BLACKS DONT TIP......thats a total myth

[OneMoreRep]

I've been out to dinner before with black people and they tip just fine. I tend to tip on the high end (25-35%), but that doesn't mean that a 10-15% tip isn't fine.

I've been to countries where tipping is frowned upon. In Australia, Hong Kong and Japan, there was no tipping. I once tried tipping a server at a restaurant in Japan and it was almost insulting to the server. They were very apologetic about the entire thing and told me they never accept tips as great service should be included in the price you pay for the meal.

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[mphgrove]

anybody that worked in the service industry learned stereotypes are true

indian people want their drink without ice

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Yes, it’s ridiculous to try to suppress discussion and recognition of stereotypes. It would be a very boring world if all groups behaved exactly the same, and a lost cause for us to pretend that to be the case. The challenge is the tightrope regarding discrimination in regard individuals based on a stereotype. By the way, the water, lemon and straw stereotype also totally accurate. Americans on an airplane wanting lots of ice and Europeans wanting none at all in soft drinks also completely accurate, according to any working flight attendant.

[mphgrove]

I've been out to dinner before with black people and they tip just fine. I tend to tip on the high end (25-35%), but that doesn't mean that a 10-15% tip isn't fine.

I've been to countries where tipping is frowned upon. In Australia, Hong Kong and Japan, there was no tipping. I once tried tipping a server at a restaurant in Japan and it was almost insulting to the server. They were very apologetic about the entire thing and told me they never accept tips as great service should be included in the price you pay for the meal.

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10 percent tip in US is NOT considered fine!

[WoogsRaven]

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What is it that I said that you find perplexing? I'm speaking the truth. Black people pull that move a lot when they go to restaurants, especially at places like Outback steakhouse. "And what would you you like to drink, ma'am?.....just wahter for all of us....and bring out a big bowl of sliced lemons and bring some extra sugah."

 

[OneMoreRep]

10 percent tip in US is NOT considered fine!

I look at it this way. Tipping isn't mandatory. It's customary, but in no way mandatory.

If a waiter provides terrible service, I won't tip at all. It would make no sense.

If a waiter provides average service and you don't tip at all, that would not be fine by customary standards, but the restaurant wouldn't make too big of a fuss about it as long as you pay for your meal and taxes.

If a waiter provides average to slightly below-average service, I will give a 10% tip. If they provide average service, I tip 15%. If they provide good service, I tip 20%. If they provide great service, I tip 25%. If they go above and beyond, connect with everyone on the table, offer recommendations for other services outside of the restaurant (Broadway shows, good places to find clothing items, museum recs etc), never skip a beat in refilling all drinks on the table and bring the check at the perfect time, then I tip 30%. If they do all of the aforementioned and I find another reason that I personally connect with them, I then tip 35%.

To each their own, but I have my criteria. You'd be amazed, but I've noticed that some of the worst tippers are rich people and some of the best tippers are poor people.

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[Titus Pullo]

Amen.  Good service, good tips.  Great service, great tips, and so on.

[mphgrove]

That’s all well and good, but I suggest doing the job and then firming up your conclusions. A combination of minimum wage plus tip share (having restaurant management pull money out of tips to subsidize kitchen staff and bussers) means that an average 10 percent (for so so service) would put a fair number of servers at the food pantry.

[XFACTOR]

anybody that worked in the service industry learned stereotypes are true

indian people want their drink without ice

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Old people drink hot water and lemon.

[anabolicguru]

you cheap asses, i tip usually 30-40%, servers only make $2 per hour and have to work alot of over time ($3 per hour), so they LIVE off tips

[Earl1972]

Old people drink hot water and lemon.

i don't remember anybody asking for hot water

but old people would often say "i'll drink whatever i can have for free"

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[anabolicguru]

you guys pay the bare minimum but expect beyond the maximum, just like most work the bare minimum but expect $$$$  #metoo #entitlement #liberalmentalityBUTclaimRepublican

[anabolicguru]

if you can't afford tipping, then don't eat out.  Jamal, if you can't pay rent, stop buying dumb fucking jordans

[mphgrove]

i don't remember anybody asking for hot water

but old people would often say "i'll drink whatever i can have for free"

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Greek Americans sometimes bring their own desserts into the restaurant. Some restaurants allow this on special occasions. Irish American liquor tabs are substantial as a rule.

[Al Doggity]

It's different for two reasons. First when I buy shoes I know what I want without needing assistance other than to get the shoes. Second both of the aforementioned positions pay more than someone working in a restaurant. I have high expectations when I dine out and service plays into the high level of experience I'm looking for. I'll pay for that!

But this is really case specific, though. Most restaurant patronage takes place in mid-market establishments. Most restaurant customers aren't looking for high-end wine recommendations. I buy shoes basically every week and every time I'm there the salespeople are being inundated with questions from customers.

I'm a proud Hebrew who is a fairly generous tipper, but tipping is a practice that isn't really based in logic. (And to add credibility to my opinion, a lot of white people I know feel the same.) I go to higher end restaurants fairly regularly because of work and there really isn't a huge difference in service from casual to mid/upper-mid, but it's a difference you're expected to pay for based on a percentage of the cost of your meal. To go back to the shoe example, when you go to most chain shoe stores like modells, they mark the box before you pay so the salesperson who helps you gets a commission. Most clothing stores work like that,too. You're expected to tip based on a percentage of your bill, so why doesn't waitstaff work on some sort of commission basis?

[Rambone]

It’s pretty funny that of all the times I’ve tipped which is 20-25% every meal, I didn’t tip right after this thread was created. I’m currently staying in Bora Bora at a nice resort on my honeymoon and sat down for lunch with nobody else at any other table. 10 mins later, a table of 10 or so off-duty resort workers sat down after we put our drink order in. I made sure to put our food order in before them as well which was two club sandwiches with no mayo. I noticed that they put in their orders right afterwards. What happens? We’re waiting for 30 mins on a sandwich and guess who’s food comes out first? And to make matters worse, ours comes out 15 mins after theirs and are both slathered in mayo and the bacon looked close to raw. After waiting an hour for a sandwich and being served after the employees while paying thousands to stay there, would you leave a tip? Every bill has a 4% service fee added to it and our bill was over $50 US for 2 shitty sandwiches and tap water, so I guess we technically still left a tip.

[anabolicguru]

in most cases, its a difference of BASE hourly wage, retailers do get paid minimum of $8-$10 per hour while servers get paid $2-4 per hour.  And Servers are constantly working

[oldtimer1]

Calling bull shit on some of these 40% tippers. You leave 80 bucks as a tip on a $200 dollar meal?

One thing hasn’t been talked about. This happens in a lot of big establishments.  The owner or manager demands all the tips from the bar tenders and waiters. At the end of the day he disappears into an office and “divides” the money up. Claims every bartender and waiter gets an equal share. Then pretends to be a saint by giving the bus boys and cooks a cut. What he doesn’t say is he gives himself the lion’s share.  

I have a niece that works a popular seaside bar. She told makes thousands in tips for one weekend.  

[anabolicguru]

40% tip on a 20 meal, not $200, but i have tipped $60 for a $120 meal before.  but my bill is usually $20-30 so yes 30-40%

[mphgrove]

40% tip on a 20 meal, not $200, but i have tipped $60 for a $120 meal before.  but my bill is usually $20-30 so yes 30-40%

I catch myself at around 30% to 35% a lot of the time on the smaller checks ($40 and under). I try to talk myself out of it from a fiscal standpoint, but I keep doing it.

[anabolicguru]

I catch myself at around 30% to 35% a lot of the time on the smaller checks ($40 and under). I try to talk myself out of it from a fiscal standpoint, but I keep doing it.

$10 dollar tip on a $40 check is normal, good aesthetic number

[Al Doggity]

in most cases, its a difference of BASE hourly wage, retailers do get paid minimum of $8-$10 per hour while servers get paid $2-4 per hour.  And Servers are constantly working

If this is in response to what I posted, then my post was in favor of changing the way the current system is set up. There are any number of things that could be done- flat server fee in addition to per item commission, raise base wage, etc. A tip system isn't the best and only way restaurants can operate.

And it's not true that servers have no downtime. I'm not taking anything away from the difficulty of the job, but it is not unique in how difficult it is among other jobs on the same level.

[anabolicguru]

If this is in response to what I posted, then my post was in favor of changing the way the current system is set up. There are any number of things that could be done- flat server fee in addition to per item commission, raise base wage, etc. A tip system isn't the best and only way restaurants can operate.

And it's not true that servers have no downtime. I'm not taking anything away from the difficulty of the job, but it is not unique in how difficult it is among other jobs on the same level.

I agree, the system is broken, but its the standards at the moment for servers.  And yes, serving jobs are usually for people who are uneducated and are desperate for income

[robcguns]

Calling bull shit on some of these 40% tippers. You leave 80 bucks as a tip on a $200 dollar meal?

One thing hasn’t been talked about. This happens in a lot of big establishments.  The owner or manager demands all the tips from the bar tenders and waiters. At the end of the day he disappears into an office and “divides” the money up. Claims every bartender and waiter gets an equal share. Then pretends to be a saint by giving the bus boys and cooks a cut. What he doesn’t say is he gives himself the lion’s share.  

I have a niece that works a popular seaside bar. She told makes thousands in tips for one weekend.  

If I eat at Ruth’s Chris in Boston I go in knowing dinner is gonna be 250-300 for my wife and I.Bill is usually 150-200 and I will leave 70-100 depending on service.Usually go there once a month.Steak house at casino my points cover meal and I’m usually there alone so my meal is 60-75 and since points cover it I will tip 30-50 depending on service as well.If my dinner is 50 I will usually leave 75 with good service up or down depending on service.my valet guys at Mohegan sun get 100 or better,400 3 days before Xmas.I tip very well to nice people who put in effort.I don’t tip at all for those who don’t.other day at casino had two johnnie walker blues which was 80 and I left 120.Guys were great.Im far from rich but I spend all of money on eating out.Usually eat out 10-15 times a week.Its my favorite thing to do.Oh yeah went to a seafood buffet in Rhode Island last summer and it was 4 of us at 100 each without drinks so bill ended sup being just under 500 and I left 750.Once again not rich and far from it.Im no gib or xfactor.I just appreciate good help.I also tip my workers a few times a month.

I don’t dress nice or anything so they are always shocked with my tips.The way I look at it is Easy come Easy go.i gamble a ton and make big swings for a regular guy.

[Al Doggity]

And yes, serving jobs are usually for people who are uneducated and are desperate for income

I actually have to take issue with this to a certain degree. I agree that a lot of people who have no other options are servers. But I also think one of the reasons tipping servers has morphed into practically an ethical issue is because it's a job that is seen as fine for post-high school, middle class white people to have. Like whenever you hear people really stringently defending tipping amounts, they usually say something like "I was a server in college, you gotta tip this much" or "my mom was a server, so I always tip extra." I think this kind of financial martyrdom is reserved almost exclusively for servers.

[AbrahamG]

Unless the server is rude or offensive, I don't go below 20%.

I am white and "woke".  Blacks overall are HORRIBLE tippers if they tip at all.  My best bud has been a career server.  Lived all over the country.  North, south, east, west no matter where he's worked, blacks have been the worst.  He specifically says his experience serving in North Carolina is  the bottom of the barrel. 

My wife served at Olive Garden while in college.  The black female servers at Olive Garden would fight over who HAD to wait on other blacks. 

One of my good friends here at work who is black tips very well.  But, he tells me how awful it is to go out to eat with his dad and other family members who leave next to nothing. 

Makes me sick.