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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2020, 08:07:12 AM »
“Why is it that humans are the only species that have to pay to eat and pay for shelter?“?? Using that logic EVERYTHING should be free since humans are the only species that has to pay for ANYTHING...

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2020, 08:23:41 AM »
Food should be free to bbers

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2020, 08:55:26 AM »
Food is a right. Water is a right. A warm home is a right. Health care is a right. Education is a right. A good paying job is a right. The problem is the government has no money. Only the money they take from the workers. When people who vote for a living out number those that work for a living the whole system will collapse in poverty like all socialist and communist countries do. The only kind and compassionate system in the history of this planet is capitalism.  You are free to make as much money as you can. America might be the only country in this world that has obese poor people. Poor people all over the world are starving and our poor people are waddling around fat. God bless the USA. A country the whole world wishes they lived in. God bless Trump. Fuck you millennial socialists living in your mom's basement that want government to take care of you.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2020, 09:00:28 AM »
Why is it that we have to pay for what is produced naturally by our Mother Earth?


If this author thinks food is produced at no cost he has never been to a farm.

Does he actually believe food just grows by itself like in the Garden of Eden?

What a dope.


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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2020, 09:43:22 AM »
Odd that the left should lay claim to what is or is not, right.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2020, 09:44:28 AM »
Food should be free to bbers

It is.  They just call it "schmoelent greene".   ;D

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2020, 09:47:06 AM »
This thread is so stupid, I thought Primemuscle posted it. :-\

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2020, 10:49:53 AM »
:) Not exactly. My cousin is alive and well. She stills rides her bike and works out at a local gym where she and her husband live in Maine. She is one of the healthiest 68 year old people I know. In the winter she and her husband live in the Florida Key's on their schooner.

Is she sexual?

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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2020, 01:22:01 PM »
Food is a right. Water is a right. A warm home is a right. Health care is a right. Education is a right. A good paying job is a right. The problem is the government has no money. Only the money they take from the workers. When people who vote for a living out number those that work for a living the whole system will collapse in poverty like all socialist and communist countries do. The only kind and compassionate system in the history of this planet is capitalism.  You are free to make as much money as you can. America might be the only country in this world that has obese poor people. Poor people all over the world are starving and our poor people are waddling around fat. God bless the USA. A country the whole world wishes they lived in. God bless Trump. Fuck you millennial socialists living in your mom's basement that want government to take care of you.
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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2020, 02:19:53 PM »
Food is a right. Water is a right. A warm home is a right. Health care is a right. Education is a right. A good paying job is a right. The problem is the government has no money. Only the money they take from the workers. When people who vote for a living out number those that work for a living the whole system will collapse in poverty like all socialist and communist countries do. The only kind and compassionate system in the history of this planet is capitalism.  You are free to make as much money as you can. America might be the only country in this world that has obese poor people. Poor people all over the world are starving and our poor people are waddling around fat. God bless the USA. A country the whole world wishes they lived in. God bless Trump. Fuck you millennial socialists living in your mom's basement that want government to take care of you.

Uh yeah......no. Especially on the education front. None of these are rights. You need to fucking earn them.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2020, 02:25:48 PM »
Food is a right. Water is a right. A warm home is a right. Health care is a right. Education is a right. A good paying job is a right. The problem is the government has no money. Only the money they take from the workers. When people who vote for a living out number those that work for a living the whole system will collapse in poverty like all socialist and communist countries do. The only kind and compassionate system in the history of this planet is capitalism.  You are free to make as much money as you can. America might be the only country in this world that has obese poor people. Poor people all over the world are starving and our poor people are waddling around fat. God bless the USA. A country the whole world wishes they lived in. God bless Trump. Fuck you millennial socialists living in your mom's basement that want government to take care of you.

Rights are things other people allow you to have, there are no inalienable rights, they dont exist, rights are a man made construct..

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2020, 03:35:57 PM »
I dont know if i would say "food should be free", but I do think it makes a lot of sense to have "food stamps" both widely available and generously supplied for all who need/want them.  From what I understand, far as economics goes, there isn't too many government programs which are as beneficial.


There is no shortage of food on Earth anywhere. However there are corrupt governments that withhold food from their citizens.

Well, there's some truth in that, but also I think one thing to consider is that a significant percentage of the world's population lives in regions/climates that just aren't very agriculturally productive.  I sometimes think migration would be more cost effective for reducing hunger,  than other routes we are trying.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2020, 05:10:14 PM »
I dont know if i would say "food should be free", but I do think it makes a lot of sense to have "food stamps" both widely available and generously supplied for all who need/want them.  From what I understand, far as economics goes, there isn't too many government programs which are as beneficial.


Well, there's some truth in that, but also I think one thing to consider is that a significant percentage of the world's population lives in regions/climates that just aren't very agriculturally productive.  I sometimes think migration would be more cost effective for reducing hunger,  than other routes we are trying.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2020, 09:01:15 PM »
Children should not have to pay for food at school. There should also be something set up for summertime so that children who are from poor families can be fed. But grown ass adults should have to work for food if they are able bodied.

So even if you are the children of Donald Trump or Jeff Bezos they still have to have their food provided for by others who may have children of their own that they also have to provide for?

At least in the U.S., there are tons of programs providing food for the poor that are provided for by the taxpayers. Not having enough food to eat is not a huge problem here in America. Just look around.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2020, 09:05:31 PM »
This thread is so stupid, I thought Primemuscle posted it. :-\

LOL @ comparing food with air. Nobody does anything to produce air. It's just there. If food was just "there", meaning everywhere, without any cultivation or labor, then it would be free.


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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2020, 09:08:19 PM »
Food is a right. Water is a right. A warm home is a right. Health care is a right. Education is a right. A good paying job is a right. The problem is the government has no money. Only the money they take from the workers. When people who vote for a living out number those that work for a living the whole system will collapse in poverty like all socialist and communist countries do. The only kind and compassionate system in the history of this planet is capitalism.  You are free to make as much money as you can. America might be the only country in this world that has obese poor people. Poor people all over the world are starving and our poor people are waddling around fat. God bless the USA. A country the whole world wishes they lived in. God bless Trump. Fuck you millennial socialists living in your mom's basement that want government to take care of you.

Again don't conflate having a right to obtain something yourself and having a right to have something provided for you for free.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2020, 09:15:58 PM »
Rights are things other people allow you to have, there are no inalienable rights, they dont exist, rights are a man made construct..

Not true. Nobody gives me the right or allows me to breathe air. I can believe or not believe in any God I want. I can say what I want in my private life. I have a right to live. You can say, "Well, people can kill you, or suffocate you, or put you in jail for your beliefs and speech." But depriving someone of their rights doesn't mean you are granting them these rights.

It's like saying you don't own that pair of glasses you are wearing. You only wear it because I am allowing you to.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2020, 11:02:16 PM »
I don’t ever ask or want anything for free.Ill pay my way the whole way.someone is putting in the time and money to grow it so I shouldn’t get it for free.i know I’m not working for free.Just my .02.

Air isn’t owned or made by anyone and they can’t control that.Food is made by people so needs to be paid for or else those who make/grow it won’t want to make/grow it anymore.

Supreme 'murican intellect right here ^^^^^

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2020, 07:09:30 AM »
Not true. Nobody gives me the right or allows me to breathe air. I can believe or not believe in any God I want. I can say what I want in my private life. I have a right to live. You can say, "Well, people can kill you, or suffocate you, or put you in jail for your beliefs and speech." But depriving someone of their rights doesn't mean you are granting them these rights.

It's like saying you don't own that pair of glasses you are wearing. You only wear it because I am allowing you to.

another person can take all those rights away from you if they are bigger and stronger..

Owning something and having a right to something are two different things but are intrinsically linked, but yes, you only own something because other people allow you to..

There is a huge conversation to be had about the existence of ownership and its actual definition, one that would take up far more time than we have on here

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2020, 09:06:48 AM »
Leftys always want stuff for free

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2020, 11:23:53 AM »
Leftys always want stuff for free

Many "leftys" support socialized programs which help those in need survive. This is different than always wanting free stuff. There are plenty of folks on the right who rely on social benefits. What is interesting is that some of the folks who claim to be against socialized government have no problem benefiting from it.

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2020, 12:30:35 PM »
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/02/06/this-man-believes-food-should-be-free-for-all-is-leading-the-way-to-make-it-possible/

This Man Believes Food Should Be Free For All & Is Leading The Way To Make It Possible

Do you ever question why we have to pay to live and essentially survive on this planet? Grow Free is changing the paradigms in regards to what society has implied we accept and not question.

In order to survive on this planet, human beings need 3 basic things; air, food, and water. If someone were to start charging us for the air we breathe, we would think that they were absolutely crazy, but paying for food daily we don’t even think twice. Why is it that we have to pay for what is produced naturally by our Mother Earth? Why is it that human beings are the only species who have to pay to eat and pay for shelter? Have you ever asked yourself those fundamental questions?

In his TedX Talk, Andrew Barker, Growtester and author for Collective Evolution, raises these questions and more, as he shares his message about what him and his group, Grow Free, are aiming to achieve. Their goal? Simple. To give away for FREE any extra food that they are growing in their own personal gardens. Giving away food for free might sound crazy to some as our minds are so conditioned to be in constant survival mode, someone had to work hard to grow that food, if it’s given away for free, how will they ever be repaid for their hard work? We might think that when there is an abundance of food grown, it goes to waste. How crazy is it that there are people who are starving and we have millions of tons of food being thrown in the garbage every year?


Growing food takes a lot of human effort and capital!

How can someones question himself if it is ok to pay for the food they eat? ::)

Mother nature doesn't care about high yields. Take away irrigation systems, fertilizers, human labor, agricultural techniques, inputs, plant breeding, etc.  and you're left with an 1/10 of our current yields in the best case scenario. 



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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2020, 12:35:32 PM »
Bats, rats and frogs are free

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2020, 02:00:19 PM »
Children should not have to pay for food at school. There should also be something set up for summertime so that children who are from poor families can be fed. But grown ass adults should have to work for food if they are able bodied.

they do get free food at school if their family is low income

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Re: Food Should be Free
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2020, 02:31:41 PM »
Many "leftys" support socialized programs which help those in need get  survive. This is different than always wanting free stuff. There are plenty of folks on the right who rely on social benefits. What is interesting is that some of the folks who claim to be against socialized government have no problem benefiting from it.

Truth.