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This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« on: February 10, 2020, 12:35:13 PM »
His name is Nakonechnyy Pavlo only 21 and lifting impressive weights

Keep in mind the plates on the bar are 55 pounds each as opposed to the 45 pound norm...



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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 12:38:08 PM »
His name is Nakonechnyy Pavlo only 21 and lifting impressive weights

Keep in mind the plates on the bar are 55 pounds each as opposed to the 45 pound norm...




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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 01:10:18 PM »
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and already full of injuries. Tore his bicep last i saw.

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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2020, 01:11:05 PM »



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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2020, 01:29:08 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2020, 01:41:20 PM »





I NEVER use a underhand grip for just this reason

Almost all bicep tears during deadlifts come from underhand grips. I only use overhand.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2020, 02:00:38 PM »

I NEVER use a underhand grip for just this reason

Almost all bicep tears during deadlifts come from underhand grips. I only use overhand.

Good advice, how often do you deadlift over 585?

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 04:11:36 PM »
Good advice, how often do you deadlift over 585?


 I am at 565 pounds... Can get three to five reps... I am happy with that

I did notice at times when i tried the underhand grip the first thing I felt was a strong pull in my biceps.

I don't feel that with the overhand grip
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2020, 07:29:08 PM »

 I am at 565 pounds... Can get three to five reps... I am happy with that

I did notice at times when i tried the underhand grip the first thing I felt was a strong pull in my biceps.

I don't feel that with the overhand grip

Nice that’s a good amount to pull. I’m also curious how much of a factor heavier weight is as opposed to grip. I’ve known people to tear biceps on preacher curls (with light weight) and on a yoke carry. When its time to go it goes there’s not much that can be done to prevent it, from what I am told.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2020, 09:13:45 PM »
Nice that’s a good amount to pull. I’m also curious how much of a factor heavier weight is as opposed to grip. I’ve known people to tear biceps on preacher curls (with light weight) and on a yoke carry. When its time to go it goes there’s not much that can be done to prevent it, from what I am told.


I can speak in regard to heavier weight, that the underhand grip in one hand and overhand grip in the other keeps the bar from wanting to roll out of one's hand like when only one grip is used.

There is a counter rotation effect on the bar with each hand having a differing grip, so based upon that a person theoretically could probably do a little more weight or more reps, since the feeling of the bar torquing/rolling/twisting in a under OR overhand grip, can make a person give into the weight because it feels like the bar is prying the hands open like a clam at a seafood restaurant.

As I approached the 500 pound mark and felt that tight pull on my biceps I said OH, NO!!!... the first thing I thought of was these WSM athletes who torn their biceps doing such movements as the ATLAS STONE (and this dead lift in this video) and did not want that to happen, so I went back to my overhand grip and straps and was fine.

So far as people tearing their biceps... or any muscle, at a relatively light weight.. I think that is due to neurological misfiring, where the neurotransmitter signal doesn't fire for enough muscle fibers at one time to engage and over-stresses those reacting fibers, which begin to tear across like Velcro, and rips across the muscle with a devastating end.

In the case of a tendon/ligament rupture I wonder if it is due to a nutritional/mineral deficiency due to all of the dieting/stress that over time results in weakened connective tissue?

I say that, because once these connective tissues begin tearing it seems that the tears continue all over the body like Dorian Yates, Branch Warren etc who eventually had to stop the heavy workouts because of the injuries.

More Collagen foods?, More Vitamin C, More rest?  Less steroids?.... Not sure, but some investigations are needed.

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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2020, 10:58:03 PM »
Nice that’s a good amount to pull. I’m also curious how much of a factor heavier weight is as opposed to grip. I’ve known people to tear biceps on preacher curls (with light weight) and on a yoke carry. When its time to go it goes there’s not much that can be done to prevent it, from what I am told.

Underhand grip on deadlift is certainly a major factor in tearing biceps weather your susceptible or not....

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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 01:23:47 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 01:34:11 AM »
You can lift badly with any weight.  When you strain something (I've never torn), there's always some misalignment occurring - something isn't quite right.  I routinely do *something* on my back doing heavy dips about once every 5-6 months.  It's always the same.  Very little warmup (foolish) of a few token reps as I pyramid up and then into a heavily weighted belt and a lot of straining - and something gets a bit wrong in the neck or upper back and ping, I spend the next 48 hours or so not being able to easily look one way or another  :)  It's really the only injury I ever suffer.  The "I didn't warm up" random bit on the back that hurts for a day or so.

I've quit reverse grip deadlifting.  Never enjoyed the asymmetry of it.  It's pretty obvious to me why it's more likely to cause issues.  Plenty of people do well with it, though.


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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2020, 01:35:53 AM »
Guys have been deadlifting for ages but it seems that all these bicep tears are fairly recent occurrences. It seems like it all started sometime in the 1990s. I've never heard of people getting bicep tears before then.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2020, 01:46:57 AM »
Guys have been deadlifting for ages but it seems that all these bicep tears are fairly recent occurrences. It seems like it all started sometime in the 1990s. I've never heard of people getting bicep tears before then.

Basile tore one doing 5 plates ish probably prior to that. 

Since then, he has been telling people to just not deadlift.

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2020, 02:22:51 AM »

I NEVER use a underhand grip for just this reason

Almost all bicep tears during deadlifts come from underhand grips. I only use overhand.

Best just to use a hook grip. A little awkward for the first few weeks but much better and safer once you're comfortable with it.

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Re: This Power Lifter Is Only 21???...Whaaaaaaat???
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2020, 05:54:05 PM »
Gear use is involved in the overwhelming percentage of muscle tears/catastrophic injuries.

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2020, 06:03:37 PM »
Fat fuck will be dead within 24 months.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2020, 06:47:26 PM »
Underhand grip on deadlift is certainly a major factor in tearing biceps weather your susceptible or not....

Thanks.

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2020, 12:53:45 AM »
Gear use is involved in the overwhelming percentage of muscle tears/catastrophic injuries.


Well it is a fact that gear makes the muscles strong/big, but does not do much for the connective tissue...

So you're right in that it can play a part in situations where the tendon or ligament tears away from the bone...
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