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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #275 on: January 29, 2020, 10:23:58 PM »
Would this guy or any Hollywood celebs give a flying fuck if you and your family members died?!

Stupid American fucks act like they actually knew this guy.

I already explained this. Hundreds of millions knew who Kobe Bryant was. It doesn't mean we were his best friend and knew everything about him but, like you, they knew who he was, and for many, he was a source of great joy and inspiration.

I really don't see what difference it makes about not mourning over Kobe's death just because he wouldn't mourn over yours. Why would he when he never knew who you were.
I don't know why that's not obvious to you.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #276 on: January 29, 2020, 10:46:33 PM »
I think we are kind of saying the same thing, and more so in reference to some of your other posts.
There are lots of guys who have a relentless work ethic even at the top tier.
It's hard to say that Kobe truly 'worked harder' than a guy like VC.
We don't know that Kobe really could have still been playing, that achilles tear is a total trajectory changer more than other injuries.

But Kobe had 'something' other players simply didn't.  It's an intangible quality.  Its not just talent, or drive, or skill.  It's a combination of all those things plus the X factor that only the .001% possess.

I agree with you bro BUT Kobe’s legacy was his work ethic.

There’s no question he “worked” harder than VC (just in terms of hours spent in practice) there are multiple accounts of other “superstar” players who were in awe of Kobe’s time spent working on his craft; From LeBron and Wade to teammates like Rick Fox.  VC stated when he brought his wrist in high school he learned to play with it or shoot left handed,something, because he heard of Kobe doing something similar. Kobe was a grade behind  Vince. This was before the internet and AAU became what they are today.

But I will admit it’s hard to quantify “work” or quality work and what works for one doesn’t work for another.

Also the Achilles tear is typically a career ender and in Kobe’s case a career changer but he played 2 more seasons after that. I wasn’t saying he could be a primary option or a starter I meant he could be doing what VC is doing coming off the bench for 10 minutes a game.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #277 on: January 30, 2020, 12:21:01 AM »
Maybe. You can show me 15 links saying 5’11, I’ll share the same amount saying 5’10 and someone else will post NBA and ESPN .com saying 6’, which we know he was not.

Perhaps

But this site is pretty accurate

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Allen-Iverson-1232.html

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #278 on: January 30, 2020, 12:26:53 AM »
I think we are kind of saying the same thing, and more so in reference to some of your other posts.
There are lots of guys who have a relentless work ethic even at the top tier.
It's hard to say that Kobe truly 'worked harder' than a guy like VC.
We don't know that Kobe really could have still been playing, that achilles tear is a total trajectory changer more than other injuries.

But Kobe had 'something' other players simply didn't.  It's an intangible quality.  Its not just talent, or drive, or skill.  It's a combination of all those things plus the X factor that only the .001% possess.


How about people not in sports like

Jeff bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, zuckerberg, etc.... in ways I think they possess something that’s even greater?

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #279 on: January 30, 2020, 04:02:22 AM »
This guy is a country star, right?

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #280 on: January 30, 2020, 04:22:42 AM »
This guy is a country star, right?

Hahaha

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #281 on: January 30, 2020, 04:26:46 AM »
This guy is a country star, right?

I don't know, but apparently he was a rapist who enjoyed strangling women during sex.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #282 on: January 30, 2020, 06:23:54 AM »

How about people not in sports like

Jeff bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, zuckerberg, etc.... in ways I think they possess something that’s even greater?

Absolutely agree.  We just don't see it as much because we don't watch them in action the same way.
Also business is even more of a 'team sport' at that level.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #283 on: January 30, 2020, 06:35:23 AM »

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #284 on: January 30, 2020, 06:41:18 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzvMdE6KZD4

flew away from the airport.  disorientated?

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #285 on: January 30, 2020, 06:55:38 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12bSCpujtc

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #286 on: January 30, 2020, 07:12:50 AM »
https://youtu.be/dOee3WQGFv8?t=664

was he looking for sheriff's helipad? 

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #287 on: January 30, 2020, 07:28:00 AM »
Perhaps

But this site is pretty accurate

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Allen-Iverson-1232.html

LOL this is exactly what I'm talking about.

The site is accurate based on what? There comments below his height on the page all argue Iverson is 5'10 and change. The site is so accurate its users dispute his posted height.

It doesn't matter you want to say hes 5'11 that's fine.


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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #288 on: January 30, 2020, 08:22:17 AM »
LOL this is exactly what I'm talking about.

The site is accurate based on what? There comments below his height on the page all argue Iverson is 5'10 and change. The site is so accurate its users dispute his posted height.

It doesn't matter you want to say hes 5'11 that's fine.



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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #289 on: January 30, 2020, 08:39:41 AM »
I think the reason Kobe's death has affected so many people is multifactorial.

Some people genuinely have an obsession with celebrities and sports figures that makes them feel as if they somehow know the person. They know very well that if they were to ever meet, they would be looked upon as strangers, but they still have a sense of familiarity that leads them to live out the celebrity's shortcomings and success.

Others feel that Kobe and many other athletes and actors of this time play roles throughout the landscape of the average individual's life. These are key resounding figures in our lives. They mark an era with their presence. Their names are echoed enough throughout time that it adds meaning to our lives by serving as a benchmark for the time period in which we live in. Just like Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ron Avidan are synonymous with the 90s in that they are generational figure pieces that remind us of where we presently live (time wise), Kobe did the same.

Kobe's death is certainly sad. I do not see it as a tragedy, but I can certainly understand why so many are compelled to speak of it and post about it.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #290 on: January 30, 2020, 11:28:42 AM »
I think the reason Kobe's death has affected so many people is multifactorial.

Some people genuinely have an obsession with celebrities and sports figures that makes them feel as if they somehow know the person. They know very well that if they were to ever meet, they would be looked upon as strangers, but they still have a sense of familiarity that leads them to live out the celebrity's shortcomings and success.

Others feel that Kobe and many other athletes and actors of this time play roles throughout the landscape of the average individual's life. These are key resounding figures in our lives. They mark an era with their presence. Their names are echoed enough throughout time that it adds meaning to our lives by serving as a benchmark for the time period in which we live in. Just like Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ron Avidan are synonymous with the 90s in that they are generational figure pieces that remind us of where we presently live (time wise), Kobe did the same.

Kobe's death is certainly sad. I do not see it as a tragedy, but I can certainly understand why so many are compelled to speak of it and post about it.

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I think these things are true, but I think the biggest factors were just that it was a surprise and it was a sensational death. He was a celebrity in the prime of his life, it wasn't just him, it was his daughter and many of their friends, it was a controversial mode of transportation so it's kind of a cautionary tale.  Whenever deaths come out of the blue, the reaction is always outsized. It's also the type of accident that probably would have gotten attention if Kobe wasn't a legend.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #291 on: January 30, 2020, 02:42:33 PM »
I think the reason Kobe's death has affected so many people is multifactorial.

Some people genuinely have an obsession with celebrities and sports figures that makes them feel as if they somehow know the person. They know very well that if they were to ever meet, they would be looked upon as strangers, but they still have a sense of familiarity that leads them to live out the celebrity's shortcomings and success.

Others feel that Kobe and many other athletes and actors of this time play roles throughout the landscape of the average individual's life. These are key resounding figures in our lives. They mark an era with their presence. Their names are echoed enough throughout time that it adds meaning to our lives by serving as a benchmark for the time period in which we live in. Just like Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ron Avidan are synonymous with the 90s in that they are generational figure pieces that remind us of where we presently live (time wise), Kobe did the same.

Kobe's death is certainly sad. I do not see it as a tragedy, but I can certainly understand why so many are compelled to speak of it and post about it.

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Why do you think his death was not a tragedy?

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #292 on: January 30, 2020, 02:44:41 PM »
Why don't you think his death was not a tragedy?

he said he doesnt see it as a tragedy, its his personal opinion

I dont think its a tragedy when anyone I dont know dies, who fucking cares about people they dont know?

PS you have a double negative question as well

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #293 on: January 30, 2020, 03:06:32 PM »
he said he doesnt see it as a tragedy, its his personal opinion

I dont think its a tragedy when anyone I dont know dies, who fucking cares about people they dont know?

PS you have a double negative question as well


so 9/11 wasn't a tragedy if you didn't know anybody that died?

i understand it not affecting you, i feel like kobe's ego killed them all and the others probably liked to brag about how they know and travel with kobe makes them less sympathetic, but it's still a tragedy

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #294 on: January 30, 2020, 03:10:58 PM »
I think the reason Kobe's death has affected so many people is multifactorial.

Some people genuinely have an obsession with celebrities and sports figures that makes them feel as if they somehow know the person. They know very well that if they were to ever meet, they would be looked upon as strangers, but they still have a sense of familiarity that leads them to live out the celebrity's shortcomings and success.

Others feel that Kobe and many other athletes and actors of this time play roles throughout the landscape of the average individual's life. These are key resounding figures in our lives. They mark an era with their presence. Their names are echoed enough throughout time that it adds meaning to our lives by serving as a benchmark for the time period in which we live in. Just like Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ron Avidan are synonymous with the 90s in that they are generational figure pieces that remind us of where we presently live (time wise), Kobe did the same.

Kobe's death is certainly sad. I do not see it as a tragedy, but I can certainly understand why so many are compelled to speak of it and post about it.

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Great post.

I also don't see it as a tragedy, but I guess other's do see it as a tragedy. I guess it's a matter of how invested you are in that person or their life or if you derived something from them, whether physically or emotionally.

But, I also think its important how we articulate and define "tragedy."  I would assume there is a drastic difference between "personal tragedy" and "worldly tragedy."
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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #295 on: January 30, 2020, 04:02:37 PM »
he said he doesnt see it as a tragedy, its his personal opinion

I dont think its a tragedy when anyone I dont know dies, who fucking cares about people they dont know?

PS you have a double negative question as well

Your shallowness reveals itself again. I know it is his personal opinion and I want to know why he believes that. You have made it quite clear in previous post that the question "why?" is meaningless to you.

I have corrected the grammatical error pointed out and I will extend you the same courtesy. "PS" is an abbreviation of two words and should be written as "P.S." And "dont" should be written as "don't" and "its" if used in its possessive form should be written as "it's".

And not "fucking" caring about innocent people who die really shows what kind of person you are. What a heart. I care and so do hundred of millions of others. Fortunately, people who lack basic human decency like you are still a minority. I often wonder how people like you get like that. So little regard for human life.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #296 on: January 30, 2020, 04:07:06 PM »
Why don't you think his death was not a tragedy?

I judge it by way of magnitude.

The coronavirus that has killed over 200 people in China is a tragedy to me. There deaths are a tragedy given the sheer amount of people and generations it has affected. The 911 attacks were a tragedy, given how it affected the USA for the last 2 decades and the additional lives it has taken by way of war. The Spanish influenza of 1918 was a tragedy, killing close to 50 million people. These are events that shape humanity, hence why I call them a tragedy.

Kobe's death is a very sad one. He was a fantastic NBA player. But I also look at it from a very objective standpoint. Even in Kobe's 41 years of life, he had already lived a better life than millions before have and millions after him will. The sheer pleasures, things he had seen and experienced are all things which the vast majority of us will never experience. His stardom/fame alone is something that in this lifetime is experienced by very little. His wife and surviving children will have it hard, but it can certainly be worse. They could be poor and without a great father & husband. Kobe's family will never suffer by way of a lack of financial means, they will instead suffer due to the lack of his presence, which will come with its own level of hardship.

For all those in attendance, please understand that I believe his death was a sad event. Kobe's name/reputation echoed throughout the late 90's and early 2000's in a way which certainly made him a NBA name that I could remember far past the time that I stopped caring for that sport. I guess I just look at what a tragedy is differently.

Now, if tomorrow someone on GetBig dies, I believe I know them better than I knew Kobe. You guys are real to me, Kobe was not. Onlyme died and that shit affected me. I literally felt his death and would feel the same if any of you died.

I wish Kobe's family the best life has to offer moving forward.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #297 on: January 30, 2020, 04:09:01 PM »
LOL this is exactly what I'm talking about.

The site is accurate based on what? There comments below his height on the page all argue Iverson is 5'10 and change. The site is so accurate its users dispute his posted height.

It doesn't matter you want to say hes 5'11 that's fine.



Never claimed it’s 100 percent accurate, said its pretty accurate and more believable than ESPN or anything or any site for the matter

The NFL combine info, however, is accurate to a T, example : Russell Wilson is measured at 5’10 and change and Tom Brady is 6’4 and a quarter

Matt T height approved

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #298 on: January 30, 2020, 04:11:03 PM »
A sad death for his fans and loved ones for sure.

A tragedy, no (IMO only). (Tragic for his family for sure though).
A real tragedy to me is the Vegas shooting, or FL nightclub shooting, or Franco winning the '81 Mr. O.

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Re: RIP Kobe Bryant
« Reply #299 on: January 30, 2020, 04:12:35 PM »
Great post.

I also don't see it as a tragedy, but I guess other's do see it as a tragedy. I guess it's a matter of how invested you are in that person or their life or if you derived something from them, whether physically or emotionally.

But, I also think its important how we articulate and define "tragedy."  I would assume there is a drastic difference between "personal tragedy" and "worldly tragedy."

You don't feel it is a tragedy when innocent people suffer or die? That surprises me. Where's your heart and empathy that Liberal like to tout so much? A tragedy is when something horrible happens to someone that they did nothing to earn or deserve. They were just a group of passengers taking a helicopter ride, like so many others do, when it crashed and killed them all. Something that their families and close friends will have to live with for the rest of their lives.