Here's why we shouldnt celebrate Thanksgiving

[IRON CROSS]

This X2.  This myth of the noble savage needs to be debunked not promoted.  Natives were savages who raped, killed and tortured enemies from other tribes just for being from another tribe.  They would sometimes travel over 100 miles just to attack another people who weren't using their land for anything like hunting or harvesting.  Natives were also the first to attack white settlers wherever they settled.  They didn't believe in land ownership but complain to this day their land was stolen.

'Megafuna' was there before them  

So Megafauna land was stolen by them  

[BBSSchlemiel]

No.

Where do you live?

[SF1900]

Where do you live?

Croatia.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Croatia.

Hahahaha! One to talk about a people’s treatment of others! 😂😂😂

[Andy Griffin]

https://www.alternet.org/2019/11/heres-why-we-shouldnt-celebrate-thanksgiving/

After years of being constantly annoyed and often angry about the historical denial built into Thanksgiving Day, I published an essay in November 2005 suggesting we replace the feasting with fasting and create a National Day of Atonement to acknowledge the genocide of indigenous people that is central to the creation of the United States.

I expected criticism from right-wing and centrist people, given their common commitment to this country’s distorted self-image that supports the triumphalist/supremacist notions about the United States so common in conventional politics, and I got plenty of such critique. But I was surprised by the resistance from liberals, including a considerable number of my friends.

The most common argument went something like this: OK, it’s true that the Thanksgiving Day mythology is rooted in a fraudulent story — about the European invaders coming in peace to the “New World,” eager to cooperate with indigenous people — which conveniently ignores the reality of European barbarism in the conquest of the continent. But we can reject the culture’s self-congratulatory attempts to rewrite history, I have been told, and come together on Thanksgiving to celebrate the love and connections among family and friends.

The argument that we can ignore the collective cultural definition of Thanksgiving and create our own meaning in private has always struck me as odd. This commitment to Thanksgiving puts these left/radical critics in the position of internalizing one of the central messages promoted by the ideologues of capitalism — that individual behavior in private is more important than collective action in public. The claim that through private action we can create our own reality is one of the key tenets of a predatory corporate capitalism that naturalizes unjust hierarchy, a part of the overall project of discouraging political struggle and encouraging us to retreat into a private realm where life is defined by consumption.

So this November, rather than mount another attack on the national mythology around Thanksgiving — a mythology that amounts to a kind of holocaust denial, and which has been critiqued for many years by many people — I want to explore why so many who understand and accept this critique still celebrate Thanksgiving, and why rejecting such celebrations sparks such controversy.

Wiritten by a self-loathing c0ck gobbler.

[OneMoreRep]

We know well enough that our standing as a great country was founded on a less than stellar foundation of inconvenient truths.

But if we dwell too much on how history is rewritten and how brainwashed we are as a society in buying into any capitalistic/imperialistic agenda that has furthered the great American cause, we will become bitter. A lot of musicians do this and always swear that if policies don't change or that if the wrong handler takes the white house they will flee to another country (Africa is commonly thrown in as an option, as is Canada). Strangely enough, no one ever truly leaves. Because reality is that we love this place, regardless of how savage our history is. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, regardless of country or race, all mankind started as savages.

Tomorrow, another piece will be written, amongst the many already circulating, noting that independence day should not be celebrated or exalted as much as it is, as it didn't pertain to blacks, women or poor white indentured servants.

"1"

[Irongrip400]

We know well enough that our standing as a great country was founded on a less than stellar foundation of inconvenient truths.

But if we dwell too much on how history is rewritten and how brainwashed we are as a society in buying into any capitalistic/imperialistic agenda that has furthered the great American cause, we will become bitter. A lot of musicians do this and always swear that if policies don't change or that if the wrong handler takes the white house they will flee to another country (Africa is commonly thrown in as an option, as is Canada). Strangely enough, no one ever truly leaves. Because reality is that we love this place, regardless of how savage our history is. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, regardless of country or race, all mankind started as savages.

Tomorrow, another piece will be written, amongst the many already circulating, noting that independence day should not be celebrated or exalted as much as it is, as it didn't pertain to blacks, women or poor white indentured servants.

"1"

What the fuck are you doing here with this well thought out, level headed shit? This is Getbig bro!

[SF1900]

We know well enough that our standing as a great country was founded on a less than stellar foundation of inconvenient truths.

But if we dwell too much on how history is rewritten and how brainwashed we are as a society in buying into any capitalistic/imperialistic agenda that has furthered the great American cause, we will become bitter. A lot of musicians do this and always swear that if policies don't change or that if the wrong handler takes the white house they will flee to another country (Africa is commonly thrown in as an option, as is Canada). Strangely enough, no one ever truly leaves. Because reality is that we love this place, regardless of how savage our history is. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, regardless of country or race, all mankind started as savages.

Tomorrow, another piece will be written, amongst the many already circulating, noting that independence day should not be celebrated or exalted as much as it is, as it didn't pertain to blacks, women or poor white indentured servants.

"1"

When Trump was elected president, I moved to Croatia.

[oldtimer1]

Yes, Europeans should have left America alone. It was sure to prosper with the Indians if left alone. It's not like they were involved in brutal wars with other tribes or used slavery. This is the greatest country on earth. One that people from all over the world want to come to. Even liberals that hate this country refuse to leave because they know no other country compares.

[BBSSchlemiel]

When Trump was elected president, I moved to Croatia.

Why do that when Croatia hasn’t been absolutely kind to others?

[OneMoreRep]

What the fuck are you doing here with this well thought out, level headed shit? This is Getbig bro!

Sometimes I troll hard. Sometimes I put a little thought behind it.

You have to mix it up a little at times. On to my Goodrum thread now.

"1"

[che]

Why do that when Croatia hasn’t been absolutely kind to others?

Oh brother

[Palumboism]

When Trump was elected president, I moved to Croatia.

Are you still an American citizen?

[SF1900]

Are you still an American citizen?

I didnt move to Croatia.

[IRON CROSS]

When Trump was elected president, I moved to Croatia.

The most pro American country in EU  

(& Israels #.1 buddy in Mediterranean )

[IRON CROSS]

I didnt move to Croatia.

Jobs 4 SiFi19oo in Croatia:


a) Military job (massive US base near Zadar)

b) Pro football (soccer) player

c) DJ

d) Nude beach inspector

e) Avocado farmer  (probably this 1)

[Irongrip400]

Sometimes I troll hard. Sometimes I put a little thought behind it.

You have to mix it up a little at times. On to my Goodrum thread now.

"1"

Hahaha. Exactly why I love this site.

[Kwon]

Sometimes I troll hard. Sometimes I put a little thought behind it.

You have to mix it up a little at times. On to my Goodrum thread now.

"1"

That's why we love ye!

[Griffith]

This X2.  This myth of the noble savage needs to be debunked not promoted.  Natives were savages who raped, killed and tortured enemies from other tribes just for being from another tribe.  They would sometimes travel over 100 miles just to attack another people who weren't using their land for anything like hunting or harvesting.  Natives were also the first to attack white settlers wherever they settled.  They didn't believe in land ownership but complain to this day their land was stolen.

You just described 'modern' Africa.

[Desolate]

Funny, when it’s whites it’s called invasion and genocide

When it’s non whites its called immigration

One of the best posts ever.

100% truth.

[Humble Narcissist]

You just described 'modern' Africa.

True.  All of these other races complain about whitey but sure love living in our high tech societies.

[IRON CROSS]

True.  All of these other races complain about whitey but sure love living in our high tech societies.

WHAT, A U telling me that Mercedes is not build in Kongo 

[Humble Narcissist]

WHAT, A U telling me that Mercedes is not build in Kongo 

The Germans stole their technology.

[IroNat]

[IRON CROSS]

The Germans stole their technology.

OMG