TRENBOLONE... The Holy Grail???

[harmankardon1]

The mental effects of tren are the worst, I never had insomnia.

You get different in the head, maybe even slightly paranoid in an aggressive way... Hard to describe most I ran was 500 mgs tren ace a week, and no way I could tolerate more than that. 350 mgs wasn't that bad, 500 you start tripping. I don't know how the fuck someone like Dallas mccarver could run 2000mgs that's totally insane.....

 The gains are fantastic, far better than any other steroid out there.

[oldgolds]

Makes a lot of valid points. It also illustrates the insanity of bodybuilding. His voice is like chalk on a blackboard. After 5 minutes I wanted to put an ice pick in my eye.

The very essence  of the sport is drugs/phoniness...

[Van_Bilderass]

I doubt you could get a doctor to prescribe this high a dose. These folks are most likely buying their gear from unreliable sources. Who knows what they are actually getting?

All tren comes from the black market, hence there is always uncertainty. I have sampled maybe 20-30 underground labs tren over the years and all have been "real" though the exact dosage is a bit harder to know. But you can almost immediately tell if you are taking tren and not something else. So there is a lot of it around.

[Van_Bilderass]

The mental effects of tren are the worst, I never had insomnia.

You get different in the head, maybe even slightly paranoid in an aggressive way... Hard to describe most I ran was 500 mgs tren ace a week, and no way I could tolerate more than that. 350 mgs wasn't that bad, 500 you start tripping. I don't know how the fuck someone like Dallas mccarver could run 2000mgs that's totally insane.....

 The gains are fantastic, far better than any other steroid out there.

The mental effects are real. Sometimes they can feel kind of subtle and at other times they are really pronounced. A lot of times I thought "this is not worth it" yet I still continued on. Others have told me they feel like they can't stand to be in their bodies on the stuff 

[dj181]

people take 700mg to 1000mg  a week; of it and its insane - that is why... keep the doses sane

25mg to 50mg daily is sufficient for crazy good gains

I ran 30 mgs daily with good results

Then I dropped it down to 15 mgs daily and got nothing

I've run it as high as 70 mgs daily but 30.mgs is good enough ime

[mazrim]

Never had an issue with it (except probably internally) and everyone I know that do not go on internet forums haven't really had anything extraordinary in terms of its sides to speak about.

[oldtimer1]

So tren is a veterinarian steroid like Equipose and Winstrol V?. I think the later two are for horses and is tren for cattle? 

[tres_taco_combo]

like most PEDs its dose dependent...

greg takes a ton of gear for his size & age imho

[NarcissisticDeity]

Teh Chad on Tren " a harsh drug " " It could destroy your body " starts at 57:13

[Coach is Back!]

Depends on the person and doses. I didn’t use it until the last 8weeks at 50mg EOD. That was plenty. Got more aggressive, got the cough (right after injection) but nothing like you guys are describing. But the last 2 weeks prior to the show I upped it to 50mg ED along with Halo. Add in the Halo + Tren + Diet and I got set off pretty good

Won’t go back to Tren until 8 weeks out this time as well. None during the off-season

[Van_Bilderass]

Never had an issue with it (except probably internally) and everyone I know that do not go on internet forums haven't really had anything extraordinary in terms of its sides to speak about.

I hear what you're saying, expectations can definitely affect your perceived sides. But I still feel the mental effects are very real. I used some Negma Parabolan before I ever got on the internet and it triggered panic attacks from hell, and I never had them before the tren. I've gone on and off it many times and it always affects my mental state, mostly negatively. Then you have the guys who claim they aren't feeling any mental sides but others notice it. One longtime training partner recently tried tren for the first time and said he felt nothing from it, neither sides nor gains, only some fat loss. But he was acting like a total jackass and it was not just me who noticed it 

[dj181]

I hear what you're saying, expectations can definitely affect your perceived sides. But I still feel the mental effects are very real. I used some Negma Parabolan before I ever got on the internet and it triggered panic attacks from hell, and I never had them before the tren. I've gone on and off it many times and it always affects my mental state, mostly negatively. Then you have the guys who claim they aren't feeling any mental sides but others notice it. One longtime training partner recently tried tren for the first time and said he felt nothing from it, neither sides nor gains, only some fat loss. But he was acting like a total jackass and it was not just me who noticed it 

Did you run.the original parabolan 2 or 3 times a week?

Everyone seems to say that 3 times a week was the most anyone could handle, and most just ran it twice a week, 76 mgs per inject

[Van_Bilderass]

Did you run.the original parabolan 2 or 3 times a week?

Everyone seems to say that 3 times a week was the most anyone could handle, and most just ran it twice a week, 76 mgs per inject

I just took 1 per week for a short period of time. Had to stop due to the anxiety.

[Van_Bilderass]

Teh Chad on Tren " a harsh drug " " It could destroy your body " starts at 57:13

Watched a bit from the 57 mark and I'm not impressed.
He gets the question about whether noncompetitors should use gear. He says he's against it but then recommends prohormones. That's when I had to stop watching. Wtf Prohormones is pretty much a made up term in this context. What he's saying is don't use steroids but use these other steroids instead

Lots of balonie and misdirection in general. Like he only had 1 or 2 athletes who used Synthol against his advice. What a bunch of crap, basically all his pro clients used it. Balonie about insulin as well. Everyone that uses a lot of it gets fat, it stops working etc. All balonie - all his pro clients used a lot of it. It doesn't stop working. Yes, you can develop more resistance but it doesn't stop working like that. If 15iu did nothing for their BG level it means insulin is doing nothing and they would be dead within hours.

[sarcafago]

The mental effects of tren are the worst, I never had insomnia.

You get different in the head, maybe even slightly paranoid in an aggressive way... Hard to describe most I ran was 500 mgs tren ace a week, and no way I could tolerate more than that. 350 mgs wasn't that bad, 500 you start tripping. I don't know how the fuck someone like Dallas mccarver could run 2000mgs that's totally insane.....

 The gains are fantastic, far better than any other steroid out there.

I’ve ran over a gram a week and was an absolute madman.

[tres_taco_combo]

Even if I were into drugs out side of my 1/2 CC a week TRT dose, Tren would not be on the list.
Those sides sound insane. The insomnia alone, not thanks...

no need for it. if you are a weekend warrior, just take TRT and pepper in some anavar and you will be happy as can be

[harmankardon1]

I’ve ran over a gram a week and was an absolute madman.

 lol I dunno how you could handle that ... what were you experiencing sides wise at that dose?

[Van_Bilderass]

no need for it. if you are a weekend warrior, just take TRT and pepper in some anavar and you will be happy as can be

I'm trying to get ahold of some trestolone/MENT. I want to know if the hype is real and if it agrees with me. Maybe see if it could function as a Super-HRT at maybe 10-20mg test with 5-10 trest per day. Who here has taken it?

[sarcafago]

lol I dunno how you could handle that ... what were you experiencing sides wise at that dose?

The usual. Night sweats, aggression, paranoia, it really did a number on my mental health. I’ve used it off and on for well over a decade. Ended a lot of relationships and have been questioned by the police on at least three occasions. It was worth it though. 

[illuminati]

All tren comes from the black market, hence there is always uncertainty. I have sampled maybe 20-30 underground labs tren over the years and all have been "real" though the exact dosage is a bit harder to know. But you can almost immediately tell if you are taking tren and not something else. So there is a lot of it around.

Parabolan - Negma 76mg 1.5ml
I’d sure like to see anyone try take 10ml of that a week
Let alone 20ml for 1420mg a week - See How that would work out.

[illuminati]

I'm trying to get ahold of some trestolone/MENT. I want to know if the hype is real and if it agrees with me. Maybe see if it could function as a Super-HRT at maybe 10-20mg test with 5-10 trest per day. Who here has taken it?

Just started using it about a month ago.
Very Good.

[Van_Bilderass]

Parabolan - Negma 76mg 1.5ml
I’d sure like to see anyone try take 10ml of that a week
Let alone 20ml for 1420mg a week - See How that would work out.

Do you feel the Negma was extra special in some way? Sure it hit me hard but I was a teen noob. I could handle the Alpha Pharma Para copy and other UG Hex at high dose. Many feel some old legendary steroids had a special magic to them but don't take into account that they were younger and more sensitive to steroids back then.

[illuminati]

Do you feel the Negma was extra special in some way? Sure it hit me hard but I was a teen noob. I could handle the Alpha Pharma Para copy and other UG Hex at high dose. Many feel some old legendary steroids had a special magic to them but don't take into account that they were younger and more sensitive to steroids back then.

I was in my late 20’s and my training Partner at that time was 10 yrs older and a Mr Britain / Europe / Universe Winner So hardly youngsters or Newbies & we had fantastic gains all round on 1 Every 4/5 days.
Dorian even spoke about not going above 3 shots a week as it was to much for him.

We never got any Tren cough Either.

I know for certain neither I or my training partner would’ve or could’ve handled 10 shots a week. 🙄
Let alone 20+ !!!
Also there was Zero Need to Try.

I firmly believe these insane amounts being used are because the quality & potency of UG is Largely Crap.
I mean 50mg anavar & Stromba tabs 🙄 the originals were 2.5 & 2 milligrams each.

[harmankardon1]

I was in my late 20’s and my training Partner at that time was 10 yrs older and a Mr Britain / Europe / Universe Winner So hardly youngsters or Newbies & we had fantastic gains all round on 1 Every 4/5 days.
Dorian even spoke about not going above 3 shots a week as it was to much for him.

We never got any Tren cough Either.

I know for certain neither I or my training partner would’ve or could’ve handled 10 shots a week. 🙄
Let alone 20+ !!!
Also there was Zero Need to Try.

I firmly believe these insane amounts being used are because the quality & potency of UG is Largely Crap.
I mean 50mg anavar & Stromba tabs 🙄 the originals were 2.5 & 2 milligrams each.

100% agree^

All the ugl shit is way under dosed....

That's why everybody's running grams and grams, these days compared to old, really they're not....

[Van_Bilderass]

I was in my late 20’s and my training Partner at that time was 10 yrs older and a Mr Britain / Europe / Universe Winner So hardly youngsters or Newbies & we had fantastic gains all round on 1 Every 4/5 days.
Dorian even spoke about not going above 3 shots a week as it was to much for him.

We never got any Tren cough Either.

I know for certain neither I or my training partner would’ve or could’ve handled 10 shots a week. 🙄
Let alone 20+ !!!
Also there was Zero Need to Try.

I firmly believe these insane amounts being used are because the quality & potency of UG is Largely Crap.
I mean 50mg anavar & Stromba tabs 🙄 the originals were 2.5 & 2 milligrams each.

I used a ton of legit Zambon 2mg tabs as well as the injects and I thought it sucked, didn't really get anything out of it. It's not that the gear was bad, it was quality, but stanozolol was just a weak drug for me. I've personally had fantastic results with some UG drugs when compared with the pharma equivalent - and often it seemed like the UGL was better. For example Anapolon/Androlic/Oxybolone compared to some Chinese UGL drol. Same with the testosterones, Decas and what have you. The problem with UGLs is that there is no assurance they are always correctly dosed but there are very real drugs on the UGL black market.

That Dorian says he wouldn't have been able to handle more than 225mg of tren a week doesn't mean there is no "real" tren made in Chinese labs, or that the Negma Para was somehow many times more potent. UGL tren can be rough going too as anyone who has used it knows.