Natty or low-dose prohormones?

[jephrius]

[Hypertrophy]

Tom Cruise’s twin is in good shape, haha

[deadz]

Easily done, Natty.

[jephrius]

Easily done, Natty.

What do you suppose he weighs?

[Irongrip400]

The jephrius account looks to have been acquired by some low income homo.

[oldtimer1]

Easily done, Natty.

I wouldn't say it was easily done. If it was all the guys without juice on this board would look like him. Personally if that is Tom Cruise I would bet he is juicing.

[robcguns]

Easily done, Natty.

This

[Humble Narcissist]

I wouldn't say it was easily done. If it was all the guys without juice on this board would look like him. Personally if that is Tom Cruise I would bet he is juicing.

He's probably on GH now but not back then.  Any skinny guy who does pushups and situps can easily achieve that look.

[oldtimer1]

He's probably on GH now but not back then.  Any skinny guy who does pushups and situps can easily achieve that look.

Please put up the picture of you doing push ups and situps easily attaining that look with no steroids.  That appears to be the look of a guy that diets hard, does cardio and lifts. No, it's not a world beater physique but he looks like an athlete. I like to see what real world athletes look like from soccer players, sprinters, Olympic lifters in the lower weight classes, running backs/receivers, wrestlers, MMA, and boxers from their hard training. On this board all would say easily attainable but there is nothing easy about being in shape. Even guys on steroids look like crap once completely off for months no matter how hard they train.

[Primemuscle]

He is a very young, lean underwear model. He shouldn't need to do much beyond some exercise, either weight free or light weight, maybe a little cardio, maintain a reasonably healthy diet, and no ABS. That's about as natural as it gets.

He probably won't look like this forever. His metabolism will slow as he gets older and he will need to make some adjustments if he hope's to retain this look.

[Humble Narcissist]

Please put up the picture of you doing push ups and situps easily attaining that look with no steroids.  That appears to be the look of a guy that diets hard, does cardio and lifts. No, it's not a world beater physique but he looks like an athlete. I like to see what real world athletes look like from soccer players, sprinters, Olympic lifters in the lower weight classes, running backs/receivers, wrestlers, MMA, and boxers from their hard training. On this board all would say easily attainable but there is nothing easy about being in shape. Even guys on steroids look like crap once completely off for months no matter how hard they train.

Just go to Youtube and there are dozens of videos of normal guys completely transforming their physiques in 30, 60, or 90 days doing nothing but pushups.  He was probably in his early 20's when that pic was taken.  Young guys with a fast metabolism can be cut without even exercising at all.  Cruise is in his 50's now and no doubt he needs to diet and workout a little more to avoid getting fat.

[Griffith]

Prohormones are outdated now, SARMs have replaced them.

[Powerlift66]

If someone cant get to that physique natty, time to give it up...

[Humble Narcissist]

Prohormones are outdated now, SARMs have replaced them.

Have they determined the safety of SARMS yet?

[Griffith]

Have they determined the safety of SARMS yet?

Ostarine has been around for decades and the secretagogue MK-677 a similar time and used in clinical trials lasting up to 2 years without any adverse effects.

The advantage of SARM's is that they are basically oral steroids without the side effects or very low chance of side effects. Long term, they seem to be the same as steroids, their mechanism of action is just selective, instead of targeting all tissue.

[Metabolic]

Achievable natty? Yes

Him natty? No

[Humble Narcissist]

Ostarine has been around for decades and the secretagogue MK-677 a similar time and used in clinical trials lasting up to 2 years without any adverse effects.

The advantage of SARM's is that they are basically oral steroids without the side effects or very low chance of side effects. Long term, they seem to be the same as steroids, their mechanism of action is just selective, instead of targeting all tissue.

Have you taken any?  If so, what were the results and how much did you pay for them?

[balzac]

natty - i look way better with 125mg test per week 

[Griffith]

Have you taken any?  If so, what were the results and how much did you pay for them?

MK-677 costs about 30 dollars for a month supply at maximum dose and equals two months supply for more a health and healing dose. It can give the equivalent of 2 IU's or even more of HGH in tablet form and also increases IGF more at higher doses, without injections and need of insulin (except ideally a supplement to reduce sugar levels such as Alpha Lipoic Acid).

Ideally it should be started at lowest dose first and cycled, though taken at almost one year non-stop there were no negative side-effect except some water retention but when coming off those muscle gains are kept.

For instance, usually when travelling, 5 kg's of weight is lost due to hardly training and walking a lot and not following ideal diet. But it's possible for the weight to stay the same without added fat even after a month travelling.

Recovery from gym is much quicker, sleep is deep and wake up re-freshened, skin looks better, energy is higher. Appetite increases though but this subsides as does the worst of the water retention, but with a dose of 5 mg there is hardly any and at 10 mg it is slight. 20 - 25 mg would be a bodybuilding dose to really build more muscle.

One of the main advantages would be healing from injuries, really helps with tendon and joint issues. Also, lower-effort training with lower weight, possibly even gives same results  when training heavier natural, so especially when injured or recovering, can still look decent.

I would not go on non-stop though, always good to give the body a long break after a cycle.

[Coffeed]

All photoshop and pedophilia.

[Humble Narcissist]

MK-677 costs about 30 dollars for a month supply at maximum dose and equals two months supply for more a health and healing dose. It can give the equivalent of 2 IU's or even more of HGH in tablet form and also increases IGF more at higher doses, without injections and need of insulin (except ideally a supplement to reduce sugar levels such as Alpha Lipoic Acid).

Ideally it should be started at lowest dose first and cycled, though taken at almost one year non-stop there were no negative side-effect except some water retention but when coming off those muscle gains are kept.

For instance, usually when travelling, 5 kg's of weight is lost due to hardly training and walking a lot and not following ideal diet. But it's possible for the weight to stay the same without added fat even after a month travelling.

Recovery from gym is much quicker, sleep is deep and wake up re-freshened, skin looks better, energy is higher. Appetite increases though but this subsides as does the worst of the water retention, but with a dose of 5 mg there is hardly any and at 10 mg it is slight. 20 - 25 mg would be a bodybuilding dose to really build more muscle.

One of the main advantages would be healing from injuries, really helps with tendon and joint issues. Also, lower-effort training with lower weight, possibly even gives same results  when training heavier natural, so especially when injured or recovering, can still look decent.

I would not go on non-stop though, always good to give the body a long break after a cycle.

I may try some in the future.

[Powerlift66]

SARM's have sides (shutdown, lipids, etc) but estrogen related sides are basically non-existant. (gyno, hair-loss, prostate, etc).
Supposedly.

[Griffith]

SARM's have sides (shutdown, lipids, etc) but estrogen related sides are basically non-existant. (gyno, hair-loss, prostate, etc).
Supposedly.

SARM's like Ostarine, LGD and RAD-140 will cause suppression depending on dosage but not complete shutdown.

And yes, chances of gyno are very low. And hairloss, excess body hair and acne basically non-existent.

[J. Richards]

also heard MK677 may cause some lower extremity swelling and increased BP... but only from reading study results and gym rat blogs... has to be a Getbigger that's used it... for a real first-hand review.... sad that teens and twenty-somethings are using ... no need,..

[Irongrip400]

SARM's have sides (shutdown, lipids, etc) but estrogen related sides are basically non-existant. (gyno, hair-loss, prostate, etc).
Supposedly.

What’s a sarm?