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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2020, 10:40:52 AM »
Huge deadlift!!

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2020, 10:53:15 AM »
Nosebleeds @13:00 - anyone like to guesstimate his systolic at that point?



Edit:  plus crying blood from eyes and ears @15:46
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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2020, 04:08:50 PM »
Its thors verticle diet?
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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2020, 04:11:22 PM »
Strong mother effer

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2020, 04:14:10 PM »
 i heard stan effarting had him on 9to10k calories mostly rice because he previous b4 stan had fatty liver and high bp
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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2020, 07:07:31 PM »
Nosebleeds @13:00 - anyone like to guesstimate his systolic at that point?



Edit:  plus crying blood from eyes and ears @15:46

So - how could Eddie have had more in him on that day?  Or think he could beat that lift?

A lift like that...I would think for some of these max lifts, competitors may need months before they would be willing to try that again...but this was a particularly intense PR.  To talk like he would just try it again and add 20-lb...needless to say - he's very ambitious!

I guess I just fear for his health, given how much that 1100-lb PR brought up his blood pressure and heart rate.  :o

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2020, 12:07:22 AM »
What makes Halthors lift even more amazing is that it doesn't look like he was using a deadlift suit. Ivan Makarov was using one as was Eddie when he did the 500. Crazy.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2020, 03:18:50 AM »
Are these guys on gear or they get tested?

Probably the dumbest question I have ever seen posted here.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2020, 04:04:07 AM »
What makes Halthors lift even more amazing is that it doesn't look like he was using a deadlift suit. Ivan Makarov was using one as was Eddie when he did the 500. Crazy.
Yes. But nothing prevents him from using it. I am sure if it helped him he would have already tried for the record with a suit. And Hall has deadlifted over 460 kg without a suit. That's about 15 lbs more than Hafthor was doing for reps. Here with Arnold looking on!


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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2020, 05:41:47 AM »
Yes. But nothing prevents him from using it. I am sure if it helped him he would have already tried for the record with a suit. And Hall has deadlifted over 460 kg without a suit. That's about 15 lbs more than Hafthor was doing for reps. Here with Arnold looking on!



As you said - if it helped him, I'm sure he would have already tried for the record with a suit.

I would just add one small point - as you suggested, Eddie probably doesn't think the suit is helping him, so he doesn't use it.  But how could a full suit not be helping him?  Are suits less of an advantage as the weight goes up so high like that?  If so, why?  Are suits less of an advantage for extremely large lifters?  Eddie appears to be wearing the bottom half of the suit in the clip above - does the bottom half offer most of the advantage?

Maybe it has something to do with the top half of the suit being so tight, and constricting his breathing in a way that makes whatever advantage it gives not worth it, thus sticking to the advantage of the bottom half alone, with more freedom of either breathing, or movement in general.

Only because world class athletes can definitely be INSANE sometimes...does anyone know if Eddie is at any real chance of death here?  I have not seen too many elite strength performances that featured this much subjective maximum intensity...or absolute maximum intensity for that matter.

I fear for Eddie's health, obviously.  Seems like a good bloke who I could spend several "quids" on somewhere in a UK tavern, buying him fish and chips [no idea if this makes sense, or if I may be combining Australian and UK English with a Newfoundland menu. ;D].

I recall Vince Goodrum once reporting that a powerlifter at one of the Arnold Classic expos shat himself...even that is not necessarily as strong of evidence for top intensity, like Eddie's face bleeding, high blood pressure, etc, featured here.

Worth repeating - [1] Eddie seems like a good bloke, and [2] I fear for Eddie's health...........

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2020, 06:14:38 AM »
Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2020, 07:21:19 AM »
Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope


Eddie is not dumb Marty, just the opposite, very animated fun loving guy.... why would you say that?

He did a 1100 pound lift, achieved all he could in powerlifting and retired with all of his health/joints intact
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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2020, 08:05:07 AM »
On gear, no testing.

Thor was 385 off gear (or TRT clean out) a couple months back. Weighed in at 462 last week.
That plus doubling up on calories again.

He was actually playing a prank on the cameraman, he shows how in the video.  He isn't 462 (yet)

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2020, 10:30:34 AM »
I've been thinking more on this (Yeah, I have no life...  And I bet one of the guys on here with more of a PL background than a BB background can probably point me in the right direction too - I am definitely not the first person to have thought of this...)

But since work done is calculated by multiplying the force by the amount of movement of an object (W = F * d)  (think foot-pounds here if you have to)

And some guys are taller than others, so d is larger, we could then divide that by their weight to give a true 'strongest b4stard' award...  No..?  (A real power-to-weight ratio)

So why don't the World Record people do this simple calc?  (In before someone tells me they do LOL  ;D  I know F-all about weight lifting...)

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2020, 12:26:20 PM »
He was actually playing a prank on the cameraman, he shows how in the video.  He isn't 462 (yet)

I didn't watch the video, but I seem to recall the thumbnail had a question mark next to the number 462.

I think Brian Shaw was 450-lb at one of the Arnold Classics.  Either 2016 or 2017 [or maybe both].  Thor is around the same height [half an inch taller], and I could definitely see him hit 462-lb.

Boggles the mind.

Most posters on Sherdog [MMA forum] felt that Bjornsson could beat Conor McGregor in a fight.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2020, 11:00:23 AM »
Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2020, 03:43:51 PM »
As you said - if it helped him, I'm sure he would have already tried for the record with a suit.

I would just add one small point - as you suggested, Eddie probably doesn't think the suit is helping him, so he doesn't use it.  But how could a full suit not be helping him?  Are suits less of an advantage as the weight goes up so high like that?  If so, why?  Are suits less of an advantage for extremely large lifters?  Eddie appears to be wearing the bottom half of the suit in the clip above - does the bottom half offer most of the advantage?

Maybe it has something to do with the top half of the suit being so tight, and constricting his breathing in a way that makes whatever advantage it gives not worth it, thus sticking to the advantage of the bottom half alone, with more freedom of either breathing, or movement in general.

Only because world class athletes can definitely be INSANE sometimes...does anyone know if Eddie is at any real chance of death here?  I have not seen too many elite strength performances that featured this much subjective maximum intensity...or absolute maximum intensity for that matter.

I fear for Eddie's health, obviously.  Seems like a good bloke who I could spend several "quids" on somewhere in a UK tavern, buying him fish and chips [no idea if this makes sense, or if I may be combining Australian and UK English with a Newfoundland menu. ;D].

I recall Vince Goodrum once reporting that a powerlifter at one of the Arnold Classic expos shat himself...even that is not necessarily as strong of evidence for top intensity, like Eddie's face bleeding, high blood pressure, etc, featured here.

Worth repeating - [1] Eddie seems like a good bloke, and [2] I fear for Eddie's health...........
Oh I am sure the suit helped him lift 500 kg. But he has out lifted Thor numerous times in other contests without a suit. Nothing prevents Thor from lifting with a suit to beat the record. He has himself used suits.

Look at this screenshot from the 2016 DL competition backstage. Thor is wearing a suit and so is Eddie. Eddie did 500 kg and Thor tapped out at 440 kg.

They wear shirts to hide the suits.

In the 462kg lift in front of Arnold it is noticeable how fast Eddie unwraps the straps and gets up to celebrate after the lift. So in that instance his health was not feared for. But many feared for his health after the 465 kg and then shortly after that the 500 kg lifts in 2016. He did not get up fast!  ;D

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2020, 03:46:08 PM »
Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
He retired bra. Eddie looks to be pretty smart. He is witty and mischievous like Arnold. And now they are going in business together!

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2020, 03:49:02 PM »
I didn't watch the video, but I seem to recall the thumbnail had a question mark next to the number 462.

I think Brian Shaw was 450-lb at one of the Arnold Classics.  Either 2016 or 2017 [or maybe both].  Thor is around the same height [half an inch taller], and I could definitely see him hit 462-lb.

Boggles the mind.

Most posters on Sherdog [MMA forum] felt that Bjornsson could beat Conor McGregor in a fight.

I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2020, 04:00:01 PM »
I've been thinking more on this (Yeah, I have no life...  And I bet one of the guys on here with more of a PL background than a BB background can probably point me in the right direction too - I am definitely not the first person to have thought of this...)

But since work done is calculated by multiplying the force by the amount of movement of an object (W = F * d)  (think foot-pounds here if you have to)

And some guys are taller than others, so d is larger, we could then divide that by their weight to give a true 'strongest b4stard' award...  No..?  (A real power-to-weight ratio)

So why don't the World Record people do this simple calc?  (In before someone tells me they do LOL  ;D  I know F-all about weight lifting...)


That is not practical. In your scenario a taller guy could lift less than a shorter guy and then still win! In the end he did not lift as much though. So I think it is fine to just go by who lifts the most. The same argument could be made that the taller guys have a lot more mass giving them an advantage. When you double the size of an object the mass actually increases 8 times! So if two people have identical proportions but the one man is 48" tall and the other is 96" tall the larger man would be 8 times heavier!?

Here's a sphere's calculation for reference: Doubling the diameter increases the volume by 8, because you have twice as much depth, twice as much width, and twice as much height.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2020, 04:01:56 PM »
I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.
Yes I second that. If he got a hold of Connor he would crush him easily. If Connor got lucky and kicked him in the balls and then stomped his head while he was on the ground he could win though. But I think 9 out of 10 times Thor would kill the little guy.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2020, 04:21:51 PM »
Deadlifting with straps is cheating.

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2020, 04:36:53 PM »
I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.

Weight classes do exist for a reason...I just have a hard time assessing all of these hypothetical strongman vs. MMA fights.

If Thor could beat Conor, is it safe to say that men his size and strength [who exist in very small numbers, and are only basically seen in the WSM and similar lineups] could beat any 155-lb fighters?

If that's the case, what about 170-lb fighters?  After speaking to some people, and reading online, it seems that perhaps 170-lb is the division where you may see guys that size beat the strongmen, even those Thor's size?

I would say for sure any heavyweight would be able to beat the biggest and strongest strongmen, and if the biggest and strongest like Thor could beat any of the 155-lb fighters, the question in my mind is "When does skill outweigh strength and size?"

Would it be 170-lb, 185-lb, 205-lb, or the heavyweights?  As said, I know the heavyweights could take the strongmen in fights...but could most guys in the 170-lb class do so?  How about the champion at 170-lb?  If not, then what about among the 185-lb class?

Would it be safe to say that a prime Georges St-Pierre could beat Thor in a fight...or would Thor's size be too much for GSP too, in addition to Conor and other 155-lb fighters?

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2020, 06:03:45 PM »
There's an old video of Connor and Thor messing around in the gym.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Hafthor Bjornsson - 1003-lb Deadlift x2 Reps.
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2020, 09:22:35 AM »
There's an old video of Connor and Thor messing around in the gym.

Here is a good breakdown of that video by TheWeasle: