Shocking views from joswift that surprised me

[pellius]

I hope you never get before a judge

"Mr Pellius, what evidence do you have to support your case?"
"Just me talking your honour, the word of a moral man"
"Dont you have any paperwork or witnesses to support your story"
"Well I have but I dont believe in stuff like that, its best to just say you didnt do it"

You really are a laugh a minute...

By the way, it wasnt specifically for you, thats why I didnt quote you..

What are you talking about? Evidence? You post evidence of people doing bad things and conclude that we all would do the exact same thing. And now I have to prove things that people don't do? Every heard of the concept that you can't prove a negative.

And, you were "specifically" talking to me. Pay attention, numb-nuts, we're the only two talking.

Such a confused little mind.

[joswift]

What are you talking about? Evidence? You post evidence of people doing bad things and conclude that we all would do the exact same thing. And now I have to prove things that people don't do? Every heard of the concept that you can't prove a negative.

And, you were "specifically" talking to me. Pay attention, numb-nuts, we're the only two talking.

Such a confused little mind.

If you had read the evidence you would have seen it was eminient psycologists stating that we are all capable of doing the same horrific things.

I have told you, go read some literature on the subject, you might learn something.

Your responses in this thread already add weight to my argument..

Do you realise that all the hatred you have for that poor hobo is just that you see something of yourself in him, and its a side of you that you hate, its not about him at all....

[pellius]

If you had read the evidence you would have seen it was eminient psycologists stating that we are all capable of doing the same horrific things.

I have told you, go read some literature on the subject, you might learn something.

Your responses in this thread already add weight to my argument..

Do you realise that all the hatred you have for that poor hobo is just that you see something of yourself in him, and its a side of you that you hate, its not about him at all....

You keep coming back to the same argument that people are capable of horrible things -- something that I've never denied. And from that, you conclude that ALL people are capable of the exact same things although there are numerous examples throughout history where overcame their own narrow selfish interest and did good and the right thing despite great risk, and for many, paying with their lives.

You insult the memory of all the good people, few as they may be, for the heroics,  courage, and goodness that they showed.

You're such a disgraceful human being.

[joswift]

You keep coming back to the same argument that people are capable of horrible things -- something that I've never denied. And from that, you conclude that ALL people are capable of the exact same things although there are numerous examples throughout history where overcame their own narrow selfish interest and did good and the right thing despite great risk, and for many, paying with their lives.

You insult the memory of all the good people, few as they may be, for the heroics,  courage, and goodness that they showed.

You're such a disgraceful human being.

If you paid any attention to the evidence I provided you would have dropped this futile discussion a few pages back.
The reason you cant accept my point, and the point of eminent psychologists is that its because you just don't understand it.
You should educate yourself a bit more then maybe, just maybe we could communicate on an intellectually similar level, at the moment its like a chess master playing against a pigeon, no matter how well I play you will still end up knocking all the pieces off the board and then walking around like you won...

[pellius]

If you paid any attention to the evidence I provided you would have dropped this futile discussion a few pages back.
The reason you cant accept my point, and the point of eminent psychologists is that its because you just don't understand it.
You should educate yourself a bit more then maybe, just maybe we could communicate on an intellectually similar level, at the moment its like a chess master playing against a pigeon, no matter how well I play you will still end up knocking all the pieces off the board and then walking around like you won...

Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.

And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.

You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.

[AbrahamG]

Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.

And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.

You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.

The Quarter Pounder Invitational in the parking lot of McDonald's with the downtrodden.

[joswift]

Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.

And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.

You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.

Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. 

pellius at work....

[pellius]

Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. 

pellius at work....

Now you're just babbling. You've run out of arguments to back your warped and sick view of human nature. You may be a latent monster with no free will and a passive victim to random circumstances. You may even make the argument that most people are like you. But not everybody. Not by a long shot. Sad that you don't know any good people down to the core and have a line that they will not cross no matter what. Not everybody values their life and their needs more than anything in the world. Many have willingly sacrificed both for the good of others.

[joswift]

Now you're just babbling. You've run out of arguments to back your warped and sick view of human nature. You may be a latent monster with no free will and a passive victim to random circumstances. You may even make the argument that most people are like you. But not everybody. Not by a long shot. Sad that you don't know any good people down to the core and have a line that they will not cross no matter what. Not everybody values their life and their needs more than anything in the world. Many have willingly sacrificed both for the good of others.

I have never punched a hobo

that person doesn't exist..if they haven't crossed the line its just because the circumstances didn't fall into place for it to happen,,,

[AbrahamG]

Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. 

pellius at work....

"one, two, three, four.  pump that pussy til it's sore"

[pellius]

I have never punched a hobo

that person doesn't exist..if they haven't crossed the line its just because the circumstances didn't fall into place for it to happen,,,

Of course, you wouldn't. You're the consummate pussy. Trying to build your body with steroids to cover up the fact that you are a weak coward. A guy could just stand in front staring at you and waving his dick, and it doesn't matter if your wife was there or your little daughter or niece if you had one. You would just accept it because you are afraid of getting hurt.

By your own admission, you have no moral values but simply a product of your circumstances and stand for nothing in life. Just a hollow, soulless, nothing.

[pellius]

"one, two, three, four.  pump that pussy til it's sore"

Just like Prime, he spends all his time on the internet searching for gifs, pics, and links. At least Prime is living off his retirement income but this POS sponges off his wife so he can live his self-absorbed, narcissist lifestyle.

[joswift]

Of course, you wouldn't. You're the consummate pussy. Trying to build your body with steroids to cover up the fact that you are a weak coward. A guy could just stand in front staring at you and waving his dick, and it doesn't matter if your wife was there or your little daughter or niece if you had one. You would just accept it because you are afraid of getting hurt.

By your own admission, you have no moral values but simply a product of your circumstances and stand for nothing in life. Just a hollow, soulless, nothing.

Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?

Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?

I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...

Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...


and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...

If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.

[Primemuscle]

Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?

Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?

I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...

Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...


and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...

If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.

Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?

[joswift]

Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?

Now you mention it I think Pellius was probably the underdog

[borsen8]

I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.

However they are all still better than orange man

[Primemuscle]

I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.

However they are all still better than orange man

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[pellius]

Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?

Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?

I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...

Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...


and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...

If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.

People who do horrible things are not always mentally ill. It's an excuse to to excused their acts which is what Liberals do.

And do I really have to explain this? If I was confronted by a gang of thugs or a man with a gun would I have acted the same way? Of course not. Would I jump in if a man was raping a woman or if a woman was being eaten by a Pride of lions? I have to explain this to you? Just because you can't do anything in some situations doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything in all situations. Just another example of you just not being a clear thinker. These are concepts a child would understand.

The reason why more and more people are doing gross and indecent things is because we, as a society, allow it. Maybe that's the kind of world you want to live in but not me. I do what I can to preserve some semblance of decency. I'm not a weakling and a coward like you.

And you don't have morals. Morals imply a God. I already explained this to you. You already admitted that your "morals" are just personal opinions completely dependant of the specific circumstances at the time.

[pellius]

Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?

LOL! No one gives a shit what you think. You're a confirmed pervert and the majority despise you here. So astonishingly clueless. Even something trivia like when that person made that joke about Platz and not having tats on his face and your reply was something to the effect, "You're getting him confused with Lee Priest." No shit, you soggy vile little pervert. But keep allying yourself with joswift. I'm sure he loves being associated with you. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I wonder if joswift feels the same way you repugnant creep.

I had a little discussion with Josh today. He's doing well and sounds great. We talked about these issues here and he made some good points. He did make this concluding comment:

"regardless of my changes-primemuscle is still the creepiest person on that site.

[pellius]

I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.

However they are all still better than orange man

Big difference between having a more Government controlled socialist economy and executing people and sending them to gulags for disagreeing with your policies.

[pellius]

A refresher course though it may exceed the upper limits of your attention span and comprehension level and totally rejects your deluded beliefs that you have morals. You have opinions completely dependant on the circumstances and state of your feelings in the moment.

 

So where does morality come from? To answer this you have to start from the premise that moral good and evil really exist. They are not simply a matter of personal taste or opinion. A concept that I believe is unforgivably shallow and superficial. A very, very common trait in our ever-expanding secular society.

Unlike science which tells us what is, the laws of morality tell us what ought to be. And like physical laws they direct and order something, i.e., right human behavior. But since morality doesn't exist physically its cause has to be something that exists apart from the physical world (nature). And that "thing" or "concept" has to be above nature, or supernatural. So if you believe that morality does, in fact, exists then this proves the existence of something beyond nature and beyond man. Just as a design implies a designer (a concept you also reject) moral commands implies a moral commander. Moral laws must come from a moral lawgiver. And that's what theists call God. Therefore, whenever you appeal to morality you appeal to God whether you think so or not.

So, by your arguments and the beliefs you presented here, you do not believe that there is such a thing as moral good and moral evil. All your value system is based simply on opinions. What you like and what you dislike and those can vary wildly. And that does not make for a better world.

[Primemuscle]

LOL! No one gives a shit what you think. You're a confirmed pervert and the majority despise you here. So astonishingly clueless. Even something trivia like when that person made that joke about Platz and not having tats on his face and your reply was something to the effect, "You're getting him confused with Lee Priest." No shit, you soggy vile little pervert. But keep allying yourself with joswift. I'm sure he loves being associated with you. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I wonder if joswift feels the same way you repugnant creep.

I had a little discussion with Josh today. He's doing well and sounds great. We talked about these issues here and he made some good points. He did make this concluding comment:

"regardless of my changes-primemuscle is still the creepiest person on that site.

Josh said that? I can't believe it, he's always been such a nice guy. You, on the other hand, are just plain sad.

[illuminati]

I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.

However they are all still better than orange man

How do you figure that they are Better than some Orange Man.
Yet by your own words you say they would have no problems being tyrants ?

Who is this orange man you speak of. ?

[joswift]

People who do horrible things are not always mentally ill. It's an excuse to to excused their acts which is what Liberals do.

And do I really have to explain this? If I was confronted by a gang of thugs or a man with a gun would I have acted the same way? Of course not. Would I jump in if a man was raping a woman or if a woman was being eaten by a Pride of lions? I have to explain this to you? Just because you can't do anything in some situations doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything in all situations. Just another example of you just not being a clear thinker. These are concepts a child would understand.

The reason why more and more people are doing gross and indecent things is because we, as a society, allow it. Maybe that's the kind of world you want to live in but not me. I do what I can to preserve some semblance of decency. I'm not a weakling and a coward like you.

And you don't have morals. Morals imply a God. I already explained this to you. You already admitted that your "morals" are just personal opinions completely dependant of the specific circumstances at the time.

we know you wouldnt ....

[Primemuscle]

I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.

However they are all still better than orange man

Just curious, are you saying Chasten Buttigieg is disgusting or do you mean same sex marriage is disgusting? Wonder how they decided who would take who's last name? Chasten's was Glezman.