Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China

[Zillotch]

[SOMEPARTS]

At this point an Anti-Vaxxer is anyone who asks a single question that is outside the mainstream narrative.

Some of us called bullshit on this before there even was a Vaccine. So, why would I buy into the current bullshit?

Of many, a huge difference between this admin and last is that Biden is weaker than the media....and the media is the collective party mouthpiece. This all feels like China, wonder why?

Rush claimed the media and the dem party are one and the same, and you see it in the absolute power to shape people's thoughts on things that are obviously not rational.

[el numero uno]

Just to be clear, I am not disagreeing with you in that some of the reporting has been questionable. Here's the thing though COVID-19 is worldwide. So, when you say "shameful medical system" and government influence, exactly which government and which medical system? All of them....that's highly unlikely.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Funny how conspiracy theorists avoid this type of question.

[el numero uno]

The anti vax crowd is just as nuts as the masks forever crowd. 

It's usually a good thing to be skeptical, but when you have experts making claims regarding X topic, and those claims are not universally criticized by people working in that particular field, it's because it's probably true, or at least as close as it can be at the moment.

[Thin Lizzy]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Funny how conspiracy theorists avoid this type of question.

Unless you look at it as a currency devaluation scheme. If the two biggest economies in the world the United States and the European Union devalue their currencies  by 30 to 40% the rest of the world has to go along or else they’ll be out of business.

That there’s been a worldwide currency devaluation as a result of this virus is not a theory it’s a fact.

The only question is whether you believe it’s legit or a scam.

[SOMEPARTS]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Funny how conspiracy theorists avoid this type of question.

Think of all this as a re-branding for unknown purposes. Covid-19 is a coronavirus strain. It is similar to the SARS-1 / H1N1 virus we've known about since 2003/2009 in Asia....MERS 2012.. as well as....the common cold.


https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-history

https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-strains#1

[Thin Lizzy]

Think of all this as a re-branding for unknown purposes. It is similar to the SARS-1 / H1N1 virus we've known about since 2003/2009 in Asia....MERS 2012 as well as....the common cold.


https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-history

https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-strains#1

I’m still waiting for an explanation as to how we know this is a new virus when they just started testing for it a year ago.

[SOMEPARTS]

I’m still waiting for an explanation as to how we know this is a new virus when they just started testing for it a year ago.

If you go to the CDC site they have a list of symptoms for both the flu and Covid-19 and they are the same save for loss of smell and taste. I've had the flu and guess what....you lose your sense of taste and smell when you can't breathe. 

You have to click on another page to see the flu symptoms...wonder why? It's just little things like this that bug me.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm



Also this CDC gem that doesn't get any press. How many people are getting false positives that just had the cold or flu at some point? Nobody even cares, it's about $$$ and control.


"A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance that a positive result means you have antibodies from an infection with a different virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses). Note: Other coronaviruses cannot produce a positive result on a viral test for SARS-CoV-2."



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

[el numero uno]

Unless you look at it as a currency devaluation scheme. If the two biggest economies in the world the United States and the European Union devalue their currencies  by 30 to 40% the rest of the world has to go along or else they’ll be out of business.

That there’s been a worldwide currency devaluation as a result of this virus is not a theory it’s a fact.

The only question is whether you believe it’s legit or a scam.

Of course currencies have devaluated. Most of the world was in a complete shutdown for months.

You assume devaluation it's a good thing. Venezuela is the king of devaluation, and sees no economic benefit from it.

[el numero uno]

Unless you look at it as a currency devaluation scheme. If the two biggest economies in the world the United States and the European Union devalue their currencies  by 30 to 40% the rest of the world has to go along or else they’ll be out of business.

That there’s been a worldwide currency devaluation as a result of this virus is not a theory it’s a fact.

The only question is whether you believe it’s legit or a scam.

Even if the USA were to benefit from this devaluation scheme you speak of, you need to assume the WHOLE WORLD was part of the conspiracy.

When your "theory" needs to assume every single government and medical expert out there is part of a global conspiracy, then you have a weak, weak "theory".

[SOMEPARTS]

Even if the USA were to benefit from this devaluation scheme you speak of, you need to assume the WHOLE WORLD was part of the conspiracy.

When your "theory" needs to assume every single government and medical expert out there is part of a global conspiracy, then you have a weak, weak "theory".

It's called a race to the bottom.

[el numero uno]

Think of all this as a re-branding for unknown purposes. Covid-19 is a coronavirus strain. It is similar to the SARS-1 / H1N1 virus we've known about since 2003/2009 in Asia....MERS 2012.. as well as....the common cold.


https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-history

https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-strains#1

See, the thing is, there are thousands of medical experts and geneticists out there, and the general consensus seems to BE that Covid is a new virus. Perhaps "new" as in "it's a different strain" and that may be enough for practical purposes.

Why then should I believe YOU? You are an anonymous poster in a bodybuilding forum, with probably zero formal education in medicine. Covid information as been peer-reviewed and has raised no alarms whatsoever.

Why then should I believe YOU?

[SOMEPARTS]

See, the thing is, there are thousands of medical experts and geneticists out there, and the general consensus seems to BE that Covid is a new virus. Perhaps "new" as in "it's a different strain" and that may be enough for practical purposes.

Why then should I believe YOU? You are an anonymous poster in a bodybuilding forum, with probably zero formal education in medicine. Covid information as been peer-reviewed and has raised no alarms whatsoever.

Why then should I believe YOU?

You saw the CDC links right? Duh. It's not my info.

Point is it is a lot of opportunistic wordplay. I've never said the thing doesn't exist, etc. BUT a pandemic in the classic sense? NAH

[el numero uno]

It's called a race to the bottom.

That doesn't explain how every government and medical institution in the whole planet is part of a conspiracy.

[el numero uno]

You saw the CDC links right? Duh. It's not my info.

Point is it is a lot of opportunistic wordplay. I've never said the thing doesn't exist, etc. BUT a pandemic in the classic sense? NAH

Don't backpedal now.

Your post suggested Covid is a rebranding of the common cold.

[Thin Lizzy]

That doesn't explain how every government and medical institution in the whole planet is part of a conspiracy.

If I remember correctly, didn’t you say this virus had a fatality rate of 4 to 10%? So you’ve been wrong before.

[el numero uno]

If I remember correctly, didn’t you say this virus had a fatality rate of 4 to 10%? So you’ve been wrong before.

I don't recall having said that.

But here's the thing, even if I did, me being wrong about a fatality rate is completely irrelevant to how good or bad your "theory" is. Fallacy ad hominem.

See, your "theory" starts collapsing as soon as you take a deeper look. Explain how pretty much EVERY GOVERNMENT AND MEDICAL INSTITUTION is part of this alleged conspiracy.

Until you do, the conspiracy theory holds no water.

[SOMEPARTS]

That doesn't explain how every government and medical institution in the whole planet is part of a conspiracy.

It's not arranged that way. Low level medical people in general are doing what they know. Some are excited to be in the spotlight. Medical admins are happy that funding is just falling from the sky to treat this while people who need preventive medical care sit at home. There are some like Fauci that absolutely understand the politics of it all.

There was a point where it was decided to run with this mask and lockdown nonsense regardless of the science around mid-March 2020. That's when Fauci and the politicians changed their stories. The resulting money printing started almost immediately and went to the big banks FIRST. The question is why?

[SOMEPARTS]

If I remember correctly, didn’t you say this virus had a fatality rate of 4 to 10%? So you’ve been wrong before.

We have govt actions that you would expect to see with that kind of fatality rate. That's the issue.

[Thin Lizzy]

It's not arranged that way. Low level medical people in general are doing what they know. Some are excited to be in the spotlight. Medical admins are happy that funding is just falling from the sky to treat this while people who need preventive medical care sit at home. There are some like Fauci that absolutely understand the politics of it all.

There was a point where it was decided to run with this mask and lockdown nonsense regardless of the science around mid-March 2020. That's when Fauci and the politicians changed their stories. The resulting money printing started almost immediately and went to the big banks FIRST. The question is why?

That’s exactly what happened in New York City. The mayor and the health commissioner had been downplaying it and then suddenly it became the end of the world.

Uno is too far gone. Anybody who still believes a Joe Biden and  Fauci at this point is a true believer.

[el numero uno]

It's not arranged that way. Low level medical people in general are doing what they know. Some are excited to be in the spotlight. Medical admins are happy that funding is just falling from the sky to treat this while people who need preventive medical care sit at home. There are some like Fauci that absolutely understand the politics of it all.

There was a point where it was decided to run with this mask and lockdown nonsense regardless of the science around mid-March 2020. That's when Fauci and the politicians changed their stories. The resulting money printing started almost immediately and went to the big banks FIRST. The question is why?

Science is not a top-down tyrannical scheme where some guy give some orders and everyone has to follow through.

New information is debated and revised all the time. Science is not static nor absolute. It changes as new information flows in.

Your claim assumes most if not all health professionals in the entire world are mindless sheep. Nope. Doesn't work like that.

[el numero uno]

That’s exactly what happened in New York City. The mayor and the health commissioner had been downplaying it and then suddenly it became the end of the world.

Uno is too far gone. Anybody who still believes a Joe Biden and  Fauci at this point is a true believer.

I refuted SOMEPARTS post (see above).

Both you and him are assuming medical knowledge is some kind of top-down tyrannical scheme. That's not how things work, and there's something very, very wrong with that type of deductive reasoning.

Medical science is peer-reviewed and constantly revised.

Unless you can explain (pro tip: you can't) how the conspiracy came to be in every single country and medical institution in the whole world, then your "theory" is just mere speculation.

[el numero uno]

Anyway. Enough for today.

As suspected, conspiracy theories on Getbig collapse at the most superficial of the analysis.

They can only work when assuming extraordinary situations and behavior, on a global scale. Which of course, takes some extreme imagination.

For the record, my position of course is that the virus is real. It's been more damaging in some countries, although the reasons are not well known. Most young people are safe, but a minority can be very susceptible so it's up to you guys to take precautions. Me, I have a lot of relatives in their old age so I prefer to not contract the virus.

Have a great week Getbiggers .

[SOMEPARTS]

Make 3 posts in a row and run off like you won something eh? 

All can be summed up with this ... although some have gotten big egos "medical professionals" do not run the world and the(bought and paid for) politician's mantra is "never let a good crisis go to waste". Safe to say all this is not entirely about public health.

[Thin Lizzy]

Make 3 posts in a row and run off like you won something eh? 

All can be summed up with this ... although some have gotten big egos "medical professionals" do not run the world and the(bought and paid for) politician's mantra is "never let a good crisis go to waste". Safe to say all this is not entirely about public health.

A year ago he was saying Covid was ten times more deadly than the flu. Another a big mouth know it all who is wrong about everything. Probably a government or university worker.