Actually what I'm saying is what I just wrote in that God created man and woman and was pleased.
So he "created" them perfect, they just went bad later...
Now, what you're asking is if God knew they would rebel why punish them?
No, I'm asking why would he create them with an, apparently, fatal flaw: the ability to sin.
Short answer: Because they rebelled.
Why allow them to do that?
God's foreknowledge isn't forceknowledge...
Right... your favorite trick. God's foreknowledge isn't really foreknowledge as we understand it. Just like how God's love isn't really love as we understanding it, and God's justice isn't really justice as we understand it, and so on and so forth for every
quality you choose to ascribe to God. You use a word, but the word means something other than its plain meaning. At which point why use it?
it doesn't dictate the choices made (we've discussed this previously).
Yes, we have discussed this previously, so I'll just only briefly remind you that you cannot
have inerrant foreknowledge of everything (which God, supposedly, has according to the Bible, to the point that he knew, from the beginning, who would be saved and who would not, after all is said is done) and freedom of choice at the same time.
They broke the only rule he gave them and suffered punishment because of that law breaking.
they'd break the rule, so what's the point in testing them?
Now, if a person is going to make a genuine choice to accept or reject God they can't have the deck stacked against them either way.
The deck is ALREADY
stack when you have original sin and, as you admit, humans have a proclivity to sin.
They need access to all potential choices and the ability to freely choose them. That's why he allowed Satan to tempt in them.
Just to be clear this "freedom of choice" that your God grants equates to: "I already know what you'll choose, but let's pretend you're choosing freely anyways. And remember, if you choose wrong you - and everyone after you - will suffer the consequences. Ready? Let's play... LIFE!"
And after, apparently, failing in this test, God goes on to punish his creations and their descendants and continues punishing them for centuries. And instead of simply stopping this punishment and saying "enough is enough with this craziness... I need to take a deep breath and talk to a shrink about my anger issues", he concocts a plan whereby he'll sacrificing himself to appease himself.
You have God righteously commanding them to choose not to sin and you have Satan unrighteously tempting them to sin and they chose to defy God, align with unrighteousness and were punished (because God also demands justice).
Justice you say? Where is the justice in your God punishing not just Adam and Eve, but the entire human race? Where is the justice in "Original Sin"?
That sinful act permanently stained/flawed their human physical form bringing decay and eventual death to Adam and Eve and all humanity that descended from them.
Yep, the sins of the parents are imposed on the children. Very just... we could learn a lot from God's divine justice.
The human body was now in perpetual state of decay and would die.
Even if it was, surely that's something God could fix. Shit, he breathed life into Adam and made Eve from a rib. You'd imagine he could fix this little problem with toenail clippings and some saliva or something.
Further their sinful act spiritually corrupted them giving them full knowledge of good and evil and a proclivity for sin (some define this as a sinful nature).....they were also spiritually dead in sin.
If people have a proclivity
for sin, then punishing them for sinning is like forcing them to play a game with loaded dice and make them liable for their losses. It's unjust and immoral.
It's not that people can't choose to do good (many of us do), but all will also choose to sin (in varying degrees of sin as well) and will be held accountable for that sin....
Holding people to a standard that is, by the standard-holder's own admission, impossible to live up to
and punishing those who fail to live up to it is unjust and immoral.
God prophetically professed in his foreknowledge that all have sinned. We all also know God's law both directly (via the scripture) and instinctively (via our consciences).
You conscience tells you not to eat shellfish?