooges like Sondland and Guiliani, Mulvaney)

We really don't need anything more than the notes from the phone call that Trumptard himself released (apparently against the advise of many people the White House)

We also have a long list of witnesses....many of whom are Trump appointee's....who have all said the same thing which is that Trump was holding up Congressionally mandated funds in order to extort a foreign leader to produce dirt on his political opponent.  

The whistleblower could have been Hillary Clinton and it would make ZERO DIFFERENCE


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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2019, 10:54:37 AM »
His protection and annonymity  is based on a 30 yr old federal law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act


a law that has always had bi-partisan support and still does with most Republican senators


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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2019, 11:27:03 AM »
It's idiotic that Trumptards think the name of the whistleblower matters

It doesn't change the facts of what Trump did (not only Trump but all his stooges like Sondland and Guiliani, Mulvaney)

We really don't need anything more than the notes from the phone call that Trumptard himself released (apparently against the advise of many people the White House)

We also have a long list of witnesses....many of whom are Trump appointee's....who have all said the same thing which is that Trump was holding up Congressionally mandated funds in order to extort a foreign leader to produce dirt on his political opponent.  

The whistleblower could have been Hillary Clinton and it would make ZERO DIFFERENCE



With Trump's base it is simply a matter of them echoing their leader who wants the whistleblower's identity revealed. When it comes to Trump and his base following the law isn't necessary.

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2019, 12:21:23 PM »
Obama’s Ukraine ambassador lied under oath in impeachment inquiry, according to new email evidence
milnenews.com ^ | November 8, 2019 | MilneNews
Posted on 11/8/2019, 1:21:39 PM by ransomnote

According to new email evidence, it appears as though Obama’s Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, perjured herself under oath during her closed-door testimony in House Democrats’ secret impeachment inquiry.

Marie Yovanovitch – appointed U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine by former President Barack Obama – allegedly made false statements under oath during her October 11 closed-door testimony in House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry.

Fox News’ Tucker Carlson exclusively broke the story saying: “Before the contents of the whistleblower complaint were known publicly, a Democratic congressional staffer contacted the former American ambassador to Ukraine to discuss what the staffer described as ‘quite delicate and time-sensitive questions,’”

“This show has obtained exclusively an email for that Democratic staffer for the House Foreign Affairs Committee sent by private email to the former American ambassador Marie Yovanovitch,” Carlson continued. “Yovanovitch, you know, is a key player in the Democrats’ impeachment probe and was recalled from her post in Ukraine by President Trump in May 2019 following allegations of serious partisanship and political bias.”

The email Tucker Carlson obtained says:

I’m writing to see if you would have time to meet up for a chat — in particular, I’m hoping to discuss some Ukraine-related oversight questions we are exploring. I’d appreciate the change to ground-truth a few pieces of information with you, some of which are quite delicate/time-sensitive and, thus, we want to make sure we get them right.

“That email was sent on August 14, that was two days after the whistleblower complaint was filed and a month before that complaint became public,” Carlson stated. “The whistleblower, however, went to Adam Schiff’s team before filing the complaint.”

MORE AT LINK

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2019, 12:23:59 PM »
What link?



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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2019, 12:30:46 PM »
His protection and annonymity  is based on a 30 yr old federal law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act


No.

You are incorrect.

This piece of shit is not a whistleblower by legal definition and is not afforded anonymity.

You are a liar.

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Re: The "Whistleblower"
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2019, 12:46:21 PM »
His name has been on the internet for weeks.

Even in a Drudge article headline.

Then Trump Jr. tweet the article.

And gets accused of "outing" the whistleblower, even though it was.....out there.

Democrats are fucking imbeciles.

True story.  And we're talking about educated adults in many instances.