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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2019, 09:52:33 AM »
Question:  why didn't Mueller and his team uncover any of this FISA abuse? 

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2019, 11:45:46 AM »
Another reason for home schooling.

Have you set this up for your kids yet? If so, how is it going?

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2019, 03:34:42 PM »
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"Adam Schiff says FBI committed 'serious abuses' of FISA, but won't admit his own wrongdoing"


Look at this turd squirm and deflect.

This is the one guy above anyone else that epitomizes the ability to blatantly lie with no regard and no care for any sort of repercussion. It is literally mind-boggling how easily he does it and none of these shows call him out on it in when he appears on them. 

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2019, 03:38:06 PM »
This is the one guy above anyone else that epitomizes the ability to blatantly lie with no regard and no care for any sort of repercussion. It is literally mind-boggling how easily he does it and none of these shows call him out on it in when he appears on them.  

I recall during the hearing when he said he didn’t know or have contact with the whistleblower. At that point, his credibility was obviously shot and only the TDS afflicted could take the hearing seriously.

It was pretty funny when Jim Jordan called him out on it and pointed out that no one believed him.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2019, 05:19:16 PM »
Question:  why didn't Mueller and his team uncover any of this FISA abuse? 
Because they didn't want to.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2019, 06:47:12 PM »
Because they didn't want to.

Yeah.  They didn't even mention the dossier in their report. 

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2019, 07:02:57 PM »
Yeah.  They didn't even mention the dossier in their report. 
That just shows how rigged it is against Trump.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2019, 02:11:12 PM »
That just shows how rigged it is against Trump.

Unable to accept the fact that he won and will likely win again. 

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2019, 02:14:56 PM »
Uh oh . . . .

FISA court slams FBI over surveillance applications, in rare public order
By Andrew O'Reilly, Bill Mears | Fox News

In a rare public order Tuesday, the chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court [FISC] strongly criticized the FBI over its surveillance-application process, giving the bureau until Jan. 10 to come up with solutions, in the wake of findings from Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz.

The order, from the court's presiding judge Rosemary M. Collyer, came just a week after the release of Horowitz's withering report about the wiretapping of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as part of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

"The FBI's handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of Inspector General] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above," Collyer wrote in her four-page order. "The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

Horowitz said he did not find significant evidence that FBI agents were involved in a political conspiracy to undermine Trump's candidacy in 2016. However, the report did find numerous errors and inaccuracies used by FBI agents to obtain permission to monitor Page's phone calls and emails.

While Collyer's order did not specify exactly what reforms the FBI needed to implement to its policies for obtaining permission to wiretap people under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, the order did say that the FISA court will weigh in on whether the reforms are deemed sufficient.

"The [FISA court] expects the government to provide complete and accurate information in every filing with the court," Collyer wrote. "Without it, the [FISA court] cannot properly ensure that the government conducts electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes only when there is a sufficient factual basis."

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The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court has dealt with some of the most sensitive matters of national security: terror threats and espionage. Its work, for the most part, cannot be examined by the American public, by order of Congress and the president. Its work has been mostly secret, its structure largely one-sided.

"The most unusual thing is that there is a body of law that the court has created, but as a practitioner that is part of that law, we have between zero and some very limited knowledge of what that law is," Michael Sussmann, a former Justice Department prosecutor and current private attorney in the consumer and computer-privacy field, told Fox News. "But, it's the fact that there is a secret law and a secret body of law that makes it the most vexing."

Tuesday's order from the court came amid a Republican-led push to reform FISA.

Reps. Chris Stewart, R-Utah, and Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, last week introduced the FISA Improvements Act in a bid to "stop these abuses" and effectively amend FISA by adding requirements on the FBI, the DOJ and on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which would also give Congress "critical new insight to perform oversight of the FISA powers."

"The deceptive actions of a few high-ranking officials within the FBI and the Department of Justice have eroded public trust in our federal institutions," Stewart stated. "They flattened internal guardrails, deceived the FISA court, and irreparably damaged the reputation of an innocent American" - a reference to Page.

The GOP bill would mandate that amicus curiae – an impartial court advisor – be assigned to all cases where a U.S. person is involved. It also would ensure that the DOJ disclose "any usage of unverified information in the application," and include a provision in which any FISA extensions are heard or denied by the same judge which "ensures that the government is not able to obfuscate details of an expiring order's newly gathered evidence to support renewal."

The House voted earlier this year against a bipartisan amendment to FISA, proposed by Michigan Rep. Justin Amash -- then a Republican -- and Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., which would have halted the 2020 funding for FISA's Section 702, which was authorized in 2008 as a means to monitor communications by foreign nationals outside the U.S. Amash later left the Republican Party to become an independent.

Horowitz's report was hardly the first time the court has come under scrutiny. In 2013, self-confessed National Security Agency [NSA] leaker Edward Snowden revealed a secret FISC order approving government collection of mass amounts of so-called metadata from telecom giant Verizon and leading Internet companies, including Microsoft, Apple, Google, Yahoo and Facebook.

The revelations triggered debate about national security and privacy interests, and about the secretive legal process that set government surveillance in motion. Approvals would come from a rotating panel of federal judges at the FISC, deciding whether to grant certain types of government requests -- wiretapping, data analysis and other monitoring for "foreign intelligence purposes" of suspected terrorists and spies operating in the United States.

The Snowden revelations confirmed the scope of the NSA's efforts had greatly expanded -- along with the court's original mission. No longer were FISC judges approving individual surveillance requests. Now, in essence, they were reinterpreting the Constitution, expanding the limits of privacy and due process, critics said.

"The laws have been secretly interpreted in a way that now allows the government to monitor the communications of all of us-- a dragnet of surveillance," said David Sobel, a senior counsel at the Electronic Freedom Foundation. "Based on the statistics we have, the court appears to be a rubber stamp but part of the problem is because this process is secret, and because the public can't see what the court is doing or read the opinions, it is hard to assess the extent the court is asking tough questions and holding the govt.'s feet to the fire."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-over-surveillance-applications-in-rare-public-order

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2019, 03:06:59 PM »


Political activist and actress, Jean Seberg was investigated/harrassed by the FBI under the direction of J. Edgar Hoover in what was coined the COINTELPRO project. She may have committed suicide at age 40 as a result of the smear campaign the FBI launched against her.



Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, a naturalized United States citizen was found guilty and sentenced to 30 years in prison after a failed attempt to blow-up Pioneer Square during the annual Christmas tree lighting.

The bomb, which was in a van parked off Pioneer Courthouse Square, was a fake — planted by F.B.I. agents as part of the elaborate sting — but “the threat was very real,” Arthur Balizan, the F.B.I.’s special agent in charge in Oregon, said in a statement released by the Department of Justice. An estimated 10,000 people were at the ceremony on Friday night, the Portland police said.



Two days after King delivered his famous “I Have a Dream” speech at the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, William Sullivan, the FBI’s director of intelligence, famously responded by writing, “We must mark him now, if we have not done so before, as the most dangerous Negro of the future in this Nation from the standpoint of communism, the Negro and national security.”



The FBI proposed that "Lennon should be arrested, if at all possible, on possession of narcotics charges" - I'm quoting now from one of the documents "which would make him more immediately deportable." And these instructions to local police officials include a kind of a wanted poster. A picture of Lennon, you know, height, weight, eye color and so on.



In 1991, the FBI conducted a background check on Jobs when he was considered for an appointment on president George H.W. Bush’s Export Council. According to the file, “several individuals questions Jobs’ honesty, stating that [he] will twist the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals.” In the report, the Apple CEO, who died in 2011, admitted to experimenting with LSD in his teens, calling his use “a positive life changing experience.”



Denver—or should we say Deutschendorf, the singer’s real last name—wracked up a 33-page FBI file from 1977 to 1990. Though no major crimes were named, the Bureau did note Denver’s appearance at a 1971 anti-war rally and his regular drug use. The files also contain information about 17 death threats received that the singer, famous for hits such as “Take Me Home Country Road,” and “Sunshine on My Shoulder,” received from a German-speaking woman in 1979.



Much of Monroe’s file concerns not the blonde bombshell herself, but Arthur Miller, her husband from 1956 to 1961. The FBI suspected Miller of having communist leanings and kept close tabs on his involvement with Marxist and Communist groups. Monroe’s file also describes a few theories about her 1962 death, including an excerpt from Norman Mailer’s biography of Monroe that implicates none other than the FBI and CIA.


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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2019, 03:33:56 PM »


I don't concern myself with shit that happened in 2008, which is ancient history in the political world.
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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2019, 03:39:12 PM »

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2019, 03:50:40 PM »



I did say that. And this post might make it look like I am concerned about the FBI's past tactics. I am not. What's done, is done. Being interested in something is not the same as being concerned about it. If you think about it, most if not all of the people exampled in that post are no longer alive.

Here's what sparked this research into FBI past practices. I read an article this morning about Kristen Stewart being in a movie where she acts the part of Jean Seberg. Although I vaguely remember Jean Seberg, I had no idea she was targeted by the FBI. In the light of FISA Abuse, I thought it would be interesting to see who else was targeted by the FBI over the years. It occured to me some Getbiggers, might also find this interesting in light of current accusations against the FBI.

Little did I know someone, like you, would miss the point. Maybe I expect more intelligent responses from some other Getbiggers...again, like you. Apparently, in your case, I was mistaken.



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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2019, 04:23:58 PM »

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2019, 07:12:29 PM »
Is U.S. Attorney Durham coming for ex-CIA Chief Brennan?
DECEMBER 19, 2019 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON

There’s a new report from the New York Times that U.S Attorney John Durham is seeking to obtain emails and other communications belonging to ex-CIA Director John Brennan as part of the criminal investigation into the intelligence community’s actions in the Trump-Russia probe.

A caution: The New York Times cites anonymous sources (and has proven incorrect many times before on this topic.)

But many analysts believe it’s entirely possible that Durham’s investigation is leading him to examine the actions of the controversial former intel chief. After leaving the Obama administration, Brennan became a frequent Trump attacker, spreading information and innuendo about the president– some of it proven sorely wrong.

Brennan and former Direction of National Intelligence James Clapper along with ex-FBI Director James Comey all went public with frequent anti-Trump rhetoric after they were removed from their positions. All are all being scrutinized in the wake of an Obama-appointed Inspector General who concluded there was broad and egregious misconduct in the Trump-Russia probe.

The Inspector General previous recommended the Department of Justice consider filing criminal charges against Comey for mishandling classified and government documents in his effort to disparage Trump. But the Justice Department declined to prosecute saying Comey likely did not intend any harm.

Attorney General William Barr has said Durham’s investigation is not expected to be completed before Spring or Summer 2020.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/12/is-u-s-attorney-durham-coming-for-ex-cia-chief-brennan/

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2019, 07:32:15 PM »
Is U.S. Attorney Durham coming for ex-CIA Chief Brennan?
DECEMBER 19, 2019 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON

There’s a new report from the New York Times that U.S Attorney John Durham is seeking to obtain emails and other communications belonging to ex-CIA Director John Brennan as part of the criminal investigation into the intelligence community’s actions in the Trump-Russia probe.

A caution: The New York Times cites anonymous sources (and has proven incorrect many times before on this topic.)

But many analysts believe it’s entirely possible that Durham’s investigation is leading him to examine the actions of the controversial former intel chief. After leaving the Obama administration, Brennan became a frequent Trump attacker, spreading information and innuendo about the president– some of it proven sorely wrong.

Brennan and former Direction of National Intelligence James Clapper along with ex-FBI Director James Comey all went public with frequent anti-Trump rhetoric after they were removed from their positions. All are all being scrutinized in the wake of an Obama-appointed Inspector General who concluded there was broad and egregious misconduct in the Trump-Russia probe.

The Inspector General previous recommended the Department of Justice consider filing criminal charges against Comey for mishandling classified and government documents in his effort to disparage Trump. But the Justice Department declined to prosecute saying Comey likely did not intend any harm.

Attorney General William Barr has said Durham’s investigation is not expected to be completed before Spring or Summer 2020.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/12/is-u-s-attorney-durham-coming-for-ex-cia-chief-brennan/


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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2019, 01:23:05 AM »



LOL...Primeahole is a liar and a hypocrite, typical lefty libtard.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2019, 04:39:12 AM »
Look for these guys, Comey, Clapper and Brennan to start throwing each other under the bus.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2019, 05:29:39 AM »
When a democrat says a fart stinks,  you take a deep whiff and say it smells like roses. ;D

No.  That's what democraps say when Trump says a fart stinks.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2019, 01:37:56 PM »
LOL...Primeahole is a liar and a hypocrite, typical lefty libtard.

-A hypocrite, possibly because this is subjective. -A liar is not even a possibility.

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2019, 09:16:29 PM »
Cannot remember if I posted this back in October, but with the FISA abuse being uncovered, it is evidence that Obama knew about the spying on the Trump campaign. 

Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson Reveals He Was Hired to Investigate Trump in “Fall of 2015” – Claims Memos From Steele Dossier Made Their Way ‘Directly to Obama’
Cristina Laila by Cristina Laila October 14, 2019

Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson revealed in a new book titled, “Crime in Progress” which is set to be released next month that he was first hired to investigate Donald Trump “in the fall of 2015.”

Simpson also claims that memos from the Christopher Steele dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton and her camp made its way directly “to President Obama.”

Hillary Clinton and the DNC during the 2016 presidential election hid their payments to oppos research firm Fusion GPS and Steele through their law firm Perkins Coie.

Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS who then paid former British spy Christopher Steele to compile a Russia dossier to smear Donald Trump.

To this day, the dossier still has not been verified yet the FBI used it to obtain four FISA warrants on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

Of course Obama read the memos that made up the phony Russia dossier.

The coup plotters, including Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Susan Rice, James Comey, John Brennan and James Clapper all met in the Oval Office in January of 2017 and discussed the dossier.

Then-FBI Director James Comey briefed Trump on the salacious claims in the dossier in January of 2017 shortly before Inauguration Day.

It is now known that Comey was already spying on Donald Trump and used his January 2017 meeting at Trump Tower to surveil Trump.

Glenn Simpson worked with the Democrats to frame Trump as a Russian agent and mysteriously met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya before and after her meeting with Don Jr. at Trump Tower in June of 2016.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/fusion-gpss-glenn-simpson-reveals-he-was-hired-to-investigate-trump-in-fall-of-2015-claims-memos-from-steele-dossier-made-their-way-directly-to-obama/

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Re: FISA Abuse
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2019, 12:26:17 AM »
Wonder if Glenn Simpson has worked out a plea deal yet. He's going to need some security.