Lt. Col. Vindman and Ambassador Sondland FIRED

[SOMEPARTS]

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and his twin brother escorted from White House. Admitted leaking info and not following chain of command because Trump didn't say what he wanted on the Ukraine call. Was actively advising Ukraine on how to work against Trump/USA foreign policy. His brother also works in the NSF. Traitorous. He and his brother were born in the USSR, btw. So finally some "Russians did something".

EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland recalled and told "services no longer needed". Remember he told the House he had the goods on Ukraine and then later admitted in the same testimony that Trump said "no quid pro quo" verbatim. Idiot. He also is facing several sexual misconduct cases in the States.

 

[Straw Man]

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and his twin brother escorted from White House. Admitted leaking info and not following chain of command because Trump didn't say what he wanted on the Ukraine call. Was actively advising Ukraine on how to work against Trump/USA foreign policy. His brother also works in the NSF. Traitorous. He and his brother were born in the USSR, btw. So finally some "Russians did something".

EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland recalled and told "services no longer needed". Remember he told the House he had the goods on Ukraine and then later admitted in the same testimony that Trump said "no quid pro quo" verbatim. Idiot. He also is facing several sexual misconduct cases in the States.

 

bullshit on your claim about Vindman but feel free to post actual proof if you have it

Trumptard said "no quid pro quo" to Sondland AFTER he knew he was busted (i.e. right after he learned about the whistle blower complaint)

They both got fired for responding to a lawful subpoena, taking and oath to tell the truth and the tellign the truth (of course in Sondlands case his memory suddently got a lot better after his collegues testified)

Trumptard can fire whoever he wants

No need to spread lies to justify it

[Coach is Back!]

bullshit on your claim about Vindman but feel free to post actual proof if you have it

Trumptard said "no quid pro quo" to Sondland AFTER he knew he was busted (i.e. right after he learned about the whistle blower complaint)

They both got fired for responding to a lawful subpoena, taking and oath to tell the truth and the tellign the truth (of course in Sondlands case his memory suddently got a lot better after his collegues testified)

Trumptard can fire whoever he wants

No need to spread lies to justify it

Vindman also admitted to lying

[IRON CROSS]

Trump can fire whoever he wants

Straw/RK 


                                           

[chaos]

A good leader needs to surround himself with people that support him and share his visions, not those that try to betray and undermine him.

[SOMEPARTS]

bullshit on your claim about Vindman but feel free to post actual proof if you have it

Trumptard said "no quid pro quo" to Sondland AFTER he knew he was busted (i.e. right after he learned about the whistle blower complaint)

They both got fired for responding to a lawful subpoena, taking and oath to tell the truth and the tellign the truth (of course in Sondlands case his memory suddently got a lot better after his collegues testified)

Trumptard can fire whoever he wants

No need to spread lies to justify it

As if the rest didn't matter, then you pick that out.

Sooooo, why would the govt that Biden was dirty dealing with need to check with a guy that was there before Trump and Giuliani on what to say about the obvious corruption?

BUSTED, that's why. He admits choosing Ukraine's interest over the USA below.




" “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen,” he told investigators, “and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine.”

His heritage gave Colonel Vindman, who is fluent in both Ukrainian and Russian, unique insight into Mr. Trump’s pressure campaign; on numerous occasions, Ukrainian officials sought him out for advice about how to deal with Mr. Giuliani." "



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/us/politics/who-is-alexander-vindman.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

[SOMEPARTS]

bullshit on your claim about Vindman but feel free to post actual proof if you have it

PIP or come back here and get your owning, you dog faced pony soldier.   

Straw Man    Last Active:    February 07, 2020, 07:30:45 PM

[Primemuscle]

With so much dishonesty going on these days, it's hard to believe anything one sees or hears. People in all walks of life are getting away with things they never would have a few years ago.

Schiff said, "...Trump is exacting his retribution, removing those who complied with subpoenas, came forward, and testified about his misconduct." Did he expect them to lie? The general perjury statute under federal law classifies perjury as a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to five years.

[SOMEPARTS]

With so much dishonesty going on these days, it's hard to believe anything one sees or hears. People in all walks of life are getting away with things they never would have a few years ago.

Schiff said, "...Trump is exacting his retribution, removing those who complied with subpoenas, came forward, and testified about his misconduct." Did he expect them to lie? The general perjury statute under federal law classifies perjury as a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to five years.

Pretty sure all these people serve at the direction/pleasure of the Executive Branch.

[Primemuscle]

Pretty sure all these people serve at the direction/pleasure of the Executive Branch.

Meaning what? They are required to perjure themselves for Trump.

[SOMEPARTS]

Meaning what? They are required to perjure themselves for Trump.

Flip that then....did they perjure themselves for Schiff or does that require actually stating something of worth to the House committee? In the end it was opinion and conjecture....at best.

[Primemuscle]

Flip that then....did they perjure themselves for Schiff or does that require actually stating something of worth to the House committee? In the end it was opinion and conjecture.

We may never know who is/was lying and when. Either way, perjury is a felony. Some of Trump's cohorts can attest to that. They lied for him and did his dirty work and look where it got them. Here are a few folks who lied for Trump:

Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison and ordered to pay a $50,000 fine.

Paul Manafort got 47 months in prison.

Rick Gates was sentenced to three years of probation, 45 days in jail, and 300 hours of community service. He was also ordered to pay a $20,000 fine.

Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI in relation to the Special Counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections. and has since changed his plea. A trial is in the works.

George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about the timing of his conversations with a professor who had ties to Russian intelligence. He cooled his heels for 12 days for lying to investigators about his contact with individuals tied to Russia during the 2016 campaign.

Alex van der Zwaan admitted to lying to Mueller's investigators about his contacts with Gates. He was sentenced to 30 days behind bars and fined $20,000.

[IRON CROSS]

Saggy will never stop 

[jude2]

Good, now this fool can take the job offered to him to run the Ukraine military that he said they offered him.

[pellius]

LEROY PETRY (MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT) reported that those who knew Vindman during Ranger School said he was a "Chow Thief", "Spotlighter", and was "Peered Out".

The position he held is one that is to support the President. Obama fired all the ambassadors the day after he became President and put in his own people. When my father worked for the government (worked directly under the Governor) even when his party was reelected they all had to submit letters of resignation leaving it to the Governor whether to accept or reject the resignation. It was almost a formality to emphasize that it's a newly elected administration even though for all practical purposes little would change.

[Dos Equis]

We may never know who is/was lying and when. Either way, perjury is a felony. Some of Trump's cohorts can attest to that. They lied for him and did his dirty work and look where it got them. Here are a few folks who lied for Trump:

Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison and ordered to pay a $50,000 fine.

Paul Manafort got 47 months in prison.

Rick Gates was sentenced to three years of probation, 45 days in jail, and 300 hours of community service. He was also ordered to pay a $20,000 fine.

Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI in relation to the Special Counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections. and has since changed his plea. A trial is in the works.

George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about the timing of his conversations with a professor who had ties to Russian intelligence. He cooled his heels for 12 days for lying to investigators about his contact with individuals tied to Russia during the 2016 campaign.

Alex van der Zwaan admitted to lying to Mueller's investigators about his contacts with Gates. He was sentenced to 30 days behind bars and fined $20,000.

None of those people "lied for Trump."  Why are you making a false statement? 

[Primemuscle]

LEROY PETRY (MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT) reported that those who knew Vindman during Ranger School said he was a "Chow Thief", "Spotlighter", and was "Peered Out".

The position he held is one that is to support the President. Obama fired all the ambassadors the day after he became President and put in his own people. When my father worked for the government (worked directly under the Governor) even when his party was reelected they all had to submit letters of resignation leaving it to the Governor whether to accept or reject the resignation. It was almost a formality to emphasize that it's a newly elected administration even though for all practical purposes little would change.

All of this may be accurate. However, the timing of Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vidman's firing is suspect. In fact, if Vidman was as Sergeant First Class Leroy A. Petry described, one wonders how he achieved the position of National Security Council's top Ukraine expert in the first place. American military officer and attorney on the United States National Security Council, Yevgeny S. Vindman, Alexander's twin brother was simultaneously fired and escorted from the White House.

In 2018 President Trump selected Gordon Sondland to be the next United States ambassador to the European Union. The position had been vacant since Trump took office in 2016. Anthony Gardner received a message from Washington on December 23, 2016 informing him that he and other political appointees must leave their jobs by Trump’s inauguration day.

[pellius]

All of this may be accurate. However, the timing of Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vidman's firing is suspect. In fact, if Vidman was as Sergeant First Class Leroy A. Petry described, one wonders how he achieved the position of National Security Council's top Ukraine expert in the first place. American military officer and attorney on the United States National Security Council, Yevgeny S. Vindman, Alexander's twin brother was simultaneously fired and escorted from the White House.

In 2018 President Trump selected Gordon Sondland to be the next United States ambassador to the European Union. The position had been vacant since Trump took office in 2016. Anthony Gardner received a message from Washington on December 23, 2016 informing him that he and other political appointees must leave their jobs by Trump’s inauguration day.

You don't seem to understand. These positions are created to serve the President and support his agenda. They serve at the pleasure of the President and are subject to dismissal for any reason or no reason. When a new administration takes over is when the current elected leader cleans house and selects his own cabinet. All Obama carryovers should be gone. When Obama was elected, Vindman was appointed as a foreign affairs officer serving in the embassies in the Eastern Bloc countries and was on the Joint Staff. It was no secret that he was not a Trump supporter. Trump should have got rid of him on day one. Why on earth would you keep somebody on your staff who does not support your agenda? Especially if he takes your food when you're not looking.

[Powerlift66]

bullshit on your claim about Vindman but feel free to post actual proof if you have it

Trumptard said "no quid pro quo" to Sondland AFTER he knew he was busted (i.e. right after he learned about the whistle blower complaint)

They both got fired for responding to a lawful subpoena, taking and oath to tell the truth and the tellign the truth (of course in Sondlands case his memory suddently got a lot better after his collegues testified)

Trumptard can fire whoever he wants

No need to spread lies to justify it

“The United States Senate voted to reject the outrageous, partisan impeachment hoax and to issue a full, complete and absolute total acquittal,” Trump said to roars of approval. “The radical left’s pathetic partisan crusade has completely failed and utterly backfired.”

[Powerlift66]

Looks like Straw and Prime are melting down over everything.
What if Trump wins in 2020, will you run and quit the site like "240 or Rust" did?

[Primemuscle]

You don't seem to understand. These positions are created to serve the President and support his agenda. They serve at the pleasure of the President and are subject to dismissal for any reason or no reason. When a new administration takes over is when the current elected leader cleans house and selects his own cabinet. All Obama carryovers should be gone. When Obama was elected, Vindman was appointed as a foreign affairs officer serving in the embassies in the Eastern Bloc countries and was on the Joint Staff. It was no secret that he was not a Trump supporter. Trump should have got rid of him on day one. Why on earth would you keep somebody on your staff who does not support your agenda? Especially if he takes your food when you're not looking.

I do understand completely. Here's the key which is taken from your post, If he was not a Trump supporter, "Trump should have got rid of him on day one."  The only problem is that, like Sondland, day one was in 2018 when he accepted an assignment with the National Security Council. Trump fired Gordon and his twin brother immediately following his acquittal.  

"Vindman was appointed to his post in July 2018 and was asked to stay for two years." https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/politics/alexander-vindman-white-house-national-security-council/index.html

Trump appointed Ambassador Gordon Sondland in 2018. Trump fired Sondland immediately after he was acquitted.  

[Thin Lizzy]

Apparently there was cheering when Vindman was led out of the White House, seems like everybody hated him.

[Primemuscle]

Apparently there was cheering when Vindman was led out of the White House, seems like everybody hated him.

Not everyone. "Trump backers cheered Vindman's removal, while Democrats were aghast."

https://time.com/5780192/alexander-vindman-escorted-white-house/

[AbrahamG]

LEROY PETRY (MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT) reported that those who knew Vindman during Ranger School said he was a "Chow Thief", "Spotlighter", and was "Peered Out".

The position he held is one that is to support the President. Obama fired all the ambassadors the day after he became President and put in his own people. When my father worked for the government (worked directly under the Governor) even when his party was reelected they all had to submit letters of resignation leaving it to the Governor whether to accept or reject the resignation. It was almost a formality to emphasize that it's a newly elected administration even though for all practical purposes little would change.

Sounds like it came from the same web of bullshit that produced John Kerry swiftboat lies.

[jude2]

Apparently there was cheering when Vindman was led out of the White House, seems like everybody hated him.

The dems and media said he was a hero and deserved a metal.